Brian5671 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Torching pretty quickly here this AM under cobalt blue skies--42 already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 We just ripped gusts overnight. So yes Snowman21 there should def have been an advisory @WX1BOX: Strong Wind gusts overnight: Barrington RI (Conimicut Pt): 53 MPH Gust at 254 AM, Thompson, CT: 49 MPH Gust at 410 AM. @WX1BOX: Other Strong wind gusts: Westborough, MA: 49 MPH Gust at 220 AM, Blue Hill (Non-ASOS Site): 49 MPH Gust at 336 AM. I'll let you fight that out with the NWS and their rules for verification. Anyway, with respect to BOX, you've found one station (perhaps there are others) in their CWA that just cleared advisory criteria, assuming it measures wind gusts correctly. I would agree with you if there were widespread 40kt+ gusts, but I have not seen that at least not across CT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Bad construction? Or insect damage perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 What a ridiculous winter..I know in central NJ it was icy as ****, though basically all frozen in jan/feb (aside from that jan event where it went from 0 degrees to 60 degrees in one day, and early march nor'easter)..The snowfall gradient though was probably about 35" at my house bc of all the sleet/ZR to 65" at Newark..I literally can drive to Newark airport from holmdel in 30 mins flat. Anybody know how southwest CT did during that winter and if that sharop gradient contineud to increase? I know you had like 100" that winter Jerry. Getting aggressive this AM man! We had alot of snow to ice events that winter. Not sure of the tally, but most of the events were not all snow. There was also a mid Jan event that went to plain rain with temps shooting up into the low 40's, but then there was a flash freeze after that was so intense that water going down the street literally froze with the little waves showing...amazing stuff. There was snowcover until very late March if I remember correctly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 What a ridiculous winter..I know in central NJ it was icy as ****, though basically all frozen in jan/feb (aside from that jan event where it went from 0 degrees to 60 degrees in one day, and early march nor'easter)..The snowfall gradient though was probably about 35" at my house bc of all the sleet/ZR to 65" at Newark..I literally can drive to Newark airport from holmdel in 30 mins flat. Anybody know how southwest CT did during that winter and if that sharop gradient contineud to increase? I know you had like 100" that winter Jerry. Getting aggressive this AM man! The Danbury coop had 70" in '93-'94. Even torch-central in BDR had 55" right on the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 It's 36F here and sunny with about 2-4" of snowcover OTG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 We had alot of snow to ice events that winter. Not sure of the tally, but most of the events were not all snow. There was also a mid Jan event that went to plain rain with temps shooting up into the low 40's, but then there was a flash freeze after that was so intense that water going down the street literally froze with the little waves showing...amazing stuff. There was snowcover until very late March if I remember correctly That is crazy! I was trying to find the snowfall tallys for Bridgeport and White Plains but am having trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 The Danbury coop had 70" in '93-'94. Even torch-central in BDR had 55" right on the water. To add to that, even the Groton co-op which is about a mile inland from GON, had 56.9 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 The Danbury coop had 70" in '93-'94. Even torch-central in BDR had 55" right on the water. Thanks Will...I see there was really no significant increase from NYC to the BDR area...and damn if SW CT is torch central I'm afraid to ask what name you have for my home town in central NJ lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Sorry HM, I've been waiting for 94 for 19 years....lol. and I've been waiting all 54 years of my life ya' lucky bastids! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 OT, but Chicago has broken the snowfall futility record http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/09/16436467-chicago-breaks-72-year-snowless-record?lite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Thanks Will...I see there was really no significant increase from NYC to the BDR area...and damn if SW CT is torch central I'm afraid to ask what name you have for my home town in central NJ lol You're considered the tropics in C NJ....lol, j/k. Your snowfall there really isn't that much worse than SW CT...at least near the water in SW CT. There's a pretty sharp gradient though down there once you go inland a little bit....esp north of the Merritt. Also once you head E a bit, there's a bit of a maximum in snowfall near the coast around HVN. They probably average like 33-34" there in HVN right near the coast...the airport used to average over 34" when they were taking snow obs...unfortunately they stopped in the late '70s. Then the averages go down again as you head east past Old Lyme and GON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 OT, but Chicago has broken the snowfall futility record http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/09/16436467-chicago-breaks-72-year-snowless-record?lite Lol, their record for latest 1" snowfall is 1899...epic winter on the east coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 OT, but Chicago has broken the snowfall futility record http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/09/16436467-chicago-breaks-72-year-snowless-record?lite amazing given the patern in early DEC they got screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 You're considered the tropics in C NJ....lol, j/k. Your snowfall there really isn't that much worse than SW CT...at least near the water in SW CT. There's a pretty sharp gradient though down there once you go inland a little bit....esp north of the Merritt. Also once you head E a bit, there's a bit of a maximum in snowfall near the coast around HVN. They probably average like 33-34" there in HVN right near the coast...the airport used to average over 34" when they were taking snow obs...unfortunately they stopped in the late '70s. Then the averages go down again as you head east past Old Lyme and GON. Yeah it really is only a 2-4" difference in climo from stamford to holmdel..I've already noticed the difference in snowfall between stamford and nridgeport/new haven in the few events this winter. Bridgeport is at about 15 inches on the year and stamford at about 10". Aside from new haven being a decent tick north in latitude, is it the terrain/funneling of northerly flow that can hang on down the CT river valley in many marginal events that perhaps aids in that little coastal CT snowfall max? