Geos Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Rumbling here, but no lightning yet. This is going to be one cold t-storm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Very cold rain around here... seems weird to be hearing rain on the roof this time of the year...at midnite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 PRELIMINARY LOCAL STORM REPORT NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE IL 1217 AM CST TUE JAN 29 2013 .TIME... ...EVENT... ...CITY LOCATION... ...LAT.LON .DATE... ....MAG.... ..COUNTY LOCATION..ST.. ...SOURCE. ..REMARKS.. 1150 PM HAIL CHESTERTON 41.60N 87.06W 01/28/2013 M1.00 INCH PORTER IN TRAINED SPOTTER HAIL LASTED 5 MINUTES AND COMPLETELY COVERED THE GROUND. MOSTLY PEA SIZE HAIL BUT SOME BIGGER ONES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 30% wind and 5% tor probs in S IL/SW IN on the 6z outlook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 30% wind and 5% tor probs in S IL/SW IN on the 6z outlook. Looking at the 4km SPC WRF, I think we might see these probabilities extended Northward some, especially considering how far North the warm front already is at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Looking at the 4km SPC WRF, I think we might see these probabilities extended Northward some, especially considering how far North the warm front already is at this point. Maybe...observational trends during the day will be important as usual. Can't really fault SPC for handling the 6z outlook the way they did given the setup with a dash of January severe climatology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Road Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Looking at the 4km SPC WRF, I think we might see these probabilities extended Northward some, especially considering how far North the warm front already is at this point. Has some quasi-discrete convection coming out of SE IL towards central IN 18z-22z out ahead of the real deal. That has my interest now, since we're at least *considering* a day chase tomorrow. (I seriously doubt we actually will, but there's a 7 am meeting anyway.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Pretty solid forecast max hourly updraft helicities over northwest and west central IL by late afternoon (http://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/mpyle/spcprod/00/): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Pretty solid forecast max hourly updraft helicities over northwest and west central IL by late afternoon (http://www.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/mmb/mpyle/spcprod/00/): Personally I expect the risk area to be extended to Chicago/Northern IN and maybe into SW MI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 any hail threat.. that's the only thing interesting about severe wx to me. I've never seen anything larger than pea size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherPimp Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I'd bet my paycheck that the severe weather with this storm is an over performer! Just way to much coming together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Personally I expect the risk area to be extended to Chicago/Northern IN and maybe into SW MI Wouldn't be surprised. We'll see how the mesoscale details shake out during the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I'd bet my paycheck that the severe weather with this storm is an over performer! Just way to much coming together. 61/59 at Lincoln, IL at 1am. Unreal for late January. I think the question up this way is instability ( though the presence of a May air mass overnight south of the warm front may argue that instability will be there), but if there's enough and it's at the lower levels, the wind fields are off the charts. Could make for a very interesting day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I'd bet my paycheck that the severe weather with this storm is an over performer! Just way to much coming together. Yeah I really am liking this region and especially to the South Also there is a MCD out for KS/MO and storms are