weathafella Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 And Joe, just be because its drizzling in areas that got good snow earlier doesn't make GFS right. I would argue the snow reported in heavier echoes west say otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 looks like it was a general 2-5"...amout Yeah solid advisory event...didn't really produce many surprises, though the rates did impress for a short time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Absolutely dumping in CON right now. Really large snow growth. ASOS vis went into the tank really quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 -8C H85? lol .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 PM THIS EVENING/... AS OF 1211 PM EST WEDNESDAY...MODERATE SNOW CONTINUES TO FALL ACROSS THE NORTH COUNTRY THIS AFTERNOON WITH AN UNEXPECTED BAND FORMING NORTH OF THIS MORNINGS MAIN PRECIPITATION SHIELD...NOW LOCATED ACROSS NORTHERN AND CENTRAL PORTIONS OF VERMONT AND NEW YORK. ACCUMULATIONS ACROSS CENTRAL AND SOUTHERN VERMONT STILL ON TRACK FROM THIS MORNING WITH TOTAL AMOUNTS OF 2-3" EXPECTED BY THIS EVENING...AND NOW LOOKING AT A DUSTING TO 2 INCHES ACROSS NORTHERN VERMONT AND NEW YORK AS WELL. HAVE A GREAT AFTERNOON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 32.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 rain like only this area can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Bow Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Just under 4" on the ground. Had some borderline S+ not long ago. Dead grass covered up ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 And Joe, just be because its drizzling in areas that got good snow earlier doesn't make GFS right. I would argue the snow reported in heavier echoes west say otherwise. there are times when you can absolutely toss a model, but there's lots of times where you have to take the different things they are good at, account for typical errors etc and then come to a conclusion. the euro and gfs, imo, were rather 50/50 on this. they had errors in different areas. people are way too IMBY about this. one thing that hurts the GFS's perception is the 4 model runs a day - that offers it more opportunities to have shifts and give the perception that it's crap or inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 there are times when you can absolutely toss a model, but there's lots of times where you have to take the different things they are good at, account for typical errors etc and then come to a conclusion. the euro and gfs, imo, were rather 50/50 on this. they had errors in different areas. people are way too IMBY about this. one thing that hurts the GFS's perception is the 4 model runs a day - that offers it more opportunities to have shifts and give the perception that it's crap or inconsistent. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 there are times when you can absolutely toss a model, but there's lots of times where you have to take the different things they are good at, account for typical errors etc and then come to a conclusion. the euro and gfs, imo, were rather 50/50 on this. they had errors in different areas. people are way too IMBY about this. one thing that hurts the GFS's perception is the 4 model runs a day - that offers it more opportunities to have shifts and give the perception that it's crap or inconsistent. Also gives it the chance to verify easier for a single model run. GFS was too warm at the sfc (shocker), and a bit too aggressive with the ML warming in the morning, but its eventual ML looks pretty good. It just did it too quickly. Euro was too cold aloft, but schooled the GFS on the snow all the way to the E coast of MA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 And Joe, just be because its drizzling in areas that got good snow earlier doesn't make GFS right. I would argue the snow reported in heavier echoes west say otherwise. A blend was a nice way to go as usual, to say the gfs was not useful is incorrect which has been said here today. The euro was too cold and the gfs too warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn0waddict Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 A blend was a nice way to go as usual, to say the gfs was not useful is incorrect which has been said here today. The euro was too cold and the gfs too warm. So we got an inch or two of snow back in Fairfield? I'm in NYC right now and didn't even get to see a flake of snow. I saw the 3.5 report at bdr, but I doubt that's accurate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 32.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 rain like only this area can. LOL Had been in some fzdz that swtiched over to a nice burst of snow for aobut 30 minutes, now just flurring. 28.3/27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 32.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 rain like only this area can. Back to gloppy snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 vis improved for this picture, but it's back down to 1/2 mile now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 WAWA isn't raining...its fzdz fair weather skiers, probably a frz drizzle back to flakes situation. well...when you take 3 kids to go skiing, all under the age of 11...and it's only 1 parent...the weather does count for something...you do whatever saves your sanity...and if only skiing a half day is what it takes, then god bless, LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 LOL at the PV 850 tightness, holy crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Temp dropped 2 degrees here at work last 1/2 hour down to 34, NW at 4 mph Baro still falling at 1014.4 baro down to 1011.2 some sort of front oscillating around here in SE Ct, winds nw then E then nw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 LOL at the PV 850 tightness, holy crap That's exactly where the euro had the 850 line for days at 18z today! I