POWERSTROKE Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I can't remember the year but we had highs for a few days from 10-20 degrees with no snow on ground. I think it was 1993-1994? Does anybody remember. it was a true artic blast like this one possibly coming sounds like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mackerel_sky Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Clippers usually don't get it done outside the mountains in NC and SC. BUT , if the polar vortex is as far south as the models are showing,then the clippers would be forced way south.maybe across northern gulf states into most of the Carolinas.I'll take a robust clipper with a 2-4 swath of snow! If this does set up like its forecast to does that open the door for Alberta Clippers? Serious question...haven't seen a strong clipper in a while! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach B Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I can't remember the year but we had highs for a few days from 10-20 degrees with no snow on ground. I think it was 1993-1994? Does anybody remember. it was a true artic blast like this one possibly coming sounds like I believe it was 94. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wow Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I can't remember the year but we had highs for a few days from 10-20 degrees with no snow on ground. I think it was 1993-1994? Does anybody remember. it was a true artic blast like this one possibly coming sounds like I think the both Feb 94 and early Feb 96 outbreaks featured this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beanskip Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Dr. No. lives up to his nickname on next week's event -- southern stream energy is strung out, never consolodates. To make matters worse, onset of cold air appears to be delayed (again). Bulk of the arctic air at Day 7 still up in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Dr. No. lives up to his nickname on next week's event -- southern stream energy is strung out, never consolodates. To make matters worse, onset of cold air appears to be delayed (again). Bulk of the arctic air at Day 7 still up in Canada. Yeah, real shocker there...maybe by end of January we can start to see some evidence of impending/sustained cold inside 10 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 You guys cant even see the Day 10 map yet and you're bitching about what it may or may not be showing? wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I was thinking 20-24th myself. We'll see. There is nothing consistent in the models for that far out now right now, they're just now figuring out it's going to get cold. HPC was really leaning heavily toward the ensembles anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyefan1 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 You guys cant even see the Day 10 map yet and you're bitching about what it may or may not be showing? wow. I was just going to say the same thing.....where are they getting it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beanskip Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 1) who said anything about day 10? 2) isn't the whole problem that the cold air keeps getting pushed back TO day 10? You guys cant even see the Day 10 map yet and you're bitching about what it may or may not be showing? wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 1) who said anything about day 10? 2) isn't the whole problem that the cold air keeps getting pushed back TO day 10? Not when you look at what's occurred/occurring in the atmosphere. This is a completely different game than what we've played the past 2 winters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 You guys cant even see the Day 10 map yet and you're bitching about what it may or may not be showing? wow. Woohoo, after day 9 it shows it getting colder, it's a miracle! It's a cold look on day 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Woohoo, after day 9 it shows it getting colder, it's a miracle! It's a cold look on day 10. Which is exactly the timeframe that's been discussed for 3 days now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I truly believe the SSW is the catalyst for what is about to happen. Obviously other pieces will need to fall into just the right places to get what everyone wants but it's already started to change. Winter is coming, this is not last winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BullCityWx Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I truly believe the SSW is the catalyst for what is about to happen. Obviously other pieces will need to fall into just the right places to get what everyone wants but it's already started to change. Winter is coming, this is not last winter. That's my entire point. The parameters of the game have changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyefan1 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I can understand some bit of skepticism, but imo, this looks like a pretty straightforward pattern change that is occurring. The devil will be in the details these next few days, but for now enjoy the January thaw, because it looks like things could become real interesting these next few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Which is exactly the timeframe that's been discussed for 3 days now? 4 days ago this is what people posted upon seeing the 12z Euro run... 12z Tuesday run - http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/38406-january-pattern-and-storm-discussion/page-49#entry1986970 2 days ago this is what people posted upon seeing the Euro... 0z Thursday run - http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/38406-january-pattern-and-storm-discussion/page-54#entry1989507 I am sure todays 12z Euro run is correct with showing the cold arriving on Jan 21-22nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullCityWx Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 