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Pattern change on our doorstep - will it deliver the goods? General Discussion/ banter


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False. On the euro ensembles, next week will be colder than it looked 7 days out.

 

 

Yeah I have no idea where this is coming from. We mentioned several days ago (I did at GTG also) that the Euro ensembles had like -15C 850s over us for several days next week and said that was a fairly impressive signal for like 11-12 days out but we'd have to wait and see.

 

Now its more like -18C to -20C.

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it is, but some folks were talking highs in the low teens in SNE...not seeing that anywhere (unless it's 7 days or longer) Sure it's cold, but not brutal cold like the models had last week.

Next week will have a couple days that flirt with low teens for highs here I think. Ensemble mean has -18C to -20C 850s down to here for Tue/Wed which would be close. The OP Euro has -22C for two days in a row here at the same time, which would do the trick.

NWS won't forecast much below 20F that far out. They have a 20F and an 18F high here for day 5 and day 6.

And look at tomorrow - all the talk of the cold not verifying...850s look like they will end up around -18 to -19 or so here which is pretty darn close to what's been modeled for a long while.

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Yeah I have no idea where this is coming from. We mentioned several days ago (I did at GTG also) that the Euro ensembles had like -15C 850s over us for several days next week and said that was a fairly impressive signal for like 11-12 days out but we'd have to wait and see.

 

Now its more like -18C to -20C.

 

Maybe some are remembering a weenie op ruin that had -30C air for one run.

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I remember last weekend Ryan and I discussing this coming Friday. Box had me in the mid 30's for highs . I lol d at that and he said he had a 34. I said "take em down" . Looks like my high might tickle near 20. This is why you don't live and die with nws forecasts. Look elsewhere. Dig, learn

 

There was logic behind that. Look at Saturday. It was just a matter of timing and you lucked out.

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the PV is about 500 miles further north than where it was modeled a week out, thats a huge change.

Actually it is the New England forum and I will be near zero tonight and have highs in the teens to near 20 the first half of next week.  That would be well below normal.  I'm glad the PV is further north than was modeled.  Was that all models over several runs or just one run?  As far as I knew we were supposed to get cold at some point this week, relax for a day or two, get cold again next week with a possible storm, perhaps relax again for a couple days and then get cold again.

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You busted 7hrs out and you are going to give Ryan crap 7 days out?

I think I've more than proved that I am adept at recognizing patterns and issuing good forecasts. Did I bust on tonight's snow. Sure did. But I think I've had a pretty damn good winter overall and have added plenty of valuable forecasts . Maybe you don't agree and that's ok.
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I think I've more than proved that I am adept at recognizing patterns and issuing good forecasts. Did I bust on tonight's snow. Sure did. But I think I've had a pretty damn good winter overall and have added plenty of valuable forecasts . Maybe you don't agree and that's ok.

you go big every time and once in a while you're right

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Steve you're taking this too seriously, many were pokes in jest.  You and Jerry put it out there and that's appreciated.  It's better than those that say nothing much at all talking in generalities but pull I told you so when something doesn't go right. 

 

 

 

Yes, what I see is a rinse and repeat.  Storms are surpressed or too warm, sometimes some of us get lucky.  I do think that system around the 27th-30th is going to be warm but it brings cold with it again (and a nearby PV)

 

 

AIT, been modeled well for several days.  Cutter well to the NW, temps moderate and then finally we get the real cold before we rinse and repeat on a bigger cutter type system a few days later.

 

 

I'm still amazed how much you come under the influence of the CF there.

it might read that way , but believe me I take none of this serious,LOL  are you cereal?

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Actually it is the New England forum and I will be near zero tonight and have highs in the teens to near 20 the first half of next week.  That would be well below normal.  I'm glad the PV is further north than was modeled.  Was that all models over several runs or just one run?  As far as I knew we were supposed to get cold at some point this week, relax for a day or two, get cold again next week with a possible storm, perhaps relax again for a couple days and then get cold again.

 

 

Waiting on my squalls with the arctic front here Mark, Looks like they are a half hour away or so it they hold

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