stand by the GFS failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 That's exactly where the euro had the 850 line for days at 18z today! I stand by the GFS failure.Shaking you violently agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 So we got an inch or two of snow back in Fairfield? I'm in NYC right now and didn't even get to see a flake of snow. I saw the 3.5 report at bdr, but I doubt that's accurate big spread in town...3 inches north end where I am and roughly an inch or 1.5 down at the beach...and LOL at the 3.5 at BDR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Just got home...saw a couple of bad accidents today. -SN now and we're in the suckerhole currently, but 3.6" new with only 0.25" water equiv. According to my gf there was good snow growth late morning into the early afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarshall Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 rain in south boston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWMan Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Sleet at Gov't. Center in Boston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Just got home...saw a couple of bad accidents today. -SN now and we're in the suckerhole currently, but 3.6" new with only 0.25" water equiv. According to my gf there was good snow growth late morning into the early afternoon. The overwhelming majority of our phone calls today involved some turn of the phrase "extra slippery snow." I mean we have an advisory up for hazardous travel conditions, and this isn't the first time it's ever snowed near 32 degrees with some slushy melting on the roads. Time of day clearly didn't help things, with people rolling out of bed and getting on the snow covered roads. Maybe the torch got to people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 The overwhelming majority of our phone calls today involved some turn of the phrase "extra slippery snow." I mean we have an advisory up for hazardous travel conditions, and this isn't the first time it's ever snowed near 32 degrees with some slushy melting on the roads. Time of day clearly didn't help things, with people rolling out of bed and getting on the snow covered roads. Maybe the torch got to people? I drove home with 4x4 and at 50-55mph with mostly slushy lanes on I93. I passed a bad accident near exit 16 going north about an hour ago...it was 2 or 3 cars. Anyways, even at that speed I had people flying by me and I was holding up the slow lane (which is rare for my driving). People are just morons sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWMan Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 The overwhelming majority of our phone calls today involved some turn of the phrase "extra slippery snow." I mean we have an advisory up for hazardous travel conditions, and this isn't the first time it's ever snowed near 32 degrees with some slushy melting on the roads. Time of day clearly didn't help things, with people rolling out of bed and getting on the snow covered roads. Maybe the torch got to people? This morning's drive south from Portland was brutal. I think it was a combination of the timing and the fact that, because it wasn't billed as a blockbuster storm and didn't prompt any closures, you had the full volume of people on the roads trying to drive like they normally would on dry pavement. I'll also add that, at least anecodotally, a lot of people along the coast were assuming it would be raining this morning. Don't know if that was based on local media forecasts, or just the assumption that it wouldn't be cold enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 This morning's drive south from Portland was brutal. I think it was a combination of the timing and the fact that, because it wasn't billed as a blockbuster storm and didn't prompt any closures, you had the full volume of people on the roads trying to drive like they normally would on dry pavement. I'll also add that, at least anecodotally, a lot of people along the coast were assuming it would be raining this morning. Don't know if that was based on local media forecasts, or just the assumption that it wouldn't be cold enough. This is the battle we as meteorologists wage. It wasn't billed as a big storm because it isn't a big storm. It's a standard advisory type snow event, nothing really all that special about it. If we were to play up the significance of the storm we run into problems when a big nor'easter really tracks up the coast. That's how you end up with tornado emergencies and the like, "no this time we really mean it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 This morning's drive south from Portland was brutal. I think it was a combination of the timing and the fact that, because it wasn't billed as a blockbuster storm and didn't prompt any closures, you had the full volume of people on the roads trying to drive like they normally would on dry pavement. I'll also add that, at least anecodotally, a lot of people along the coast were assuming it would be raining this morning. Don't know if that was based on local media forecasts, or just the assumption that it wouldn't be cold enough. We all lead busy lives now. Rush rush rush. There's not enough time in the morning to allow yourself an extra 20-30 mins to get to where you need to go. People get perturbed when they can't drive 80mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 NWS can't fix stupid. If people want to drive 80mph on snow covered roads....no warning or advisory will fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 NWS can't fix stupid. If people want to drive 80mph on snow covered roads....no warning or advisory will fix it. Tractor trailer, SUV within 200 yards of each other on the NB today into the trees and one of those mega road signs. Stupid is as stupid does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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