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Winter '12/'13 Complaint Thread Part 2


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My general complaint ... people don't know how to measure snow. If you are sticking a ruler onto the grass and measuring the snow that way for every storm then you're going to inflate your total at least 1-1.5" because the snow generally doesn't go all way down the ground like a ruler does. I'd imagine quite a few obs from PNS are "grass tainted" ... we really need to coin a new term around here, stat padding and slant sticking are getting old.

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Yeah I wasn't expecting much from this storm but I"ll just leave this here:

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Now of that 3-7" of snow (plus the 1-2" today)... well its 36 and raining still.

 

I always forgot that the NWS IWX county warning area covered areas immediately west of Toledo. It must suck living at the extreme edge of any NWS county warning area. I'd bet the quality of your weather forecast suffers greatly from it.

 

Then again, I don't think CLE does such a great job of providing forecasts for Toledo either. 

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I don't have much of a right to be here considering this has been a solid B winter here, but it is a little disappointing to see every model bust intensely with this storm. Was kind of hoping to go into the upcoming cold stretch with at least some kind of snowpack. I think this storm actually gave us a net loss of snow considering we had a whole day of warm temps and then hours of rain.

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The winter wasn't a complete bust though, right?  I see LAF does not report snow depth, but here is a NWS snow depth map from December 27th.  It appears at least 4 inches on the ground at LAF.

 

That is about the same as Buffalo did last summer for thunderstorms I guess.  Only one decent thunderstorm for the entire summer, and that was on August 5th.  It was literally right as I landed in Buffalo coming back from visiting relatives in VA.  The plane landed, but they wouldn't even let it taxi to the terminal until the storm subsided.  It was a nice view of the storm from the air as we landed.  Outside of that, there were one or two nights in May when there were a few lightning flashes, but nothing of much consequence.  A few days in July have thunderstorms reported officially at the airport, but they must have had like 1 strike and I don't even recall hearing any thunder at my location.  I chased to Warsaw, NY, about 60 miles to my east one day and saw the tail end of a pulse thunderstorm that literally dissipated a few minutes after I got there.  That was the entire season.

Warsaw is 30 miles to our east lol.
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I always forgot that the NWS IWX county warning area covered areas immediately west of Toledo. It must suck living at the extreme edge of any NWS county warning area. I'd bet the quality of your weather forecast suffers greatly from it.

 

Then again, I don't think CLE does such a great job of providing forecasts for Toledo either. 

I live in CLE's CWA here but I had never seen IWX so aggressive before... of course CLE last night called for a changeover to snow at 9PM last night and 5-8" of snow thru Thursday morning... so far we have flurries here and the best so far was a Rain/Snow mix

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I live in CLE's CWA here but I had never seen IWX so aggressive before... of course CLE last night called for a changeover to snow at 9PM last night and 5-8" of snow thru Thursday morning... so far we have flurries here and the best so far was a Rain/Snow mix

 

Ouch. I thought you guys were in a great spot. It's up to 43 here in CLE :bag:

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I don't have much of a right to be here considering this has been a solid B winter here, but it is a little disappointing to see every model bust intensely with this storm. Was kind of hoping to go into the upcoming cold stretch with at least some kind of snowpack. I think this storm actually gave us a net loss of snow considering we had a whole day of warm temps and then hours of rain.

 

I'm glad you did this. QPF was there. Temps were not.

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I don't have much of a right to be here considering this has been a solid B winter here, but it is a little disappointing to see every model bust intensely with this storm. Was kind of hoping to go into the upcoming cold stretch with at least some kind of snowpack. I think this storm actually gave us a net loss of snow considering we had a whole day of warm temps and then hours of rain.

 

Downtown Toronto certainly has reason to complain. After +SN for almost 2 hours and fast accumulations, it switches to RA for two hours, followed by a mix of rain and ice pellets/snow for 30 hours. 2" of slurpee. Pretty disappointing, moreso because of the early excitement which completely got destroyed. To go from the possibility of 8"+ from the all-snow start to the realization it will be under 3" in a matter of 30 minutes is pretty painful.

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ORD may very well end up near normal for seasonal snowfall after the upcoming storm. Meanwhile, I'm stuck at well under 20" for the year. I would have never believed this at the end of January.

 

 

I have never been more ready for severe to track. Or even high Td's.

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Can't sully the other thread with this filth. The snow, after the rain, with temps in the mid 30's is just stupid. Fookin POS NAM.

 

 

39 03/05 09Z   32     30     105      13    0.02  0.00    541    551    0.2 -20.4 1012 100 -RA   040OVC223    0.0   12.242 03/05 12Z   32     31     108      13    0.11  0.00    541    549    1.2 -21.6 1009 100 -RA   016OVC189    0.0    5.645 03/05 15Z   34     32     123      12    0.08  0.00    541    547    0.5 -22.6 1008 100 -RA   013OVC112    0.0   10.248 03/05 18Z   35     33     179       8    0.08  0.00    538    543   -0.9 -23.4 1006 100 SN    007OVC209    0.6    1.351 03/05 21Z   34     32     267      16    0.11  0.00    532    538   -6.1 -26.5 1006 100       009OVC083    0.4   15.354 03/06 00Z   31     30     262      13    0.01  0.00    529    535   -8.1 -26.9 1008  90 -SN   007BKN153    0.0    4.557 03/06 03Z   30     29     270       9    0.02  0.00    529    536   -7.5 -27.1 1008 100 -SN   008OVC204    0.2    2.360 03/06 06Z   29     28     359      14    0.02  0.00    531    540   -6.7 -25.7 1010 100       008OVC247    0.1    5.1
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Can't sully the other thread with this filth. The snow, after the rain, with temps in the mid 30's is just stupid. Fookin POS NAM.

 

 

39 03/05 09Z   32     30     105      13    0.02  0.00    541    551    0.2 -20.4 1012 100 -RA   040OVC223    0.0   12.242 03/05 12Z   32     31     108      13    0.11  0.00    541    549    1.2 -21.6 1009 100 -RA   016OVC189    0.0    5.645 03/05 15Z   34     32     123      12    0.08  0.00    541    547    0.5 -22.6 1008 100 -RA   013OVC112    0.0   10.248 03/05 18Z   35     33     179       8    0.08  0.00    538    543   -0.9 -23.4 1006 100 SN    007OVC209    0.6    1.351 03/05 21Z   34     32     267      16    0.11  0.00    532    538   -6.1 -26.5 1006 100       009OVC083    0.4   15.354 03/06 00Z   31     30     262      13    0.01  0.00    529    535   -8.1 -26.9 1008  90 -SN   007BKN153    0.0    4.557 03/06 03Z   30     29     270       9    0.02  0.00    529    536   -7.5 -27.1 1008 100 -SN   008OVC204    0.2    2.360 03/06 06Z   29     28     359      14    0.02  0.00    531    540   -6.7 -25.7 1010 100       008OVC247    0.1    5.1

 

And with this next system it will complete the loop with being just missed by a bigger event in every direction here in my backyard. Yeah this winter/season or whatever can go rot in hell.

 

Congrats to those in N.IN as they have been screwed really hard as well.

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And with this next system it will complete the loop with being just missed by a bigger event in every direction here in my backyard. Yeah this winter/season or whatever can go rot in hell.

 

Congrats to those in N.IN as they have been screwed really hard as well.

 

Preaching to the choir. LAF fooked again.

 

Time for more drinking.

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