lighting up between KC and Springfield already. MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 0065 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1251 AM CST TUE JAN 29 2013 AREAS AFFECTED...ERN KS INTO WRN AND CNTRL MO CONCERNING...SEVERE POTENTIAL...WATCH POSSIBLE VALID 290651Z - 290815Z PROBABILITY OF WATCH ISSUANCE...60 PERCENT SUMMARY...THE POTENTIAL FOR SEVERE STORMS CAPABLE OF DAMAGING WINDS AND A FEW TORNADOES MAY INCREASE EARLY THIS MORNING. CONVECTIVE TRENDS ARE BEING MONITORED FOR A POSSIBLE WATCH. DISCUSSION...LATEST TRENDS IN REGIONAL RADAR AND LIGHTNING DATA INDICATE AN INCREASE IN TSTM ACTIVITY FROM JUST N OF TOP SWD TO NEAR CNU WITH ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT FARTHER TO THE NORTHEAST /S OF IRK/. THESE STORMS ARE FORMING IN THE OPEN WARM SECTOR...PERHAPS ALONG A ZONE OF ENHANCED WAA/ISENTROPIC ASCENT ATTENDANT TO A 50-60 KT SWLY LLJ. MODIFICATION OF 00Z TOP/LMN SOUNDINGS FOR CURRENT SURFACE CONDITIONS INDICATES ONLY WEAK CONVECTIVE INHIBITION WITH MLCAPE VALUES OF AROUND 700 J/KG. IT REMAINS UNCERTAIN WHETHER THE DEVELOPING STORMS WILL BECOME FIRMLY ROOTED IN THE BOUNDARY LAYER...WHICH WOULD SIGNAL A HEIGHTENED SEVERE WEATHER THREAT. SHOULD THIS SCENARIO UNFOLD...CURRENT VAD DATA FROM TULSA OK NWD THROUGH SPRINGFIELD AND KANSAS CITY MO INDICATE LARGE...CLOCKWISE-CURVED HODOGRAPHS WHICH WOULD SUPPORT A SUPERCELL TORNADO THREAT. CONVECTIVE TRENDS ARE CLOSELY BEING MONITORED FOR ANY FURTHER INCREASE IN STORM INTENSITY WHICH WOULD PROMPT THE NECESSITY OF A WATCH. ..MEAD.. 01/29/2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Yeah I really am liking this region and especially to the South Also there is a MCD out for KS/MO and storms are lighting up between KC and Springfield already. Pretty standard late January tornado watch into northern MO. This is much more interesting than our upcoming snowpack eraser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 61/59 at Lincoln, IL at 1am. Unreal for late January. I think the question up this way is instability ( though the presence of a May air mass overnight south of the warm front may argue that instability will be there), but if there's enough and it's at the lower levels, the wind fields are off the charts. Could make for a very interesting day. Here's what I posted in the other thread earlier... "FWIW...It should be noted that the 1959J/KG of SB CAPE of the OUN sounding is approx 750-1000 J/KG higher than the 12z NAM showed for 0z, and the GFS was off by over 1000J/KG. LZK was also higher, by about 500J/KG. Meso analysis was way off for most of the area too. Obviously just two locations and just talking SB CAPE, but yea." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Seriously though, I am a little surprised that 0-3 km CAPEs in the MCD are as high as they are. Large area of 100 J/kg, in an environment of 500 m2/s2 effective SRH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalKid Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Just as an FYI for tomorrow.. all the emergency sirens for Frankfort, KY are down. They malfunctioned last week and are currently out of commission.... so if you have a weather radio in the Frankfort area, make sure and alert your friends and relatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouWX Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 SPC keeps adjusting this SLGT eastward but I still think they are late to the party on this one. I'd have a MDT along the OH River for significant wind damage threat if it were me... I guess they are waiting to watch the evolution of the QLCS that all models are developing. UofILL WRF reflectivity fields are very impressive/concerning late tonight in IN IL and KY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokomoWX Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 DAY 1 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 0650 AM CST TUE JAN 29 2013 VALID 291300Z - 301200Z ...THERE IS A MDT RISK OF SVR TSTMS THIS EVENING INTO TONIGHT FOR MUCH OF AR...FAR NERN TX...FAR NRN LA...WEST CENTRAL AND NW MS...FAR SWRN TN AND PART OF SERN MO... ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS SURROUNDING THE MDT RISK FROM THE SRN PLAINS TO CENTRAL GULF COAST STATES AND NNEWD INTO THE MID MS AND LOWER OH VALLEYS... ..SYNOPSIS A DEEP LONGWAVE TROUGH...CURRENTLY CENTERED OVER THE ROCKIES INTO NRN MEXICO PER WATER VAPOR IMAGERY...WILL CONTINUE TO SHIFT E TOWARD THE PLAINS STATES THIS FORECAST PERIOD. A STRONG SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL EJECT NEWD FROM THE BASE OF THE LONGWAVE TROUGH THROUGH THE SRN PLAINS...REACHING THE LOWER MO/MID MS VALLEYS LATER TONIGHT/EARLY WED MORNING. A STRONG 90-100 KT SWLY MIDLEVEL JET WILL ACCOMPANY THE LEAD SHORTWAVE TROUGH. FURTHER STRENGTHENING OF THIS SWLY WIND FIELD IS EXPECTED DURING THE SECOND HALF OF THE PERIOD FROM CENTRAL TX THROUGH AR TO THE LOWER OH VALLEY. THIS WILL OCCUR AS A STRONG UPSTREAM JET OVER THE PACIFIC NW TO GREAT BASIN TRANSLATES THROUGH THE BASE OF THE PARENT LONGWAVE TROUGH AND EMERGES ACROSS TX TO THE LOWER OH VALLEY THIS EVENING AND TONIGHT. EARLY MORNING SURFACE ANALYSIS SHOWED A SYNOPTIC LOW CENTERED OVER IA WITH A POLAR FRONT EXTENDING SSWWD THROUGH FAR NWRN MO...ERN KS TO NWRN OK...AND THEN WWD THROUGH THE OK PANHANDLE TO AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IN SERN CO. A WARM FRONT EXTENDED EWD FROM IA ALONG THE IL/WI BORDER TO N OF CHICAGO INTO FAR NRN OH. MEANWHILE...A DRY LINE EXTENDED SWD ACROSS FAR WRN OK TO THE TX BIG BEND REGION TO THE NW OF DRT...WITH A PACIFIC COLD FRONT EXTENDING SWD THROUGH THE TX PANHANDLE AND W TO SW TX. PRIOR THE PACIFIC NW/GREAT BASIN JET EMERGING ENE OF THE SWRN STATES...THE POLAR FRONT AND DRY LINE WILL MOVE SLOWLY EWD...WHILE THE WARM FRONT MOVES NWD THROUGH SERN WI AND LOWER MI. BY THIS EVENING...THE PACIFIC FRONT WILL OVERTAKE THE DRY LINE AND ADVANCE MORE QUICKLY EWD...CONCURRENT WITH THE ADVANCEMENT OF THE POLAR FRONT. BY 12Z WED...A SYNOPTIC LOW SHOULD BE LOCATED OVER LOWER MI WITH COLD FRONT EXTENDING SSWWD THROUGH INDIANA TO MIDDLE TN...MS...SERN LA TO THE WRN GULF. ...SRN PLAINS TO CENTRAL GULF COAST STATES TO MID MS AND LOWER OH VALLEYS... A MOIST AIR MASS ALREADY IN PLACE ACROSS THE SRN PLAINS IS SUPPORTING AN INCREASINGLY UNSTABLE ENVIRONMENT WITH MLCAPE UP TO 1000 J/KG EXTENDING FROM NORTH TX INTO CENTRAL OK...ALONG AND EAST OF THE DRY LINE. STRONG HEIGHT FALLS SPREADING EWD WITH THE LONGWAVE TROUGH AND LEAD SHORTWAVE TROUGH MOVING ENEWD THROUGH THE SRN HIGH PLAINS HAS SUPPORTED THE ONSET OF STRONG TO SEVERE ORGANIZED STORMS PRIOR TO THE START OF DAY 1 OVER WRN OK. THIS INCREASE IN DEEP LAYER ASCENT IS ALSO EVIDENT FARTHER TO THE NORTHEAST JUST AHEAD OF THE POLAR FRONT IN NRN OK TO SERN KS AND SWRN MO WHERE STORMS HAVE BEEN INCREASING IN COVERAGE AND INTENSITY SINCE 10-11Z. THE TORNADO AND DAMAGING WIND PROBABILITIES AND SLIGHT RISK AREA HAVE BEEN EXTENDED WWD TO INCLUDE MORE OF NORTHWEST TX...WRN AND NRN OK INTO ERN KS. THIS CHANGE IS DUE TO THE ONGOING STRONG TO SEVERE STORMS AND THE LIKELIHOOD FOR ADDITIONAL ACTIVITY WITH SWD AND NEWD EXTENT ALONG THE DRY LINE AND POLAR FRONT...RESPECTIVELY. STRONG-EXTREME HEIGHT FALLS SPREADING FROM THE SRN/CENTRAL PLAINS TO THE MS RIVER VALLEY TODAY/TONIGHT WILL RESULT IN A RELATIVELY BROAD SSWLY LLJ UNDERGOING STRENGTHENING AS IT SHIFTS ENEWD AHEAD OF THE POLAR FRONT/DRY LINE. THIS WILL ALLOW MOISTURE TO SPREAD FAIRLY FAR N FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR...WITH SURFACE DEWPOINTS IN THE UPPER 50S TO NEAR 60 F REACHING NRN IL AND INDIANA. FARTHER S...MID 60S DEWPOINTS WILL SPREAD INTO SERN OK...CENTRAL AR TO WRN TN THIS AFTERNOON THROUGH TONIGHT. MODEST MIDLEVEL LAPSE RATES WITH NWD EXTENT WILL TEND TO LIMIT THE DEVELOPMENT OF STRONGER INSTABILITY...ESPECIALLY INTO THE LOWER MO AND MID MS VALLEYS. MODIFIED FORECAST SOUNDINGS INTO NRN IL SUGGEST THE POTENTIAL FOR MUCAPE AROUND 400 J/KG THIS AFTERNOON. FARTHER S...MIDLEVEL LAPSE RATES CLOSER TO 8 C/KM PER 12Z SOUNDING AT FORT WORTH TEXAS IS SUPPORTING THE AFOREMENTIONED MUCAPE TO AROUND 1000 J/KG EXTENDING INTO CENTRAL OK. SIMILAR MUCAPE VALUES ARE EXPECTED INTO NERN TX/SERN OK TO SRN AR WHERE GREATER MOISTURE IS FORECAST