AppsRunner Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 CMH 36.9"? They've fared much better than I thought. Even with yesterday's 8"er, they're smoking me. I did manage to pass TOL though. Definitely a screwzone at TOL this winter. CMH: 36.9" TOL: 22.5" DTW: 44.7" I wouldnt mind TOL being the bullseye of a spring snowstorm...that crawls up and slams downriver Detroit as well How this happened i don't even know... although out of the biggest storms in the region... 1 shifted north suddenly, dryslot city in TOL (I ended up with 6" because of some random heavy band overnight) Several missed to the north (YYZ crusher, any storm that hit Geos) the last one just missed to the south Dodged just about every season. I've moved on... I like spring and summer too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 How this happened i don't even know... although out of the biggest storms in the region... 1 shifted north suddenly, dryslot city in TOL (I ended up with 6" because of some random heavy band overnight) Several missed to the north (YYZ crusher, any storm that hit Geos) the last one just missed to the south Dodged just about every season. I've moved on... I like spring and summer too My favorite snowstorm of the winter was the December 26 storm and I remember the models burying OH and TOL ended up with less than 3" while we got a surprise 6.3". Is that the storm with dryslot youre referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Toledo, more often than not, seems to be in a terrible location for snow and screw zones. TOL, CLE, and BUF are all running significant snowfall deficits this winter, with surpluses in every other direction. I guess I just haven't paid much attention, but PIT is at 49.4" or +15" for the season. Unbelievable. Meanwhile just to the north BUF is at 52.5" or -29.5". I think last winter PIT actually beat out BUF which is an incredible feat, and maybe that'll happen again this year. PIT was one of those few locations that actually was normal for snowfall last year ... and if I recall correctly FWA pretty much had normal snowfall last year and are running above normal for this year too. It is much easier for cities with lower seasonal snowfall averages to make it near normal in abbreviated winters like this one. It only takes a few good storms in a 3-4 week pattern to bring them up to normal, while the snowier climes have a harder time making up for a snowless half to winter. CLE still averages 13" more from here on out in the season. So, a lot can happen still, but the near term prospects look bleak. To hit normal for the year, we'd need 25" more ... historically there's a 1% chance of that happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Toledo, more often than not, seems to be in a terrible location for snow and screw zones. TOL, CLE, and BUF are all running significant snowfall deficits this winter, with surpluses in every other direction. I guess I just haven't paid much attention, but PIT is at 49.4" or +15" for the season. Unbelievable. Meanwhile just to the north BUF is at 52.5" or -29.5". I think last winter PIT actually beat out BUF which is an incredible feat, and maybe that'll happen again this year. PIT was one of those few locations that actually was normal for snowfall last year ... and if I recall correctly FWA pretty much had normal snowfall last year and are running above normal for this year too. It is much easier for cities with lower seasonal snowfall averages to make it near normal in abbreviated winters like this one. It only takes a few good storms in a 3-4 week pattern to bring them up to normal, while the snowier climes have a harder time making up for a snowless half to winter. CLE still averages 13" more from here on out in the season. So, a lot can happen still, but the near term prospects look bleak. To hit normal for the year, we'd need 25" more ... historically there's a 1% chance of that happening. I can get to Toledo in 45 minutes down I-75 and though I don't go too often, I cant believe how often the stateline seems to be the snow line. Don't get me wrong, of course there are some storms where TOL does better than here, as well as some where they will get hit and we are completely shutout (the last snow of the season last Mar as a matter of fact). And in the 2009 deep snow deep freeze i believe their depths were even greater than ours. But overall you can check snow depths or what not or storm total snowfall throughout the course of a winter and it seems quite often there seems to be quite the gradient between even Monroe and Toledo. Technically TOL only averages like 6" less than DTW (I think near identical to ORD). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 My favorite snowstorm of the winter was the December 26 storm and I remember the models burying OH and TOL ended up with less than 3" while we got a surprise 6.3". Is that the storm with dryslot youre referring to? Yes... I believe the official NWS forecast was for 6-10" across NWOH... other than Findlay and Sandusky most of the area dryslotted while DTW was getting double the snow TOL was. I can get to Toledo in 45 minutes down I-75 and though I don't go too often, I cant believe how often the stateline seems to be the snow line. Don't get me wrong, of course there are some storms where TOL does better than here, as well as some where they will get hit and we are completely shutout (the last snow of the season last Mar as a matter of fact). And in the 2009 deep snow deep freeze i believe their depths were even greater than ours. But overall you can check snow depths or what not or storm total snowfall throughout the course of a winter and it seems quite often there seems to be quite the gradient between even Monroe and Toledo. Technically TOL only averages like 6" less than DTW (I think near identical to ORD). You are right about both the March snow and January 2009. Jan. '09 we hit 30" in the month... Feb. '10&11 were both top 10 but DTW still crushed them both of those months IIRC. It definitely shows up sometimes during the winter though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Hi March7.png Wow. Welcome to the screwzone club. Charter members ORD, most of IL, and Northern IN welcome you. There have been rumors that everyone except Central IL and you guys in Northern OH may get booted out of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Sorry, I just don't understand of logic of someone who's in the bullseye of a 10"+ snowstorm complaining. It's one thing to complain if you only got 6-10" when 16"+ was expected, but that doesn't apply in this case. Alex got 5.5"...which isn't exactly the bullseye of a storm that dropped 6-10" over most ot chicago area. Speaking of chicago, based on obs out east im