Geos Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 That's quite an erratic shift for the EURO - is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Road Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I don't think the Euro has been as consistent as the snow romantics think. Is it time to give up? Absolutely not. But confidence is slightly decreasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 On 1/21/2013 at 6:19 AM, Hoosier said: ORD gets like .08" on this run. .13" with the last half of that or some from whatever LE occurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 On 1/21/2013 at 6:19 AM, Hoosier said: ORD gets like .08" on this run. That being said, I take it southern half of IN/OH make out pretty well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 On 1/21/2013 at 6:29 AM, Thundersnow12 said: .13" with the last half of that or some from whatever LE occurs. Ooh, better than I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 On 1/21/2013 at 6:28 AM, Thunder Road said: I don't think the Euro has been as consistent as the snow romantics think. Is it time to give up? Absolutely not. But confidence is slightly decreasing. Yeah memories of the southern track the EURO was showing for the solstice storm pop back into my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 On 1/21/2013 at 6:30 AM, snowlover2 said: That being said, I take it southern half of IN/OH make out pretty well? OH is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Road Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Euro dropped the big one on us. But is it over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Euro is slower to move the PV out of the way and lags behind a lobe of vorticity from the PV which doesn't allow for heights to rise along the EC. Not exactly settling to see the shifts to the South tonight but this is far from settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 It'll be nice to see some snow on the ground, looks like it'll be right on time for Friday night so it takes forever to get to the Red Wings game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargers09 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Gee what a shocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 The vast majority of the 00z GFS ensemble run had the system much further North/stronger a couple even had precip type issues as far North as here. I don't think this is far from settled at all, quite interesting to see most of the ensembles disagreeing with the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargers09 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 On 1/21/2013 at 7:39 AM, Stebo said: The vast majority of the 00z GFS ensemble run had the system much further North/stronger a couple even had precip type issues as far North as here. I don't think this is far from settled at all, quite interesting to see most of the ensembles disagreeing with the OP. Very interested to see what the Euro ENS. Has to say. It'll tell us if the latest OP run a blip or is if its on to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 On 1/21/2013 at 7:39 AM, Stebo said: The vast majority of the 00z GFS ensemble run had the system much further North/stronger a couple even had precip type issues as far North as here. I don't think this is far from settled at all, quite interesting to see most of the ensembles disagreeing with the OP. ALL of them are north of the OP run. Still would hold off on excitement. I remember models doing this not long ago. In that case if i recall correctly it was the euro ensembles which had went north of the OP and in the end the OP ended up correct. Then another time they were too far se. I'll post the euro ensembles when it is out. It is rolling out now and out to 72hrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 On 1/21/2013 at 7:41 AM, Chargers09 said: Very interested to see what the Euro ENS. Has to say. It'll tell us if the latest OP run a blip or is if its on to something. My guess is that the Euro ens should have similar spread like the GFS ensembles, rarely do the Euro ensembles wildly jump run to run. If they do trend South however, that would be a bad sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 euro ensembles are weaker and further south. Showing a stronger banana type high stretching across the N.Lakes on down towards the Mid Atlantic ahead of the storm. The system waits to take off ( strengthen ) till it is to the WV border. Nice hit for those in Ohio and se IN. Not much for those to the north and west of Indy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostfern Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 On 1/21/2013 at 6:18 AM, wisconsinwx said: If neither this or the next potential storm (end of January) pans out, it probably will be weenie suicide time, myself included. I'm officially giving up on this one for anyone north of I-94. Around the 31st I'm thinking there will be better southern stream energy and a lot more juice to work with. The 0z Euro and GFS both look interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckster2013 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 On 1/21/2013 at 8:02 AM, Harry said: euro ensembles are weaker and further south. Showing a stronger banana type high stretching across the N.Lakes on down towards the Mid Atlantic ahead of the storm. The system waits to take off ( strengthen ) till it is to the WV border. Nice hit for those in Ohio and se IN. Not much for those to the north and west of Indy.. On 1/21/2013 at 8:02 AM, Harry said: euro ensembles are weaker and further south. Showing a stronger banana type high stretching across the N.Lakes on down towards the Mid Atlantic ahead of the storm. The system waits to take off ( strengthen ) till it is to the WV border. Nice hit for those in Ohio and se IN. Not much for those to the north and west of Indy..Das ist gut!!!! ( if it holds) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 saw the euro coming a mile away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 On 1/21/2013 at 11:22 AM, Alek said: saw the euro coming a mile away Quit being so negative, you negative nelly. There's nothing to be negative about. Negativity gives you cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 On 1/21/2013 at 11:26 AM, snowstormcanuck said: Quit being so negative, you negative nelly. There's nothing to be negative about. Negativity gives you cancer. Cancer. Nice. Not overly dramatic at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 and the 12z nam is wayyyy north at 84....but also pretty weak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 nothing like having the 84 hr NAM as the only model on your side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 On 1/21/2013 at 3:18 PM, buckeye said: and the 12z nam is wayyyy north at 84....but also pretty weak Yes but Nam is just entering that timeframe. TBH Nam looks really nice as it is phasing with the norther piece of energy at hour 84 and I'm sure the next images would look good.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 ajdos is on board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Knew the NAM would be kinda north when it entered its range. Typical. It also has 850 temps of 4.6C at 84 hours here, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 The NAM is having a particularly bad year even by NAM standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 On 1/21/2013 at 3:30 PM, Alek said: The NAM is having a particularly bad year even by NAM standards. It truly blows. Need to go back to the old ETA parameters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 On 1/21/2013 at 3:20 PM, Alek said: nothing like having the 84 hr NAM as the only model on your side. the long range nam and nogaps are like the fattest, ugliest chicks in a bar. Just because you notice them doesn't mean you want to sleep with them. How bad is the nam? I believe the nam had the 500 low for last weeks richmond snowstorm going to the lakes 84hrs out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 On 1/21/2013 at 2:46 PM, Chicago WX said: Cancer. Nice. Not overly dramatic at all. You realize I'm satirizing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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