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Moving past first week of January General Discussion/banter


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Hey man. How did your area make out in late Jan-Feb of 2007 when the pattern switched?

 

just fine.  

 

I was at SUNY Oswego at the time...that's when the great EasternUS les chase occurred...we got like 90" or something in 10 days.  I think there was about 130" in Oswego that month.

 

Lake Erie was mostly frozen for that event...but BUF still managed 33" on the month...which is much above normal in BUF for February...like 9th snowiest on record.

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that's good to hear. guessing surface would be rather chilly on Tue with 1030 HP up north, despite mild look to the mid-levels. 

 

That whole setup has screamed low level cold for days now in the interior. We just have to figure out how far south it ends up and if the mid-levels end up cold enough for snow/sleet. But I do think the chances are increasing for some sort of winter precip with that wave. Still 6 days out though, so we have to remember how much can change.

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Well, today was a failed torch day region wide. Tomorrow was never progged torch. Can we get some clouds in here before the Sunday/Sunday night bloodbath? See ya snow..hopefully your new born son will descend upon us within 10 days. Nice stretch coming up beginning sometime next week. No one knows the duration so let's enjoy what we get.

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Well, today was a failed torch day region wide. Tomorrow was never progged torch. Can we get some clouds in here before the Sunday/Sunday night bloodbath? See ya snow..hopefully your new born son will descend upon us within 10 days. Nice stretch coming up beginning sometime next week. No one knows the duration so let's enjoy what we get.

 

It's warmed though in the last few hours.  About 45F here and raw.  Snow pack IMBY took a beating.  Some exposed areas are totally bare tonight.  

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just fine.  

 

I was at SUNY Oswego at the time...that's when the great EasternUS les chase occurred...we got like 90" or something in 10 days.  I think there was about 130" in Oswego that month.

 

Lake Erie was mostly frozen for that event...but BUF still managed 33" on the month...which is much above normal in BUF for February...like 9th snowiest on record.

The MJO behavior and the stratosphere remind of 2007 the most with 2006, 2005 close behind. A possible relaxation of the cold with a looping MJO is not a big deal in the long run and still means we continue to kick ass in Feb, esp. in your area.

 

Your below normal LES days look to be coming to an end.

 

BTW I have a possible theory on why the 00z and 12z runs like to flip back and forth at times of medium range pattern changes, but I must admit that it is a bit weak. I think it has to do with convection on the daytime side of the globe. Perhaps the stratospheric signals are more amplified on the 12z runs when the eastern hemispheric's convection is a bit weaker and then on the 00z runs that gets somewhat dampened as the models realize the latent heat from stronger diurnal convection in the EH. Meh something to think about...

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Dp finally cracked freezing and temp is up to 39.   Far cry from the 168 hour model consensus.   Tough call on if my snowpack will survive the weekend but I'm leaning yes ATM.  

 

Far as the LR goes it looks like the big -AO regime resulting from the Siberian snow will arrive just a bit later than my thoughts in Oct.  Personally think it should last through Feb. and maybe we pull an early Mar. Archie event in SNE before Spring arrives.   (*I'll grant there is very real chance all this is nonsense lol)

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Well, today was a failed torch day region wide. Tomorrow was never progged torch. Can we get some clouds in here before the Sunday/Sunday night bloodbath? See ya snow..hopefully your new born son will descend upon us within 10 days. Nice stretch coming up beginning sometime next week. No one knows the duration so let's enjoy what we get.

 

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It's warmed though in the last few hours. About 45F here and raw. Snow pack IMBY took a beating. Some exposed areas are totally bare tonight.

ya temps @ 850 on spc analysis show a late little spike for ne mass. Add in cloud cover and temps not in rush to fall but 39f here , not sure of dp atm.
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I am adding this to my bucket list.

The winter of 1740-41 staged an early arrival, with October "as cold as ordinarily November is," wrote Bolton, Connecticut, town clerk John Bissell, and a substantial snowfall in mid-November. Two solid weeks of rain in early December resulted in the worst floods on the Connecticut River in half a century, damaging "bridges, fences, hay" and ruining "the Indian corn chambers, cribs . . ." 

"Extreme cold" followed, then late December brought "a prodigious storm of snow out of the north and north west, which was full knee deep, attended in said storm with violent cold weather," continued Bissell. "Travelling was almost wholly suspended by reason of the extreme cold and deep snow, and God had sealed up the hand of every man. We had a very sensible consideration of . . . Who can stand before His cold?" Ludlum reports that by January "Drifting snow soon brought an end to regular travel by highway over New England and the Middle Colonies, and the continuance of penetrating cold soon closed all the rivers and inland waterways with solid ice. Many salt water bays and channels, seldom before frozen, congealed solidly, and even the ocean shore along southern and eastern New England became ringed with an unusual icy surface." 

Boston Harbor became an expanse of ice so thick that sleighs carried worshipers across it from Dorchester to Sabbath services every week from December 25 until April 1. One man made a 200-mile trip by sleigh over the ice from Cape Cod to New York City. The extreme cold was not confined to the Northeast; that year the York River in Virginia froze hard enough to cross. 

A January thaw was followed by bouts of more "violent cold" and repeated snowfalls through early March. "The weather continued cold and the snow wasted but slowly, so that there was considerable quantity of snow the middle of April," wrote Bissell. The Connecticut River was still frozen solid enough to be crossed on foot on the first of April. On April 10 snow still lay two and a half feet deep on the ground on the Massachusetts-New Hampshire border. 

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This is what it's come to, you guys posting 200 hour maps for verification of the mild up.  LOL we NEED a pattern change.

 

Happy there's an additional Sheriff in town, also think you guys need a silent hitman that takes out posts during the busy periods.  Bi-weekly silent moderators would be nice.  

The hypocrisy reeks in here today. Someone post something funny.

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This is what it's come to, you guys posting 200 hour maps for verification of the mild up.  LOL we NEED a pattern change.

 

Happy there's an additional Sheriff in town, also think you guys need a silent hitman that takes out posts during the busy periods.  Bi-weekly silent moderators would be nice.  

It wasn't posted to verify a warm-up, just posted to show that at one point (a long, fuzzy time ago in NWP) tomorrow was shown as an all-out blowtorch.

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