Roger Smith Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 After a rather wild ride in January, it's time for your entries for February, and please note that we now have three new stations, Chicago (ORD) Atlanta (ATL) and Houston (IAH) in addition to our traditional three eastern locations, DCA, NYC and BOS. The information in this post is mainly for new contestants as I expect most of the "regulars" are aware of the rules. For them, only this next part is probably worth a glance ... please submit your entries in the contest order and note for your convenience, any list of six forecasts across the page or down the page will be accepted without station identifiers if you want, and here's a template you could copy and convert to numbers: DCA ... NYC ... BOS ... ... ORD ... ATL ... IAH If you prefer to list them down the page, that's just as good (but slightly more work for me in making up a table of entries). For new entrants (and one or two not so new) please note three things, contest order is important in avoiding scoring mistakes (thanks in advance) but I do make the effort to spot any scrambled order of forecasts. We are predicting anomalies (relative to 1981-2010 normals) and not actuals. Your entries should have one decimal and use the number zero for fractional anomalies (e.g., +0.2 rather than .2). Once again, I make the effort to decode every entry, but you'll see how much clearer the +0.2 version is. And third, I am recommending that people use a double minus that will look like this -- and not like that -. That's just because the font most people use here is rather small and I have "senior vision." Late penalties After a lenient start, I have proposed (without hearing any objections) to enforce the late penalty without exceptions in 2013, no matter what day of the week the first of the month falls, or holidays etc, and basically the only exception would be if (let's hope not) another event like Sandy delays entries due to emergency conditions. Then I would extend the deadline up to three days. Otherwise, I think it's fair to have a strict deadline policy, so that advantages gained by late entry are more than offset by penalties. And what is the penalty, you may ask? The same as last year, I think, one percent deduction per late hour per forecast made. Example, you're 17 hours late, then your six forecasts are scored off 83 rather than 100. There will be a five minute grace period for all penalties, timed by my forum time stamp (I have reset to eastern time just for this). That means you really have until 00:05 Feb 1st to enter without penalty and each hour or fraction after that counts (so your entry at 2:19 a.m. on the first is a 3% penalty, etc). Regardless of penalty and raw score, any score calculated to be below zero (negative) will be zero in the scoring table. Scoring rules The table of entries is created at the end of day four of each month (after which forecasts are not accepted mostly because they are already scoring zero anyway due to 96 hours of lateness). With the table of entries will be a notice of deadline for entrants to confirm their entries, changes will only be allowed on a good faith basis that the error is mine and not due to late editing. After that deadline (about the 7th) the table of forecasts is the official log of entries regardless of what may appear in your post (this prevents anyone from considering late editing and protects the field). When actual values are in the range --5.0 to +5.0 scoring is simply a 2-pt deduction (from a base of 100 minus any late penalty) per 0.1 degree error. When actual values are outside that range, an expanded scoring range comes into play, and it is summarized in this table (examples, other cases can be worked out from these guidelines): ADJUSTED SCORING TABLE FOR LARGE ANOMALIES _______________________________ examples are positive but same applies to large negative anomalies Actual ............. A (1-pt) ...... B zone (2 pt diff) ..... C zone (1-pt) ..... D zone (2-pt diff) ... E zone (1-pt) ___________________________________________________________________________________________ 5.5 ...................0.1 .. 0.5 ......... 0.6 ... 5.0 .......... 5.1 .. .. 6.0 ....... 6.1 .. 10.5 ........... 10.6 ... 11.0 5.8 ..................0.1 .. 0.8 ..........0.9 ... 5.0 ............5.1 .. .. 6.6 ....... 6.7 .. 10.8 ............ 10.9 ... 11.6 6.0 ..................0.1 .. 1.0 ......... 1.1 ... 5.0 ........... 5.1 .. .. 7.0 ........ 7.1 .. 11.0 ........... 11.1 ... 12.0 6.5 ..................0.1 .. 1.5 ......... 1.6 .. 5.0 ........... 5.1 .. .. 8.0 ......... 8.1 .. 11.5 ........... 11.6 ... 13.0 7.0 ..................0.1 .. 2.0 .......... 2.1 .. 5.0 ........... 5.1 .. .. 9.0 ..........9.1 .. 12.0 ........... 12.1 ... 14.0 8.0 .................0.1 .. 3.0 ........... 3.1 .. 5.0 ........... 5.1 .. 11.0 .........11.1 .. 13.0 ........... 13.1 ... 16.0 9.0 .................0.1 .. 4.0 ........... 4.1 .. 5.0 ............ 5.1 .. 13.0 .........13.1 .. 14.0 ....... ... 14.1 ... 18.0 10.0 .............. 0.1 ... 20.0 (all 1-pt) 11.0 ............. 1.1 ... 21.0 (all 1-pt) etc Once again these scores are applied to a base of 100 minus penalty points. ---------- Once again, where scoring penalties are greater than 100 the score is not negative but zero. This scoring method gives you the opportunity to check your scores against my calculations. Under the rules of official entries, you may request a scoring review at any time during the year ahead on any score you believe requires correction. The table of entries in the relevant thread remains the source of the official entry to be reviewed. Contest results I hope to score the monthly contests in a timely fashion and report the results within 2-3 days of end of each month, the NWS provisional CF6 reports are the source of our verification numbers and these are often reported on an ongoing basis in threads to keep you informed (most of you probably look at the source for that anyway). The contest winner is the person with the highest accumulated score for all six sites regardless of how many forecasts they submit. There will also be contest categories for the "classic" three stations of DCA/NYC/BOS and for the "expanded" trio of new stations we are predicting (ORD/ATL/IAH). If I get even more energetic I will announce winners for each of the six stations at the end of the year. The contest year has already started with the January contest. Well, now that the rules are set out one time, we won't have to see them again so remember where they were posted (think Groundhog Day). Good luck and have fun !