thinking the midwest portion of the storm is the only area that will meet expectations. Just too warm for good sticking. UHI is a biatch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 I think December 26th, 2012 was the results of the northern and southern stream vortex splitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 I can get to Toledo in 45 minutes down I-75 and though I don't go too often, I cant believe how often the stateline seems to be the snow line. Don't get me wrong, of course there are some storms where TOL does better than here, as well as some where they will get hit and we are completely shutout (the last snow of the season last Mar as a matter of fact). And in the 2009 deep snow deep freeze i believe their depths were even greater than ours. But overall you can check snow depths or what not or storm total snowfall throughout the course of a winter and it seems quite often there seems to be quite the gradient between even Monroe and Toledo. Technically TOL only averages like 6" less than DTW (I think near identical to ORD). It's just like with Flint and Detroit. See February 5th-6th, 2008 as one example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 **** THIS MARCH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Earning big time extra credit with this sensational March and A grade Feb. Might be hard to give the snow season under a B or B+ even with the F's in nov/dec/jan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Earning big time extra credit with this sensational March and A grade Feb. Might be hard to give the snow season under a B or B+ even with the F's in nov/dec/jan. complaints only. THIS MARCH SUCKS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto4 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 complaints only. THIS MARCH SUCKS I agree, but we'll change our tune come next week. Things are looking interesting for Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I would not mind the cold at all, expect for the new set of Pings that are sitting in my golf bag, waiting to be played. For the most part the snow is gone around here, lets just get to slightly above normal temps and I will be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I would not mind the cold at all, expect for the new set of Pings that are sitting in my golf bag, waiting to be played. For the most part the snow is gone around here, lets just get to slightly above normal temps and I will be happy What do you get? G25's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I love how we get wedged in between two systems Sunday night into Monday with practically no precip to speak of. Could even be some melting that day with 34F and mist probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 What do you get? G25's? Yep. Replacing an old hand me down Callaway set. I originally was looking at another Callaway set, but with the work I would need done I the clubs (I am 6'5" and play +1.5" irons) that I would be sinking $20 in per club in grips, extensions, etc. So it made sense to get the pings and have then custom fitted/manufactured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Yep. Replacing an old hand me down Callaway set. I originally was looking at another Callaway set, but with the work I would need done I the clubs (I am 6'5" and play +1.5" irons) that I would be sinking $20 in per club in grips, extensions, etc. So it made sense to get the pings and have then custom fitted/manufactured. Nice. I work in the golf biz and G25 irons have been pretty hot so far. You'll love them. Ex past facto, but Callaway would've done/manufactured the extension part at no charge too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Nice. I work in the golf biz and G25 irons have been pretty hot so far. You'll love them. Ex past facto, but Callaway would've done/manufactured the extension part at no charge too. I am sporting the new ADAMS CMB's this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I am sporting the new ADAMS CMB's this year... Those are nice sticks. I'm a Titleist staffer, so I play the CB 712's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I love how we get wedged in between two systems Sunday night into Monday with practically no precip to speak of. Could even be some melting that day with 34F and mist probably. it's march...are you really that upset over missing out on an inch of slop? Just have to get through these next few weeks of 40s and clouds before we can get into a pattern change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I agree, but we'll change our tune come next week. Things are looking interesting for Monday. Monday looks like a few sleet pellets followed by a few rainshowers. Then everything gets crushed under the weight of the block. I'd rather have March 2012 than this garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Ok, I hate to use this again, but this afternoon we had a sleet/snow mix (at times all snow) but with temps above freezing absolutely none of it accumulated. Now, when it's at/below freezing, we have started as all sleet. It doesn't even make meteorological sense, as the 850 and other thickness lines were supposed to be drifting southward if anything as the day and evening went on, and with surface temps more favorable now, that should have helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Must be comedy hour in Richmond I think he owes me like a foot this year already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Must be comedy hour in Richmond dt.jpg I think he owes me like a foot this year already 4-8 for here? lol I think I need some of what DT is smoking to believe this map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 4-8 for here? lol I think I need some of what DT is smoking to believe this map. As usual it looks reasonable east of the Apps...and can't understand what he's thinking west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 As usual it looks reasonable east of the Apps...and can't understand what he's thinking west. EC centrist thinking, to him the country ends at the Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Must be comedy hour in Richmond dt.jpg I think he owes me like a foot this year already haha is this for real or pretend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHweather Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 EC centrist thinking, to him the country ends at the Apps. He certainly knows where his audience is haha is this for real or pretend? http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=500163730030890&set=a.148807335166533.25889.129478830432717&type=1&theater Sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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