And in the end, the euro is no warmer at 850 this run at 168 than it was at 0z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeznado Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 OK, I am getting a bit more convinced about some of the coldest air in at least a few years, still would like to see the Euro ensembles come a bit more on board but it seems likely that the NE will get a really big cold shot in a week or so, the question down here is will we get a "normal" dose of cold, or will there be one where we get down to more historic levels (lows below 10 in ATL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC_hailstorm Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I truly believe the SSW is the catalyst for what is about to happen. Obviously other pieces will need to fall into just the right places to get what everyone wants but it's already started to change. Winter is coming, this is not last winter. Here we go. STRATALERT TOKYO 11 JAN 2013 0500 UTC 30-HPA ANALYSIS 1200UTC 09 JAN 1. COLD MINUS 77 58N 102W, COLD MINUS 73 50N 52E, WARM MINUS 32 65N 138E, LOW 220 68N 92W, LOW 233 60N 77E, HIGH 370 48N 168W. 2. CONDITIONS AT 30-HPA HEIGHT FIELD, POLAR VORTEX SPLIT INTO TWO OVER NORTHERN CANADA AND OVER WESTERN SIBERIA. COLD AIR LIES OVER NORTHERN CANADA AND NEAR WESTERN RUSSIA. WARM AIR LIES OVER EASTERN SIBERIA. IN THE ZONAL MEAN FIELD, EASTERLY WIND IS OBSERVED THROUGHOUT THE STRATOSHPHERE OVER THE POLAR REGION. 3. STRATALERT EXISTS. MAJOR WARMING HAS CONTINUED AT 30-HPA. TEMPERATURE NEAR THE ARCTIC COAST OF CENTRAL SIBERIA INCREASED WITH MAXIMUM 38 DEGREES FROM 2 JAN TO 9 JAN 2013. REMARK: THE HEIGHT DATA SHOULD BE READ IN DECAMETERS ADDING 20 KILOMETERS.= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsaur Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I saw -9 in the 80s, so if all the rain is going to Key West and Cuba, at least let me enjoy a new record cold. -10 or lower, or just give me 30 and a weak gom low, thank you very much. If it gets too cold, it gets too dry, and we'll have to wait for the space between shots. Of course, I like suppressed, and if it gets only moderately bitter cold, I get a chance at a central Ga. smasher, while the rest of you cry...and we don't what that, lol...but if it gets too cold that may be what comes, if anything falls at all north of Daytona. Sn/ip from Hampton south to Jville, lol. That has a nice ring to it T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carvers Gap Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I can understand some bit of skepticism, but imo, this looks like a pretty straightforward pattern change that is occurring. The devil will be in the details these next few days, but for now enjoy the January thaw, because it looks like things could become real interesting these next few weeks I agree. The potential has been there this winter, but the PNA would not cooperate. Also, it's not like there hasn't been record cold on the other side of the globe - speaking of China. The potential is cetainly there and is moving closer to reality. What will be interesting is if a big storm will lead us into the pattern change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 RAH long term discussion: .LONG TERM /TUESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/...AS OF 335 PM SATURDAY...<last paragraph>DESPITE THE MODEL DIFFERENCES ON THE SYNOPTIC SCALE ACROSS THECONUS...THE CONSENSUS OF MEDIUM RANGE GUIDANCE IS IN GOOD AGREEMENTON THE HEMISPHERIC-SCALE...AND HAVE SUGGESTED FOR THE PAST 7-10 DAYSNOW THAT A STRONG AND HIGHLY AMPLIFIED RIDGE WILL DEVELOP OVERWESTERN NOAM IN POSITIVE PNA-FASHION BY EARLY NEXT WEEK. ANINCREASINGLY ACTIVE SOUTHERN STREAM FROM A TROUGH EAST OF HAWAIIWILL UNDERCUT THIS RIDGE AND EMERGE INVOF THE NORTHERN STREAM OVERTHE MIDDLE ATLANTIC REGION...AND ACCORDINGLY POSE A RISK FOR ACOUPLE OF BOUTS OF CYCLOGENESIS FROM THE GOM TO THE GULF STREAMNEXT WEEK - PERHAPS THE FIRST LEGITIMATE OPPORTUNITY (OR TWO) FORWINTRY WEATHER ACROSS CENTRAL NC THIS SEASON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Never seen RAH speculate about winter weather. Thanks FallsLake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Never seen RAH speculate about winter weather. Thanks FallsLake. Exactly. Comparing this to the past couple of weeks is just a false analogy. If you can't excited about this look then I don't know what else you want to see in the LR, just don't even bother with this thread since the LR is basically all it is discussing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG FROSTY Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Exactly. Comparing this to the past couple of weeks is just a false analogy. If you can't excited about this look then I don't know what else you want to see in the LR, just don't even bother with this thread since the LR is basically all it is discussing. +1 Burger absolutely the best look we have seen in a long time!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Exactly. Comparing this to the past couple of weeks is just a false analogy. If you can't excited about this look then I don't know what else you want to see in the LR, just don't even bother with this thread since the LR is basically all it is discussing. I said the day 10 looked great on the Euro, just like it did 4 days ago. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAD_Wedge_NC Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 +1 Burger absolutely the best look we have seen in a long time!!! Yeah, I usually never mention anything in the long range to the family (don't want to get anyone's hopes up) but, I told the wife that cold is coming and next week and we need to prepare. I made a list: check anti-freeze in the cars, cover the outdoor faucets and buy ice-melt for the driveway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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