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkviking Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 DCA ... NYC ... BOS ... ... ORD ... ATL ... IAH +2.2 ... +1.2 .... +0.8 ... ... -1.9. ... +2.0 ... +1.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 DCA ... NYC ... BOS ... ... ORD ... ATL ... IAH -0.3 -0.9 -1.6 -0.8 +0.3 +1.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 DCA ... NYC ... BOS ... ... ORD ... ATL ... IAH +1.3 +1.1 +0.8 -1.1 +1.1 +0.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brad1551 Posted January 27, 2013 Share Posted January 27, 2013 1.DCA...2.NYC...3ORD..4.ATL...5.IAH....6.BOS +0.6. -1.0. +0.9 +1.0 +0.9. -1.1 I had to edit but did not change my orgianal temps just had to add one more which was BOS. I only had 5 and needed 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Lightning Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 DCA ... NYC ... BOS ... ... ORD ... ATL ... IAH +1.2 +1.0 +0.9 -1.4 +1.2 I don't care (seriously though +0.7) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdude64 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 DCA...NYC...BOS...ORD...ATL...IAH +0.4 +0.4 +0.5 +0.2 +2.1 +1.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quixotic1 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 DCA...NYC....BOS....ORD...ATL....IAH +2.3. +2.0. + 2.5. +0.0. + 3.2. +2.9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 I foresee vast warmth later so +3.8 ... +3.6 ... +3.3 ... ... +4.4 ... +4.7 ... +5.0 thanks for using the template folks (next poster should look at previous post to mine) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 DCA ... NYC ... BOS ... ... ORD ... ATL ... IAH +3.3.....+2.5.....+3.0.....+2.7.....+2.1.....+2.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 DCA ... NYC ... BOS ... ... ORD ... ATL ... IAH +3.1 ... +2.6 ... +2.3 ... ... +3.4 ... +3.3 ... +3.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 DCA ... NYC ... BOS ... ORD ... ATL ... IAH +2.4 +2.3 +1.9 +1.1 +2.1 +1.9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inudaw Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 DCA ... NYC ... BOS ... ... ORD ... ATL ... IAH +3.1.....+2.4.....+2.8.....+1.8.....+4.2.....+1.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongIslandWx Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 DCA...NYC....BOS....ORD...ATL....IAH +1.5...+1.0....+0.3....-0.2....+3.0....+2.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 DCA ... NYC ... BOS ... ... ORD ... ATL ... IAH +1.1 ... +0.5 ... +0.5 ... ... +3.0... +1.5 ... +1.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 DCA... NYC... BOS... ORD... ATL... IAH +2.2... +1.1... +0.4... +1.2... +2.1... +1.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 DCA...NYC....BOS....ORD...ATL....IAH +1.4 +1.2 +1.5 +2.6 +2.4 +2.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 DCA ... NYC ... BOS ... ... ORD ... ATL ... IAH +2.4 ... +2.2 ... +2.0 ... ... +3.0... +2.5 ... +1.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekZ Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 DCA ... NYC ... BOS ... ... ORD ... ATL ... IAH +4.4 ... +3.9 ... +3.8 ... ... +4.6... +3.6 ... +1.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QVectorman Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 DCA ... NYC ... BOS ... ... ORD ... ATL ... IAH +1.8 ... +3.6 ... +3.7 ... ... +.8... -2.2 ... -4.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skierinvermont Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 DCA: +1.5 NYC: +1.5 BOS: +1.5 ORD: -1.5 ATL: +2.5 IAH: -1 +1.5 ... +1.5... +1.5... -1.5... +2.5... -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 DCA ... NYC ... BOS ... ... ORD ... ATL ... IAH +0.3°... -0.3° ... -0.5° ... ... -0.5° ... +1.5°... +2.0° Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudsonvalley21 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 DCA ... NYC ... BOS ... ... ORD ... ATL ... IAH +0.4 ... +0.3 ... +1.3 ... ... +2.1 ... +1.8 ... +1.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallow Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 DCA ... NYC ... BOS ... ... ORD ... ATL ... IAH +2.3 ... +2.0 ... +2.4 ... ... +2.9 ... +3.3 ... +2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 +1.5 +1.3 +.8 new stations -.5 +1.5 + -2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 DCA...NYC...BOS... ...ORD...ATL...IAH +3.2...+2.8...+2.2... ...+4.4...+3.4...+2.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlo Snow Maker Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 DCA ... NYC ... BOS ... ... ORD ... ATL ... IAH +2.8 ... +2.1 ... +2.2 ... ... +1.0 ... +1.9 ... +1.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyS Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 DCA ... NYC ... BOS ... ... ORD ... ATL ... IAH +0.9 ...+1.5 ...+1.0 ... ...+2.1 ...+2.9 ...+1.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 DCA...NYC....BOS....ORD...ATL....IAH +.8 +1.1 +.5 +0.6 +1.5 +1.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazess556 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 DCA ... NYC ... BOS ... ... ORD ... ATL ... IAH+3.4 ... +2.9 ... +2.6 ... ... +3.2 ... +3.0 ... +2.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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