Damage In Tolland Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Great write up from Box with nudies http://www.erh.noaa.gov/box/papers/Bliz78NWS.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Between 1/13 and 2/7 there was an incredible 49.5" of snow at BDL. There was the 1/17-1/18 10-inch storm followed by 1" of freezing rain and sleet that lead to the collapse of the Civic Center. The very next day there was a 15.5" snowstorm at BDL during the big 1/19-1/21 blizzard. A brief thaw on 1/26 (58F) lead to a sizable amount of melting but you have to imagine the piles on the sides of roads were still huge. All of that set the stage for the great blizzard where incredible snow totals (20" downtwon HFD and 25" New Haven) were whipped by hurricane force wind gusts. Even inland areas that rarely get a puff of wind during a snowstorm experienced very impressive wind gusts that turned a more pedestrian snow amount into the most memorable blizzard of the 20th century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 Moosup CT with reports of 4-5 feet on the level!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Moosup CT with reports of 4-5 feet on the level!! I just loudly LOLd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Between 1/13 and 2/7 there was an incredible 49.5" of snow at BDL. There was the 1/17-1/18 10-inch storm followed by 1" of freezing rain and sleet that lead to the collapse of the Civic Center. The very next day there was a 15.5" snowstorm at BDL during the big 1/19-1/21 blizzard. A brief thaw on 1/26 (58F) lead to a sizable amount of melting but you have to imagine the piles on the sides of roads were still huge. All of that set the stage for the great blizzard where incredible snow totals (20" downtwon HFD and 25" New Haven) were whipped by hurricane force wind gusts. Even inland areas that rarely get a puff of wind during a snowstorm experienced very impressive wind gusts that turned a more pedestrian snow amount into the most memorable blizzard of the 20th century. If anyone is interested you should read about what was going on during that 58F thaw - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I just loudly LOLd 4' in foxboro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 4' in foxboro Really? I didn't think anyone in Mass exceded 40" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Between 1/13 and 2/7 there was an incredible 49.5" of snow at BDL. There was the 1/17-1/18 10-inch storm followed by 1" of freezing rain and sleet that lead to the collapse of the Civic Center. The very next day there was a 15.5" snowstorm at BDL during the big 1/19-1/21 blizzard. A brief thaw on 1/26 (58F) lead to a sizable amount of melting but you have to imagine the piles on the sides of roads were still huge. All of that set the stage for the great blizzard where incredible snow totals (20" downtwon HFD and 25" New Haven) were whipped by hurricane force wind gusts. Even inland areas that rarely get a puff of wind during a snowstorm experienced very impressive wind gusts that turned a more pedestrian snow amount into the most memorable blizzard of the 20th century. I'd have to imagine there was still snow depth after the Cleveland bomb...ORH had a snow depth of 11" still after that cutter, so even BDL had to have had a cement glacier. The piles and large snow banks made it difficult though to deal with the Feb '78 storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Really? I didn't think anyone in Mass exceded 40" I think the official high amount is 39"? A couple coops reported that, but can't remember. I think one of them was Woonsocket, RI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JERSEYSNOWROB Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 My first memorable snowstorm growing up in the heart of South Jersey. I was 6 yrs old at the time. Even though we only got a bit over a foot of snow, the winds alone created massive drifts which was amazing to me as a 6yr old. I still vividly remember my next door neighbor's car completely buried and cars stuck on the main road by my house for a few days!! They weren't prepared for major snowstorms back in the day in South Jersey. ha ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I'd have to imagine there was still snow depth after the Cleveland bomb...ORH had a snow depth of 11" still after that cutter, so even BDL had to have had a cement glacier. The piles and large snow banks made it difficult though to deal with the Feb '78 storm. Yeah the "depth" was 6" prior to the storm but given the amount of snow prior to that... I imagine the piles were massive outside of the official depth on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I think the official high amount is 39"? A couple coops reported that, but can't remember. I think one of them was Woonsocket, RI. Yeah I thought Woonsocket was the highest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 Report of 55 inches in Ri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Report of 55 inches in Ri That sounds like a drift measurement lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Moosup CT with reports of 4-5 feet on the level!! Who lived there then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 As bad it was in Ct they got screwed compared to RI and Mass, glad I lived in RI, only far Eastern CT really got the best. Plainfield to Woodstock CT was in the 30"+ range. NBC 30 had 1-3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 As bad it was in Ct they got screwed compared to RI and Mass, glad I lived in RI, only far Eastern CT really got the best. Plainfield to Woodstock CT was in the 30"+ range. NBC 30 had 1-3" Yeah... too bad you were in South County. The KU book has the only ob in Washington County at 25" with 25 inches on Long Island and New Haven. Looks like we all did about the same. 36" in Plainfield and 38" in Woonsocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 now compare to the forecast height field across the east next week compressed sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Yeah... too bad you were in South County. The KU book has the only ob in Washington County at 25" with 25 inches on Long Island and New Haven. Looks like we all did about the same. 36" in Plainfield and 38" in Woonsocket. so downtown hartford had 20 inches but bdl only had 17 inches or is there discussion that they undermeasured? also do you know what the springfield area received? i am curious since i live here now and this area seems to really struggle in noreasters. i grew up in Bristol Ct but was too young to remember the storm. I remember the Bristol Press saying that 18 inches fell. My parents had a tremendous photo album of the storm and judging from the pics which were taken at least a day later id say anywhere from 18 to 24 seems right even allowing for a few inches of cement base. if i remember correctly