EastCoast NPZ Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Zwyts had a nice post about this a few weeks back: http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/38793-ratios-and-precip-for-our-biggest-snows/ Thanks. I'd forgotten about that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiscaster Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I ended up at 1.5", so I could see Dulles being adjusted down a little bit. Do they ever adjust totals? I know a few times where it was found that measurement protocols were not followed and they were revised, but those were during big storms. I thought it was a little high too, because my location is usually similar to IAD and it was more like an inch where I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 I want to know more about the power plant enhancement and how I can get a power plant upstream from my location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Looks like the official for Leesburg is 1.4"...i know a few heavier bands came through after i left for work...up to 5.6" for the year....sigh...come on double digits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyS Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 DCA's seasonal snow total is now 0.6 inches, leaving it 1.4 inches behind last season's final total. On the other hand, IAD's seasonal snow total is now 4.0 inches, leaving it 0.3 inches ahead of last season's final total.Apparently, the Dulles total has been revised down to 1.2 inches for this storm -- http://www.erh.noaa.gov/lwx/events/snowmaps -- so, that would bring IAD's seasonal snow total down to 3.4 inches, leaving it 0.3 inches behind last season's final total. Also, the revision would bring down the IAD snow/precipitation ratio for this storm to 24 to 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 lol they dropped dca to 0.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I want to know more about the power plant enhancement and how I can get a power plant upstream from my location. you have congress nearby. close enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 that was at 7am so who knows ahh yeah tho they didnt report any liquid after that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 that was at 7am so who knows Heated gauge=bad measurement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relic Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 1.7 near mine run. 1.8 to the west and 2.0 to the east so seems right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 Heated gauge=bad measurement? with the correction at dulles both bwi and iad were 24-25:1. dca was 10:1 thru 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiscaster Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 If you believe the nam/euro combo then yes, everyone gets close to double. EE Rule in effect. Bookit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I posted this on LWX's facebook wall: DCA measurements are really embarrassing year after year. I realize the FAA is responsible, but since they are official, how long are we going to sit back and just accept the incompetence? Can we refuse to certify these totals? I had 0.9" in Old Town right on the water. You look at other surrounding measurements and it is almost inconceivable that DCA got only 0.4". This was a cold storm for everyone. Even if they got only 0.03" of liquid which is doubtful, only 13:1 ratios?...when everyone got much higher?...seasoned meteorologists south and east of DC got 20:1+ ratios. I realize Sterling isn'r responsible, but I think it is time you all stepped up and did something since this is official data. Well said. I hope they give it consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 So is it a year yet without a 1+ event at DCA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 So is it a year yet without a 1+ event at DCA Yes. Just over now. Jan 20-21 last yr was 1.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 Well said. I hope they give it consideration. From what I understand they have looked into it. Obs will be taken at national either way for safety but they could take obs from somewhere within 5 miles. I think one problem is needing two full time observers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 From what I understand they have looked into it. Obs will be taken at national either way for safety but they could take obs from somewhere within 5 miles. I think one problem is needing two full time observers. Like how Philly's snow site got moved across the river to a park in NJ? Hey, I'm all for that-- measuring at the park yielded Philadelphia two whopper snow totals (23" and 28.5") in 09/10 thy actually were higher than what downtown saw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 25, 2013 Author Share Posted January 25, 2013 If it snows tomorrow we should meet at the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 If it snows tomorrow we should meet at the airport. They should start using Oakland md to start measuring DC snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 25, 2013 Author Share Posted January 25, 2013 it's not just the location...it is also that snow is not being measured properly at that location...I measured 0.9" 100 yards from the potomac and I never swept...this was settled snow at 8:30 am..I even got over 0.5" on wooden planks over the river walking out to a pier.....How can someone get only 0.4" from 0.03" liquid in that clipper and the 0.03 is probably low anyway How hard is it to measure snow? 6 hr reports should generally beat honest end-event measurements anyway. No way they got 13:1 ratios last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 25, 2013 Author Share Posted January 25, 2013 They should start using Oakland md to start measuring DC snow I'm going to lobby Biden for the Observatory. I bet he's part weenie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 1" for me and DCA had heavier radar returns than I did so go figure(again) 28 for my high today and think DCA was 29 so 3 consecutive for DCA that daytimne highs have not hit 30. That's decent and tomorrow should make it 4 straight. Wonder if we had 4 such in 2009-10 snows or do have to go back to Feb 2007? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 25, 2013 Author Share Posted January 25, 2013 1" for me and DCA had heavier radar returns than I did so go figure(again) 28 for my high today and think DCA was 29 so 3 consecutive for DCA that daytimne highs have not hit 30. That's decent and tomorrow should make it 4 straight. Wonder if we had 4 such in 2009-10 snows or do have to go back to Feb 2007? We were in 20s on tue but had a midnight high of 32. If we stay in 20s tomorrow would be three which is longest since Jan 09. Four days below freezing would tie feb 2007 for most recent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 We were in 20s on tue but had a midnight high of 32. If we stay in 20s tomorrow would be three which is longest since Jan 09. Four days below freezing would tie feb 2007 for most recent. 2/07 was a genuinely good month of winter. Yeah we missed out on the big dog, but at least the sleet storm was interesting and had a high impact on the area. Clipper on the 7th, sleet storm, snow burst near MLK day, and then the overperforming snow blitz late in the month--- 4 events in a month alongside a consistently cold pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 16 and crystal clear, calm, snow covered, cold glorious winter night. DCA is not worth much as far as important observations and am about to asist with some new efforts to work on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 25, 2013 Author Share Posted January 25, 2013 meh. it's fine other than snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Sky getting milky now and I bottomed at 16 as now 16.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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