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Moving past first week of January General Discussion/banter


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I'd bet dollars to weenies that Pickles interp of Euro is not what it actually shows

 

lol .  well there was no warm push wrt to ML on tue eve from what i see. so it look'd like a rain to snow sorta deal mon into tues w a bit of HP to the NW on tues with temps -8c 850 in my neck of the woods wed am.

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Mid week event is snow away from coast. Still around .25. Obv that could still change

 

Dividing line for frozen looks to be around I-84, perhaps 25 miles north or so.

 

From Euro, would not expect major icing event as 850/925 mb temps are subzero to the coast by h120 and 126... of course can't rule out sneaky warm layers.  It is the surface that is the problem.

 

But good god, it's like pulling teeth getting that cold air in here - I know these things take time, but this could be shaping up to be more of a glancing blow of Arctic chill kind of deal.  At least through h156...

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Dividing line for frozen looks to be around I-84, perhaps 25 miles north or so.

From Euro, would not expect major icing event as 850/925 mb temps are subzero to the coast by h120 and 126... of course can't rule out sneaky warm layers. It is the surface that is the problem.

But good god, it's like pulling teeth getting that cold air in here - I know these things take time, but this could be shaping up to be more of a glancing blow of Arctic chill kind of deal. At least through h156...

Yeah euro has the pv further north this run. But hr 180 looks interesting with the energy in the south.

It might not be a bad thing if cold is a glancing blow

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LOL that's the thing... it really doesn't. Verbatim the Euro looks like 40ish to me most of next week with a glancing blow of chill. 

 

well some were on board for 37-43 type of weather after first front went thru i recall.

 

so long as tues is a frz deal for NE mass i will be content. glancing blow at arctic chill would sound better to me wrt storm chances next weekend. but again we still have SOOO much time to sort out middle  of next week .

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it's a sh*t pattern over all - not to burst anyone's optimism, but this is the atmospheric equivalent to being a troll.  

 

the problem is between 130 and 110 W longitudes.   the ridge axis is too far W, and that antecedent circumstance leads directly to trough severance and closure in the SW.   That feature then reloads the SE ridge downstream creating the old too much gradient aloft meat shredder scenario.  

 

  

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LOL that's the thing... it really doesn't. Verbatim the Euro looks like 40ish to me most of next week with a glancing blow of chill. 

 

It's been a long time since we've had a shot of Arctic air that delivered as modeled 7-10 days out... I couldn't believe the Euro sfc temps for Wed-Fri... where's the cold?

 

Also, the Vodka presses just to the US/Canada border and not much further south...

 

SE Ridge is beaten back but just won't die...

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it's a sh*t pattern over all - not to burst anyone's optimism, but this is the atmospheric equivalent to being a troll.  

 

the problem is between 130 and 110 W longitudes.   the ridge axis is too far W, and that antecedent circumstance leads directly to trough severance and closure in the SW.   That feature then reloads the SE ridge downstream creating the old too much gradient aloft meat shredder scenario.  

looks like the pattern is getting to you
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