swimmatte Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Looks weird to me..... GFS 1 Degree FORECAST FOR: JYO LAT= 39.08 LON= -77.57 ELE= 390 18Z JAN21 * - APPROXIMATED 2 M 850 1000 FZING SFC SFC 6 HR SNCVR TMP TMP 850 HGT WIND PCP QPF LIQ © © THK (FT) (KTS) TYPES (IN) (IN) MON 18Z 21-JAN 4.0 -7.8 129 1413 16008 0.00 TUE 00Z 22-JAN -0.9 -9.5 128 114 31012 SN 0.01 0.00 TUE 06Z 22-JAN -5.8 -17.7 124 0 29013 0.00 0.00 TUE 12Z 22-JAN -8.9 -21.3 123 0 30014 0.00 0.00 TUE 18Z 22-JAN -6.3 -20.4 123 0 30015 0.00 0.00 WED 00Z 23-JAN -8.2 -20.4 123 0 30009 0.00 0.00 WED 06Z 23-JAN -10.1 -20.9 122 0 28006 0.00 0.00 WED 12Z 23-JAN -11.1 -19.5 122 0 26006 0.00 0.00 WED 18Z 23-JAN -5.1 -18.7 124 0 27009 0.00 0.00 THU 00Z 24-JAN -5.2 -15.3 125 0 31005 0.00 0.00 THU 06Z 24-JAN -6.4 -15.5 125 0 32003 SN 0.01 0.00 THU 12Z 24-JAN -9.0 -17.1 124 0 31006 SN 0.01 0.03 THU 18Z 24-JAN -3.8 -18.0 124 0 35010 0.00 0.00 FRI 00Z 25-JAN -7.7 -16.7 125 0 34002 0.00 0.00 FRI 06Z 25-JAN -7.2 -12.9 125 0 15004 0.00 0.00 FRI 12Z 25-JAN -6.3 -6.9 126 0 15010 0.00 0.00 FRI 18Z 25-JAN -5.7 -2.6 126 7655 18014 IP 0.45 0.47 SAT 00Z 26-JAN -1.3 -0.9 130 3765 23009 ZR 0.19 0.64 SAT 06Z 26-JAN -6.2 -8.3 127 0 30013 0.00 0.64 SAT 12Z 26-JAN -9.2 -13.7 125 0 31009 0.00 0.64 SAT 18Z 26-JAN -2.9 -14.1 126 0 31011 0.00 0.63 SUN 00Z 27-JAN -6.9 -13.6 126 0 28009 SN 0.00 0.61 SUN 06Z 27-JAN -10.1 -11.7 126 0 29008 0.00 0.61 SUN 12Z 27-JAN -12.9 -5.8 126 0 31005 0.00 0.61 SUN 18Z 27-JAN -3.2 -4.8 127 0 22003 0.00 0.60 MON 00Z 28-JAN -5.8 -0.4 129 425 17004 0.00 0.60 MON 06Z 28-JAN -4.9 0.9 129 5921 19004 0.00 0.60 MON 12Z 28-JAN -5.9 0.7 130 5446 21004 0.00 0.60 MON 18Z 28-JAN 0.7 1.7 131 6001 19004 0.00 0.53 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimmatte Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 IAD was pretty much just like JYO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Swimmate...are all these things you're posting behind a paywall? If so, please stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 jyo .66 all snow i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I will give you credit you are one of the few here no matter what it shows, you always tell us the NAM sucks. the nam doesn't suck per se it's just not supposed to be used very heavily for a synoptic winter storm so far out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover33 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Would this be a Thursday Night/Friday storm or a Friday/Saturday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimmatte Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Would this be a Thursday Night/Friday storm or a Friday/Saturday? 18z GFS showed rush hour Friday it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 oops..... Is there a way I can post the text in a way that I wouldn't be breaking rules? Not our rules, AccuWeather's (or any other pay site) Rules. Legal Issues could arise if they are from a pay site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Not sure the text stuff is a big problem if it's used sparingly or paraphrased. No need to paste every location every run either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 one way to make your weather page hopping is to make a irresponsible forecast 4 days out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimmatte Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Not our rules, AccuWeather's (or any other pay site) Rules. Legal Issues could arise if they are from a pay site. I hear you, and don't want to break rules however like Ian just mentioned, I thought the text outputs were ok, just not maps. Ian, I agree, and actually felt like posting a ton of them just cluttered the board. I'll stop posting them unless a mod says it's cool. If that ends up being the case, I'll be more sparing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Not sure the text stuff is a big problem if it's used sparingly or paraphrased. No need to paste every location every run either way. I know that this thread is not the place, so mods please delete when it gets cleaned up but. Ian, If it specifically says "Copyright AccuWeather 2013, All rights Reserved. Distribution Prohibited" Like it did in the Euro output he posted here: http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/38918-late-january-2013-mid-long-range-disco-thread/?p=2025563 <-- PS. Already flagged post for mods. Edit/PS: I'm not trying to be criticizing or harsh, I just don't want legal trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimmatte Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I know that this thread is not the place, so mods please delete when it gets cleaned up but. Ian, It is if there its specifically says "Copyright AccuWeather 2013, All rights Reserved. Distribution Prohibited" Like it did in the Euro output he posted here: http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/38918-late-january-2013-mid-long-range-disco-thread/?p=2025563 <-- PS. Already flagged post for mods. Don't want to argue but I had copied the whole page there. Every single accuweather.com page has that disclaimer. So is everything on their site not allowed to be posted? Just type in accuweather.com and look at the bottom of the page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I know that this thread is not the place, so mods please delete when it gets cleaned up but. Ian, It is if there its specifically says "Copyright AccuWeather 2013, All rights Reserved. Distribution