ORH_wxman Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 It is more than that....It is incompetence...I am 4-5 mi south right on the river and I am 0.9 to 1.0....Arboretum has 0.9...Oxon Hill has 1"......it is impossible that DCA has only 0.4" Maybe the guy measures on a lillypad in the Potomac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 I know where the measurement is taken. I want to go test my own measurement nearby someday but I couldn't today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Balti Zen Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Quite a storm gradiant...3 feet at BWI and less than 1/2 an inch at DCA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAOS Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 ********************storm total snowfall******************** ... Anne Arundel County... Edgewater 2.0 836 am 1/24 public BWI Airport 2.0 700 am 1/24 Airport Glen Burnie 2.0 730 am 1/24 public West River 1.8 836 am 1/24 public 1 NW Annapolis 1.0 700 am 1/24 public 3 SSW Crownsville 1.0 800 am 1/24 trained spotter Clipper is going to ouperform the 25/26 "storm". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 Airport ratios BWI, 25:1; Dulles, 36:1; DCA 13:1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Airport ratios BWI, 25:1; Dulles, 36:1; DCA 13:1. corn dust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeguyfromTakomaPark Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Airport ratios BWI, 25:1; Dulles, 36:1; DCA 13:1. Have to wonder about measurement error. Is there any reason to think DCA would have approximately 1/2 to 1/3 the ratios at other airports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdsofprey02 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 what were the QP totals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 what were the QP totals? .08 BWI .05 IAD .03 DCA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyS Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 .4 DCADCA's seasonal snow total is now 0.6 inches, leaving it 1.4 inches behind last season's final total. On the other hand, IAD's seasonal snow total is now 4.0 inches, leaving it 0.3 inches ahead of last season's final total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaSnow Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I work within the shadow of DCA. I live about 5 miles due south of IAD. Although the 0.4 at DCA is a tad low, I'm more surprised by the 1.8 at IAD. I didn't measure, but my eyeball estimate was less than an inch at home at 6:00 am. I can't see how the couple of hours of very light snow could bring IAD up to 1.8. Plus, the liquid equivalent of .05 doesn't add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
real Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Not sure I would just dismiss DCA's .4 measurement. I work Downtown, less than a half-mile from the River, and don't really think I could measure more than a half-inch on the ground right now. There was a bit more at my house in Upper Northwest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 Not sure I would just dismiss DCA's .4 measurement. I work Downtown, less than a half-mile from the River, and don't really think I could measure more than a half-inch on the ground right now. There was a bit more at my house in Upper Northwest. It might be right but the others are probably high then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlizzardNole Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 FWIW I got 1 inch in Germantown, but noticed only about a half inch on surfaces walking down 1st street from Union Station, to the office. I suppose maybe buildings, etc could have interfered, but it looked like 0.5" to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 It might be right but the others are probably high then. I ended up at 1.5", so I could see Dulles being adjusted down a little bit. But I also wouldn't be surprised if it stays where it is. Tenths of an inch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 I ended up at 1.5", so I could see Dulles being adjusted down a little bit. But I also wouldn't be surprised if it stays where it is. Tenths of an inch... Still doesn't make sense why Dulles would have a ratio almost three times DCA's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Still doesn't make sense why Dulles would have a ratio almost three times DCA's. DCA sux? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongRanger Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Snow? With temps below 20F? Around here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I managed a quarter inch . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtropics Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Checking in here with a solid half inch. DCA's measurement makes sense IMO. Dulles is the one that is wack with a 36 to 1 ratio lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Although seperated by 50 miles, trajectory of the incoming precip seemed to align my area with IAD area. I can confirm 1.75" IMBY measured at 3 separate flat spots. 36:1 ratio seems dubious; maybe there is error with the liquid measurment? It was very cold and the snow is exceptionally light and powdery though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I had a solid 1.5" inches of snow from .07", more than a 20-1 ratio. So did Buzz Burek another retired NCEP met who lives 2 miles southeast of me. Also, measuring fluff at 11:30 when the snow ended hours ago just doesn't work as it settles alot. If it's 0.50 inches now it probably a couple of tenths higher earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtropics Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I had a solid 1.5" inches of snow from .07", more than a 20-1 ratio. So did Buzz Burek another retired NCEP met who lives 2 miles southeast of me. Also, measuring fluff at 11:30 when the snow ended hours ago just doesn't work as it settles alot. If it's 0.50 inches now it probably a couple of tenths higher earlier. Can you imagine if we had a legit wet system dumping 1-2'' QPF in this airmass!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I had a solid 1.5" inches of snow from .07", more than a 20-1 ratio. So did Buzz Burek another retired NCEP met who lives 2 miles southeast of me. Also, measuring fluff at 11:30 when the snow ended hours ago just doesn't work as it settles alot. If it's 0.50 inches now it probably a couple of tenths higher earlier. Are we supposed to trust you and Buzz Burek, you were probably the guys issuing the winter storm watches when we were only getting 3 flakes . I hate those NCEP mets, they have no clue what they are doing. Heck we should just disband the NWS according to half the people here . Heck plenty of people yesterday were making fun of the WWA advisory and it was definitely warranted. I would hate to be an NCEP met, all the criticism when they are wrong but none of the glory when they are right 90% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Are we supposed to trust you and Buzz Burek, you were probably the guys issuing the winter storm watches when we were only getting 3 flakes . I hate those NCEP mets, they have no clue what they are doing. Heck we should just disband the NWS according to half the people here . Buzz was one of the guys that made sure the models were running on time and tracked down problems. Another Met Frank Rosenstein had similar ratios in Waldorf. Fluffy snows are great but rarely happen here when you get a true noreaster. There usually is too much cloud water involved so you have some riming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteoutMD Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I measured 1 inch when I left for work at 7 am in Annapolis. Do people thing we will get generally more tomorrow then what we just had or less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I measured 1 inch when I left for work at 7 am in Annapolis. Do people thing we will get generally more tomorrow then what we just had or less? If you believe the nam/euro combo then yes, everyone gets close to double. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Buzz was one of the guys that made sure the models were running on time and tracked down problems. Another Met Frank Rosenstein had similar ratios in Waldorf. Fluffy snows are great but rarely happen here when you get a true noreaster. There usually is too much cloud water involved so you have some riming. In general, what ratios are attained in our "cold" coastals (i.e., 02/2003, 01/1996, 12/2009)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 One thing about the IAd ratios. Most likely it is too high. Heated gauges in cold weather tend to set up mini thermal that tend to keep some of the flakes from getting into the gauge. Essentially they underdo the precip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVclimo Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 In general, what ratios are attained in our "cold" coastals (i.e., 02/2003, 01/1996, 12/2009)? Zwyts had a nice post about this a few weeks back: http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/38793-ratios-and-precip-for-our-biggest-snows/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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