am19psu Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Just looking for trends it has proven useful occasionally. I was also posting for those on their mobile phones. Oh, I've got no problem with you posting it. I just never consider it when I am putting together a forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radders Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 36hr H5 depiction on GFS is very similar to the 12Z Euro at 48.. I am encouraged so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Thus far the PAC NW s/w is slightly more amplified on the 00z GFS compared to the 18z run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_AR_ Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 K sorry but I am confused, isn't the RGEM equivalent to the GGEM? RGEM is Regional (like the NAM) GGEM is Global (like the GFS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 continuing more amplification than 18z gfs at hr 39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Analog96 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 No offense to anyone, but why do you guys look at the RGEM? IMO, it is the worst, by far, of the models regularly posted here (except the JMA/KMA, which are Ji specials) LOL I was wondering that too. The RGEM is the poor half of the Canadian models to a sense, and the GGEM is not even that good, so when you consider that, the RGEM is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 continuing more amplification than 18z gfs at hr 39 Heights are lower in the central Plains w/ a slightly deeper trough as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridingtime Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 LOL I was wondering that too. The RGEM is the poor half of the Canadian models to a sense, and the GGEM is not even that good, so when you consider that, the RGEM is awful. K gotcha, thanks for the clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVblizzard Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Deeper trough, more ridging ahead of the storm, more PV interaction at 42. I'm comparing this to 12z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isnice Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 continuing more amplification than 18z gfs at hr 39 that doesn't say much...compare it to the 12z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 based on h5, at hr 48 this should be well west of 18z gfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 strong piece of energy racing southeastward across central mousori at 48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermeh Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 looks slightly better at 42 compared to 12z at 54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 looks slightly better at 42 compared to 12z at 54 you want to compare it to hr 60, hr 54 would be for 18z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermeh Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 you want to compare it to hr 60, hr 54 would be for 18z i edited my post. I put the wrong frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Heights seem to be a bit higher in the Northeast w/ the 00z GFS valid 18z sat compared to 12z GFS valid 18z sat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Here comes a major hit for SNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridingtime Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Not to much of a fan of this ridge axis when compared to the 12z, but at least its better than 18z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermeh Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Here she comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 it's a much weaker solution with an open wave. There isn't good upper divergence on the lee side of the trof to foster good pressure falls at the surface. It seems to be responding more to a void in the wind pattern further south east and trying produce low pressure way off the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am19psu Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 The QPF is going to come in very similar to 12z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 at 69, it's basically a miss... just a couple of hundreths of an inch, it appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 not a very strong system considering the Euro was bombs away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am19psu Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 H5 is good again. Surface reflection is bad, again. Look at all the vort maxima over the Atlantic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Again 50 - 100 miles means all the difference. Very close to 12z and hopefully the gfs eastward tendency in play here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tornadojay Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I think the models might be responding to that shortwave that passes through Florida at the same time the main wave comes through the mid atlantic. I'm wondering if that is causing the elongation of low pressure off the atlantic coast.. Thoughts, anyone??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zir0b Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 obvious convective feedback issues on the gfs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 on the gfs at hr 60, it has 2 lows? It looks like the 2nd low(the one futher south) robs the energy from the first one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I think the models might be responding to that shortwave that passes through Florida at the same time the main wave comes through the mid atlantic. I'm wondering if that is causing the elongation of low pressure off the atlantic coast.. Thoughts, anyone??? was thinking similar, especially on the nam and gfs - seems to be keying in on that wave and perhaps not allowing more deepening till its too late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 More convective feedback issues this run with the leading shortwave(s) robbing energy from the main developing low. Without that, it would likely be a Euro-like bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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