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 amazing given the patern in early DEC they got screwed.Late December because in early December we hit 70 degrees, but yeah, it's unbelievable that we completely missed out in that pattern. Indianapolis, less than 4 hrs from here, had their 7th snowiest December with 14.8". Madison, only about 2.5 hrs away, has had almost 2' of snow so far. It's gotten so bad that people on our Facebook page were very excited for a few tenths of snow last weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 amazing given the patern in early DEC they got screwed. Missed them to the left and right. Places like Indy are above normal for snowfall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 OT, but Chicago has broken the snowfall futility record http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/09/16436467-chicago-breaks-72-year-snowless-record?lite funny, 4 or 5 sentences into that article it states that they had the snowiest year ever, just last year. so what you might take from that is, meh - the 2 years mean is right where they are supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Yeah it really is only a 2-4" difference in climo from stamford to holmdel..I've already noticed the difference in snowfall between stamford and nridgeport/new haven in the few events this winter. Bridgeport is at about 15 inches on the year and stamford at about 10". Aside from new haven being a decent tick north in latitude, is it the terrain/funneling of northerly flow that can hang on down the CT river valley in many marginal events that perhaps aids in that little coastal CT snowfall max? Yeah I believe so. I know Ryan (CT_Rain) has talked about the terrain effect there. I think it definitely helps that the coast there juts northward/inland...probably protecting them more from a marine influence than other coastal CT spots...helps them esp in marginal events. On northerly wind events, they do also get that nice drain down the valley. The snowfall inland can go up pretty quickly there. I believe Danbury averages around 42"...and some of the higher hills near them probably 45". Same with Woodbury/Waterbury even more...prob near or even over 50" in spots with elevation over 800-900 feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Boston's events in 1993-94 were pretty much all snow. I remember one event that had ripping snow and 17 or so here while Worcester was sleet and 8. It stayed all snow in Boston. See why I loved it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Ok I feel good about this now...it's coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Boston's events in 1993-94 were pretty much all snow. I remember one event that had ripping snow and 17 or so here while Worcester was sleet and 8. It stayed all snow in Boston. See why I loved it?Cold air must have been deeper... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 93/94 was aided by pinatubo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 If we had the MJO on our side...I have to wonder if the PV would just drop right into the US lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 93/94 was aided by pinatubo Absolutely! In fact so was 1992-93 and 1995-96 though not sure about the latter IMHO. I was thinking we need another one...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Boston's events in 1993-94 were pretty much all snow. I remember one event that had ripping snow and 17 or so here while Worcester was sleet and 8. It stayed all snow in Boston. See why I loved it? BOS had plenty of taint...but there were plenty of all snow events too, and the melting was often short lived. BOS tainted in 1/4/94, 1/17/94, and 1/28/94. The 1/4/94 storm was a lot of snow, but BOS was actually IP/ZR for hours during it. Feb '94 was pretty sweet staying all snow in the back to back systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 BOS had plenty of taint...but there were plenty of all snow events too, and the melting was often short lived. BOS tainted in 1/4/94, 1/17/94, and 1/28/94. The 1/4/94 storm was a lot of snow, but BOS was actually IP/ZR for hours during it. Feb '94 was pretty sweet staying all snow in the back to back systems. Wasn't 1/17 the one where it spiked to 50 and poured and then back to snow with 3inches anafrontal? Also, I think February was the example? The first event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstorm Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Yeah I believe so. I know Ryan (CT_Rain) has talked about the terrain effect there. I think it definitely helps that the coast there juts northward/inland...probably protecting them more from a marine influence than other coastal CT spots...helps them esp in marginal events. On northerly wind events, they do also get that nice drain down the valley. The snowfall inland can go up pretty quickly there. I believe Danbury averages around 42"...and some of the higher hills near them probably 45". Same with Woodbury/Waterbury even more...prob near or even over 50" in spots with elevation over 800-900 feet. Yeah, the orientation of the coastline means that a greater % of winds (esp. E or ESE winds) are off the land. It's not an amazing place for snow but if they hang on to SN for an extra hour or two in a big storm vs. BDR, that'll boost climo. Plus, HVN oftentimes cashes in on late blooming Miller Bs when areas to the west get screwed. See 12/29/12 and March 01... HVN did very well in both. As for 93-94... that was a pretty epic winter in the Danbury area... seemingly endless string of storms but most changed over... I was in 8th grade (taking Earth Science) and we must have had a half dozen 3-5" events that went from sn to ip to zr... snowpack was constant with little warmup... we also snuck into the heavy snows in early Feb... got a good 2' from those... remember thinking I'd never see a snowpack like that every again... a mere two years later, I had almost 2x the amount on the ground. Good times, great oldies, terrific winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Jan 4, the big gravity wave storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Jan 4, the big gravity wave storm. Which while sleeting in mid storm went back to snow. Forecasts were for a few inches then rain. I think we got something like 18 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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