TwcMan Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 NAM is a miss for Friday I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 0zNAM is a complete whiff. Look it's cold and dry , it happens in cold patterns sometimes . Them the breaks Beats watching storms go to the lakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 0zNAM is a complete whiff. Look it's cold and dry , it happens in cold patterns sometimes . Them the breaks Beats watching storms go to the lakes Disagree, having snow to the north and WAY to the South is pure torture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The synoptics are actually very unfavorable for this to become an accumulating snow north of the M/D line. A Polar Vortex positioned on the eastern shore of Hudson Bay almost always means suppression and a NC/VA type hit. The PV generally needs to be over central or western Hudson's Bay for height rises along the east coast to occur, allowing a more nwd storm track. In this particular case I wouldn't be surprised if the GFS trended worse/south at 00z given the overpowering PV. It's unfortunate that now we've got the arctic air intruding and ruining our snow chance. However, I've always thought our better opportunities would come when the cold regime settled in (next week). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Yesterday was optimistic and today is depression so I'll just take it day by day. Who knows what the models will show a few days from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWCCraig Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Yesterday was optimistic and today is depression so I'll just take it day by day. Who knows what the models will show a few days from now. I agree. Sad to see Raleigh, NC will probably get more snow in less than 24 hours from Friday's storm than what we've got in our entire season so far (5.0" at KISP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm At Sea Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Just watch for my posts....If I don't post anything, there's honestly very little threat...just sayin Yesterday was optimistic and today is depression so I'll just take it day by day. Who knows what the models will show a few days from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 NYC never really gets winter when I was at Lyndon State College and the University of Wisconsin - Madison we got winter, and boy do I miss it. The ground was white from December to March, that was in the mid 1970's to low 1980's. Now when I go visit family and friends in Wisconsin during Xmas it is much warmer and it even rains a decent amount of time. During the 1970's and early 1980's it hardly rained in Wisconsin in the winter. So NYC winters are wimpy and I miss those sub zero days or heavy snow at -10F. Even in the snowiest winters in NYC, the majority of storms bring rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Even in the snowiest winters in NYC, the majority of storms bring rain. Most of the precip from Dec 1 - Mar 15 1995-96 fell in the form of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I agree. Sad to see Raleigh, NC will probably get more snow in less than 24 hours from Friday's storm than what we've got in our entire season so far (5.0" at KISP). Rather pathetic if you ask me. IIRC Richmond had comparable snow to NYC last season as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Even in the snowiest winters in NYC, the majority of storms bring rain. Eh, not the "snowiest", but certainly in the vast majority. I think 95-96 was more snow than rain. Just barely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Most of the precip from Dec 1 - Mar 15 1995-96 fell in the form of snow. I thought of that, that might be the one exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Eh, not the "snowiest", but certainly in the vast majority. I think 95-96 was more snow than rain. Just barely. The one exception, the rest are definitely majority rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 The one exception, the rest are definitely majority rain. Yeah, the average winter I think is a 2:1 ratio of rain to snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Yeah, the average winter I think is a 2:1 ratio of rain to snow. It is about 3:1 actually...75 % rain in average winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Rather pathetic if you ask me. IIRC Richmond had comparable snow to NYC last season as well. They had about 5-7 inches in that storm in February so it was probably around the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 It is about 3:1 actually...75 % rain in average winter. Yeah, you're right... in fact I think its closer to 80% rain 20% snow... which is more like a 5:1 ratio. I was using seasonal snowfall and comparing it to winter average precip, woops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Yeah, you're right... in fact I think its closer to 80% rain 20% snow... which is more like a 5:1 ratio. I was using seasonal snowfall and comparing it to winter average precip, woops. Some very rare exceptions...in the first three months of 2009 Upton measured 32.1 inches of snow on 4.80" liquid equivalent. ). ...and Upton measured 78.0 inches of snow December 2004 through March 2005 on just 9.85" liquid equivalent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Some very rare exceptions...in the first three months of 2009 Upton measured 32.1 inches of snow on 4.80" liquid equivalent. ). ...and Upton measured 78.0 inches of snow December 2004 through March 2005 on just 9.85" liquid equivalent! I notice my post always kills the thread...I must be in the wrong business or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Humidity Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Perhaps 1993-1994 had more sleet/snow than rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I notice my post always kills the thread...I must be in the wrong business or something. Everyone's busy playing tiddlywinks and reminiscing over old (or recent) photos of themselves making snow angels and fighting with little kids for dominance of the tallest sledding hill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Yeah, you're right... in fact I think its closer to 80% rain 20% snow... which is more like a 5:1 ratio. I was using seasonal snowfall and comparing it to winter average precip, woops. 4:1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Perhaps 1993-1994 had more sleet/snow than rain. Yeah lots of small frozen events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 4:1 Brain is fried tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Brain is fried tonight I'm with you, the lack of snow is affecting us. Radar looks pretty decent for those southern folk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan76 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Was just on youtube looking back at blizzard of '78...kinda' like therapy now I can sleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 0z GFS isnt pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 0z GFS isnt pretty. Fairly boring through Day 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 0z GFS isnt pretty. It's not but given the rapid day to day changes, it really doesn't bother me. I think ultimately the SSW will help us out. The pattern has to set in first and then we could start seeing threats, also the blocking should come back gradually and many mets are favoring February as being a good month (though that's been said several times already for December and January so who knows). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 0z GGEM and Euro brings back the miller b for next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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