THIS AFTERNOON AND EVENING. STRENGTHENING DEEP LAYER WIND FIELDS WITH EFFECTIVE BULK SHEAR EXCEEDING 50 KT AS FAR N AS THE LOWER MO TO LOWER OH VALLEYS AND SHEAR VECTORS ORIENTED NEARLY PARALLEL TO THE POLAR FRONT AND DRY LINE SUGGEST PRIMARILY A LINEAR STORM MODE. HOWEVER...GIVEN THE STRENGTH OF THE BULK SHEAR AND INCREASING LOW LEVEL HODOGRAPH CURVATURE...TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE IN ADDITION TO DAMAGING WINDS. MODELS CONTINUE TO INDICATE A STRONG INCREASE IN DEEP LAYER WINDS AS THE UPSTREAM PACIFIC NW/GREAT BASIN JET ADVANCES INTO THE SRN EXTENT OF THE OUTLOOK AREA INCLUDING THE MODERATE RISK. THIS WILL FURTHER INCREASE LOW LEVEL SHEAR/HODOGRAPH CURVATURE FOR AN ENHANCED THREAT FOR STRONGER TORNADOES INCLUDING THE METRO AREAS OF LITTLE ROCK AND MEMPHIS AFTER DARK THIS EVENING/TONIGHT. GIVEN THE STRENGTHENING DEEP LAYER SSWLY WINDS TONIGHT ACROSS A MODESTLY UNSTABLE WARM SECTOR...MODELS CONTINUE TO ADVERTISE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A WELL DEFINED QLCS ADVANCING E OF THE MID-LOWER MS RIVER. THIS SCENARIO IS ALSO SUPPORTED BY THE 00Z 4KM WRF-NSSL SUGGESTING THE QLCS WITH A THREAT FOR DAMAGING WINDS AND A FEW TORNADOES REACHES PARTS OF THE LOWER OH VALLEY TO CENTRAL GULF COAST STATES. THUS...THE SLIGHT RISK AND SEVERE WIND AND TORNADO PROBABILITIES HAVE BEEN EXTENDED EWD SOME WITH THIS OUTLOOK ISSUANCE. THE SLIGHT RISK HAS ALSO BEEN EXTENDED NWD TO INCLUDE THE REST OF NRN IL TO ACCOUNT FOR A THREAT FOR DAMAGING WINDS AND EVEN A TORNADO THREAT...GIVEN THE PRESENCE OF FAVORABLE DEEP LAYER AND LOW LEVEL SHEAR...DESPITE WEAKER INSTABILITY THIS AFTERNOON. ..PETERS/ROGERS.. 01/29/2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indystorm Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Well, Alek gets in the game after all with slight risk extended north to the WI line and pulled ne into IN from Gary se to Richmond and Lawrenceburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Well, Alek gets in the game after all with slight risk extended north to the WI line and pulled ne into IN from Gary se to Richmond and Lawrenceburg. Gino did a morning update...looks like a quite a few rain free hours, if we pop some sunshine (and I think we do) it could get interesting. HRRR developes up to 500 sbcape over western illinois but only gets surface temps to near 60 (ORD is already 60) RAP developes similar instability values over western/northern Illinois and also looks a little cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 early visible shot showing some breaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 HRRR FWIW shows a broken line of decent convection along the Mississippi this afternoon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 RAP with a pocket of 750+ sbcape in the vicinity of our last January tornado event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamps10 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Moderate risk just got expanded NE to include Southern Illinois, SW Indiana, Western Kentucky, pretty much along and south of I-64 west of US 231, mainly for straight line winds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Growing concern for the Ohio Valley overnight. Amount of buoyancy continues to remain in question but the forcing/shear could compensate and maintain a healthy severe threat well into the overnight hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 RAP showing a more widespread area of 60+ DP's into central and northern IL by this afternoon, along with temps in the mid 60's. Still showing an area of 750J/KG of CAPE too. There is an expanding area of clearing in C. IL, so we'll see if it has the right idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 LOT with a nice updated mesoscale discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 The cells between Peoria and Macomb continue to organize and intensify. These will have to be watched as they head into north-central IL, where there's been some sun this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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