Prohibited" Like it did in the Euro output he posted here: http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/38918-late-january-2013-mid-long-range-disco-thread/?p=2025563 <-- PS. Already flagged post for mods. right.. i'd abstain from copy/pasting directly. it's best to side with caution tho so yeah.. don't post them. but paraphrasing, putting into own words, anything works... plus when it's not the euro most of the data is available for free as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUweathermanDD Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 right.. i'd abstain from copy/pasting directly. it's best to side with caution tho so yeah.. don't post them. but paraphrasing, putting into own words, anything works... plus when it's not the euro most of the data is available for free as well. I'd actually really only worry about the Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Balti Zen Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Works both ways... Ian's maps are property of American... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Don't want to argue but I had copied the whole page there. Every single accuweather.com page has that disclaimer. So is everything on their site not allowed to be posted? Just type in accuweather.com and look at the bottom of the page. All I see if the general copyright at the bottom of each page on a non-subscription site. I don't see the "Distribution Prohibited" - Anything from a paysite shouldn't be posted...that's why you're paying for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avdave Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 right.. i'd abstain from copy/pasting directly. it's best to side with caution tho so yeah.. don't post them. but paraphrasing, putting into own words, anything works... plus when it's not the euro most of the data is available for free as well. Would you check your PM's please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swimmatte Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I got my answer, I won't be posting them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Would you check your PM's please i actually just answered you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUweathermanDD Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Here is DCA at 96 hrs..very close to sleet...I'd still lock it in...3-4" followed by hvy sleet...nice Definitely, BWI pretty much all snow, and that sounding there takes very little cold trending to really make you want to lock it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 heavy sleet is the most frustrating winter event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I got my answer, I won't be posting them. Forum Tip: You can post anything from the NWS or sites that you don't have to login/subscription for. Places like Twisterdata, PSU E-Wall, All NWS/NOAA/Government sites, etc. Most of these places have all the data free anyway because the GFS/NAM etc. are products of the US Government which by default is free for the public. The only catch is when it comes to the Euro or the CMC, however, on the forums we usually paraphrase or give out details of the run in our own words. You can still say for example "Well, at hr 156 850 temps on the euro for IAD are -.6°C" That's totally fine and, in fact encouraged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 heavy sleet is the most frustrating winter event meh.. after 3-4" it's a nice solid cap to help keep it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 99 hrs on 18z gfs imby probably still snow, with some grains; almost all the precip has fallen by then RESS HGT(MSL) TEMP DEW PT WND DIR WND SPD HPA M C C DEG M/S E = Estimated Surface Height 998. 73. -2.3 -3.0 200.5 6.1 975. 263. -3.6 -4.3 206.4 11.4 950. 469. -4.8 -5.1 208.2 15.3 925. 677. -5.4 -5.6 213.1 19.7 900. 893. -3.6 -3.9 222.5 26.3 850. 1350. 0.3 -0.3 234.5 35.8 800. 1836. -0.4 -0.6 244.9 37.0 750. 2351. -2.4 -2.5 252.4 35.4 700. 2897. -5.0 -5.3 256.3 33.0 650. 3476. -8.1 -8.5 257.9 31.6 600. 4094. -11.4 -11.5 252.7 31.7 one other consideration re the NAM, recall it was the farthest North with the precip in the last storm at the end of its range and was wrong if it's making a similar error with this event, it's right there with the GFS and almost the Euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clueless Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Here is DCA at 96 hrs..very close to sleet...I'd still lock it in...3-4" followed by hvy sleet...nice Yay for heavy sleet? I hope we can eek out a mostly sn event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clueless Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I'd take 3" followed by hvy IP versus 1-2" of powdery dryslot Agreed. Dry slots are heartbreaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUweathermanDD Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I'd take 3" followed by hvy IP versus 1-2" of powdery dryslot My bet is it'll be ripping dendrites haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVAForecaster Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 Well judging by the temps after the storm, any snow or ice that falls wouldn't be melting anytime fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I'd take 3" followed by hvy IP versus 1-2" of powdery dryslot Any frozen is good frozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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