from an article i read a long time ago, most of what central ct up to bdl and spfd got was on the front end dump of the storm with the raging twenty four hour snowfall going on mainly east of the river. I seem to remember something about the ct valley and much of ct west of the river in general being dry slotted or the snow was very light after the initial surge. what i do remember though in people's retrospectives over the years was of tremendous winds and drifting and i am sure that 18 to 20 inches of crazy drifted snow looks a lot worse that that much on the level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 so downtown hartford had 20 inches but bdl only had 17 inches or is there discussion that they undermeasured? also do you know what the springfield area received? i am curious since i live here now and this area seems to really struggle in noreasters. i grew up in Bristol Ct but was too young to remember the storm. I remember the Bristol Press saying that 18 inches fell. My parents had a tremendous photo album of the storm and judging from the pics which were taken at least a day later id say anywhere from 18 to 24 seems right even allowing for a few inches of cement base. if i remember correctly from an article i read a long time ago, most of what central ct up to bdl and spfd got was on the front end dump of the storm with the raging twenty four hour snowfall going on mainly east of the river. I seem to remember something about the ct valley and much of ct west of the river in general being dry slotted or the snow was very light after the initial surge. what i do remember though in people's retrospectives over the years was of tremendous winds and drifting and i am sure that 18 to 20 inches of crazy drifted snow looks a lot worse that that much on the level. That's right... C/W CT had the front end dump and then things lessened. BDL had 17" from the storm and HFD had 20". There were 2 reports around HVN of 24"/25" so I think they may have caught some better banding. The subsequent snow beyond the first afternoon/night really clobbered Windham County and into RI and E Mass. While the 15-25" in most of CT was impressive the snow on the ground (and great snow banks) were whipped by crazy gusts for a snowstorm away from the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Yeah... too bad you were in South County. The KU book has the only ob in Washington County at 25" with 25 inches on Long Island and New Haven. Looks like we all did about the same. 36" in Plainfield and 38" in Woonsocket. Couple of myths we busted years ago. The Westerly Airport observer had to leave and could not get back until well after the storm subsided. W/E were crazy high yet drifts were 15-25 feet, tough to get snow at 6-1 to drift like that. More accurate estimations of snow depth at the near shore locations were virtually impossible due to sustained and gusty winds sometimes gusting near and above 70 mph for extended periods. A severe T storm sat over Scounty for as long as 3 hours with constant lightning high winds and rates of snow unseen in modern times. The closer to the shore you were the more intense the storm was, while interior areas running from NE CT to interior EMass had more accumulation the wind prone areas received the more dynamics. Snow cores to my knowledge were few and far between and w/e like trop systems were substantially underdone. Based on my experience and photos I have seen areas in interior RI Mass jackpotted. Once in a lifetime and I hope you young guns get the experience some day. I would recommend if it comes, get to a near shore area, the experience is surreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 The pics/vids, stories and memories of this never get old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 From what I can tell and perhaps those numbers prove it, there was a stationary band as it was occulding from near BOS and SW to interior SE MA and adjacent RI. It may have also been related to the dryslot that moved to extreme se ma where the dryslot enhances precip by lowering stability in the mid levels. The storm got banded when it occluded, but one band sat in the aforementioned region. It also could have been related to coastal frontogenesis in that region too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 From what I can tell and perhaps those numbers prove it, there was a stationary band as it was occulding from near BOS and SW to interior SE MA and adjacent RI. It may have also been related to the dryslot that moved to extreme se ma where the dryslot enhances precip by lowering stability in the mid levels. The storm got banded when it occluded, but one band sat in the aforementioned region. It also could have been related to coastal frontogenesis in that region too. It was a TROWAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Really? I didn't think anyone in Mass exceded 40" HubbDave lived there as well at the time. He can give some credence to that number. Granted I was only 3-1/2 but I posted pictures of the aftermath. It was nuts. I don't think any measurement was accurate given the intensity and longevity of the storm. SEMA was in one of those stationary bands as Scott alluded to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 It was a TROWAL See that's usually a wider band or CCB deal like April fools 97 etc. I mean it could be, but I picture a cyclonically spinning band as the whole thing becomes banded and fractured. I can't place the storm....but I have a radar image of this phenomenon in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Ginx's meteorological fables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I was living in Milford, MA at the time, but I thought that Burriville or N Smithfield got up near 48" from the storm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 I was 10 and in 4th grade. My school roof collapsed and we missed several (3-4) weeks before we could be moved to a new one My parents had a 1975 VW microbus and a 1972 beetle. Both were completely buried with a foot of snow on the roof. When we opened our garage door it completely was snowbound. We had no snowblower and it would have been useless National Guard trucks were needed (huge front end loaders) to clear our streets. No car traffic for a week walked/sledded to the BPM in Sharon (now a Shaws) to get food I can't prove 48" of new snow but that sounds close to right. Never seen anything like it. The roar if the wind, pink lightning, long duration event that easily crushes (for me) 1997 and Oct 2011 combined Best snow forts ever. 25'-35' high snow piles in front of our house I have no pics though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Ginx's meteorological fables.You really have no ideaIt was mind blowing. Read Tougais books on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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