ORH_wxman Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Pete probably averages 100 or 105. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 no ****? This is the SNE subforum... Umm, it's the "New England" Subforum although many feel it is SNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 False. On the euro ensembles, next week will be colder than it looked 7 days out. Yeah I have no idea where this is coming from. We mentioned several days ago (I did at GTG also) that the Euro ensembles had like -15C 850s over us for several days next week and said that was a fairly impressive signal for like 11-12 days out but we'd have to wait and see. Now its more like -18C to -20C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 it is, but some folks were talking highs in the low teens in SNE...not seeing that anywhere (unless it's 7 days or longer) Sure it's cold, but not brutal cold like the models had last week. Next week will have a couple days that flirt with low teens for highs here I think. Ensemble mean has -18C to -20C 850s down to here for Tue/Wed which would be close. The OP Euro has -22C for two days in a row here at the same time, which would do the trick. NWS won't forecast much below 20F that far out. They have a 20F and an 18F high here for day 5 and day 6. And look at tomorrow - all the talk of the cold not verifying...850s look like they will end up around -18 to -19 or so here which is pretty darn close to what's been modeled for a long while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 lol Oh I see you think it's more toward 120, got ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Yeah I have no idea where this is coming from. We mentioned several days ago (I did at GTG also) that the Euro ensembles had like -15C 850s over us for several days next week and said that was a fairly impressive signal for like 11-12 days out but we'd have to wait and see. Now its more like -18C to -20C. Maybe some are remembering a weenie op ruin that had -30C air for one run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Umm, it's the "New England" Subforum although many feel it is SNE. lol or further south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 No matter how you want to spin it, Next week up here will be well below normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I remember last weekend Ryan and I discussing this coming Friday. Box had me in the mid 30's for highs . I lol d at that and he said he had a 34. I said "take em down" . Looks like my high might tickle near 20. This is why you don't live and die with nws forecasts. Look elsewhere. Dig, learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Maybe some are remembering a weenie op ruin that had -30C air for one run. Usually is the case. Remember the coldest or snowiest OP run in the long range and use that for verification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I remember last weekend Ryan and I discussing this coming Friday. Box had me in the mid 30's for highs . I lol d at that and he said he had a 34. I said "take em down" . Looks like my high might tickle near 20. This is why you don't live and die with nws forecasts. Look elsewhere. Dig, learn There was logic behind that. Look at Saturday. It was just a matter of timing and you lucked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 nobody doubted the cold... the issue is moisture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 There was logic behind that. Look at Saturday. It was just a matter of timing and you lucked out.No I used meteorology not modelology . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 nobody doubted the cold... the issue is moistureneed the southern stream to come alive. Or maybe a Miller B if it's only going to be the northern stream.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 nobody doubted the cold... the issue is moisture pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 nobody doubted the cold... the issue is moistureYour buddy Nor 27 still says no cold coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 the PV is about 500 miles further north than where it was modeled a week out, thats a huge change. Actually it is the New England forum and I will be near zero tonight and have highs in the teens to near 20 the first half of next week. That would be well below normal. I'm glad the PV is further north than was modeled. Was that all models over several runs or just one run? As far as I knew we were supposed to get cold at some point this week, relax for a day or two, get cold again next week with a possible storm, perhaps relax again for a couple days and then get cold again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 No I used meteorology not modelology . You busted 7hrs out and you are going to give Ryan crap 7 days out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 NCEP fixed the site, nice new buttons now all the links are dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 You busted 7hrs out and you are going to give Ryan crap 7 days out?I think I've more than proved that I am adept at recognizing patterns and issuing good forecasts. Did I bust on tonight's snow. Sure did. But I think I've had a pretty damn good winter overall and have added plenty of valuable forecasts . Maybe you don't agree and that's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 NCEP fixed the site, nice new buttons now all the links are dead. They work fine for me. http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/gfs_area_param.php?model=gfs&cycle=20130117+12+UTC&area=namer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I think I've more than proved that I am adept at recognizing patterns and issuing good forecasts. Did I bust on tonight's snow. Sure did. But I think I've had a pretty damn good winter overall and have added plenty of valuable forecasts . Maybe you don't agree and that's ok. you go big every time and once in a while you're right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 you go big every time and once in a while you're rightDo you think I do a decent job forecasting overall or do you think I am not wx knowledgable and consider me a complete idiot that knows nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 They work fine for me. http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/gfs_area_param.php?model=gfs&cycle=20130117+12+UTC&area=namer Click on one of these times...do you see anything? http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/list_files_area.php?model=gfs&cycle=12&area=namer¶m=850_temp_mslp_precip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR Airglow Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 As will I, expecting something in the -7/-9 range so high 20s. The absurdity comes from kevin thinking that 20 down here was normal. -skisheep If we have a day where it stays in the teens here before next Thursday, I will eat crow. (and happily too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Steve you're taking this too seriously, many were pokes in jest. You and Jerry put it out there and that's appreciated. It's better than those that say nothing much at all talking in generalities but pull I told you so when something doesn't go right. Yes, what I see is a rinse and repeat. Storms are surpressed or too warm, sometimes some of us get lucky. I do think that system around the 27th-30th is going to be warm but it brings cold with it again (and a nearby PV) AIT, been modeled well for several days. Cutter well to the NW, temps moderate and then finally we get the real cold before we rinse and repeat on a bigger cutter type system a few days later. I'm still amazed how much you come under the influence of the CF there. it might read that way , but believe me I take none of this serious,LOL are you cereal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Actually it is the New England forum and I will be near zero tonight and have highs in the teens to near 20 the first half of next week. That would be well below normal. I'm glad the PV is further north than was modeled. Was that all models over several runs or just one run? As far as I knew we were supposed to get cold at some point this week, relax for a day or two, get cold again next week with a possible storm, perhaps relax again for a couple days and then get cold again. Waiting on my squalls with the arctic front here Mark, Looks like they are a half hour away or so it they hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 As will I, expecting something in the -7/-9 range so high 20s. The absurdity comes from kevin thinking that 20 down here was normal. -skisheep What??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 17, 2013 Author Share Posted January 17, 2013 Click on one of these times...do you see anything? http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/list_files_area.php?model=gfs&cycle=12&area=namer¶m=850_temp_mslp_precip Worked for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 it might read that way , but believe me I take none of this serious,LOL are you cereal? I think some are very serious...and think everyone else is too. Have patience Steve...cold storms are coming it's only 5-10 days away. GFS is on the board with the far offshore low 22nd onward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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