klw Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Snowing lightly here in St. Johnsbury. Yesterday was the first day since at least 12.21 when we were shut out of any snow at my house. Something tells me that today is not the start of another 18 day streak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 There are plenty of flags here. No need to harp on them yet but there's a lot of issues that could prevent us from getting snowy.With cold snow will come. Snow field of Dreams.You like snow or mix next week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWMan Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 That's very rare to see that large of an area of -40C at 850mb in Quebec...you normally only see that in the upper Canadian praries which is pretty rare even there. Amateur question... What does that typically mean in terms of sensible ground temps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Seems like even Scooter tossed aside flags. Only 1 person left who is left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 who is left?Suslak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I believe that's you Phil. My opinion doesn't matter since i'm not from SNE, and I guess everyone else is on board for big snow and cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Amateur question... What does that typically mean in terms of sensible ground temps? -40C 850 temps? Well at night time, who knows with radiational cooling, but you could probably get -50F with that or greater depending on exact conditions. Daytime highs would be in the -15 to -20F range I'd think or even colder..esp further north where the sunlight is less than our area. Its insane cold and rarely makes it south of the US border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Well obviously I wouldn't take it verbatim, lol. That's a historic cold blast for Maine/Quebec...but even if that verifies 5-8C warmer, that is still some pretty major cold. I'm pretty confident there's going to be some extreme cold in there somewhere...but the question is how far south does it get and how far east. More recent guidance is rotating that PV into SE Canada which would obviously mean a greater risk for New England to see an arctic outbreak. I think maybe the bulk scoots by to our NW, but it's going to get cold for a time regardless. I believe that's you Phil. My opinion doesn't matter since i'm not from SNE, and I guess everyone else is on board for big snow and cold. Luckily I'm all stocked up on canned goods, firewood, diesel and generators after the vicious onslaught of cold that started around Thanksgiving AWT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 I believe that's you Phil. My opinion doesn't matter since i'm not from SNE, and I guess everyone else is on board for big snow and cold. I'm in the meh crowd for the next 7-10 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 That is disturbingly cold wx being modeled. Downright nuts wrt 850 temps circa n maine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 light rain falling here now--43. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I believe that's you Phil. My opinion doesn't matter since i'm not from SNE, and I guess everyone else is on board for big snow and cold. yeah i know. lol. he's just trolling me. pretty typical stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Is the 57F ob at HFD even remotely credible? BDL is at 37F and I can't find another CT ob over 45F even on mesonet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Is the 57F ob at HFD even remotely credible? BDL is at 37F and I can't find another CT ob over 45F even on mesonet. wow yeah that seems wrong lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Is the 57F ob at HFD even remotely credible? BDL is at 37F and I can't find another CT ob over 45F even on mesonet. not likely-with cloudcover everywhere, temps are fairly uniform in the low 40's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Today seemd to max out at 41f in wakefield ma after a 45f yesterday, tomm may actually end up milder than today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 LOL I didn't toss aside anything. Like I said, my question is more the longevity of this whole deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 The Euro is on crack, how are those + 20 850s it had up to CNE panning out. Seems in its 7-10 day it goes historic then comes back to reality. Probably has the 5 h within reason which is plenty good enough. LOL though some are being careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 The Euro is on crack, how are those + 20 850s it had up to CNE panning out. Seems in its 7-10 day it goes historic then comes back to reality. Probably has the 5 h within reason which is plenty good enough. LOL though some are being careful. ?? it had +12C i believe. and, fwiw, the 12z GFS now has that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 LOL I didn't toss aside anything. Like I said, my question is more the longevity of this whole deal. that's pretty much where i am at as well. there's little doubt at this point that we'll head downward temperature-wise next week. climo alone would pretty much dictate we aren't going to stay in the 40s/50s. big questions to me are duration and strength. and questioning doesn't imply it can't be good. i just don't believe that it's a lock that we develop and hold on to a wintry pattern. i hope we do but there are just as many reasons to be concerned as there are reasons for optimism. but optimism doesn't change the weather. so...fair enough to discuss, i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 yeah i know. lol. he's just trolling me. pretty typical stuff. Fyi I wasn't talking about you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 ?? it had +12C i believe. and, fwiw, the 12z GFS now has that as well. I'm guessing he's talking about anomalies. But it has +19C on Sunday which the gfs has. With those warm overnight lows...there's going to be like 3 days in a row of +15 to +20 daily anomalies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 The high temperature here today was 46F and that happened for a brief period of time with a little sunshine earlier today. Currently it's 36F here and the temperature is falling. About 1-2" of snowcover melted off today, but there is still about 4-6" remaining with 100% snowcover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 The temp dropped 10 degrees ahead of a cold front? I don't think your high was correct. I'll see what it was when I get home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Euro ensembles are still much faster bringing the front through...by monday morning...and they are more robust with the Tuesday night/Wednesday wave. More robust also means warmer in the mid-levels too. So more sleet/ice thrown into the mix. They are gung ho on the -NAO too. Still Scooter caution flags though with the Pacific going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Euro ensembles are still much faster bringing the front through...by monday morning...and they are more robust with the Tuesday night/Wednesday wave. More robust also means warmer in the mid-levels too. So more sleet/ice thrown into the mix. They are gung ho on the -NAO too. Still Scooter caution flags though with the Pacific going forward. Just excellent news. Legit winter threat to get excited about now and start tracking. Just get thru the next 3-4 days and its touchdowns for days and days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 ?? it had +12C i believe. and, fwiw, the 12z GFS now has that as well. Anamolies for Today, tomorrow morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Aside from the magic that is GC, any thoughts as to why it's been so much cooler here today? Managed to get to 32.1 earlier in the afternoon, but that was fleeting and have been hovering around 31 essentially all day. Not a huge difference than below, but notable nonetheless. 31.0/26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Those aren't anomalies Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Anamolies for Today, tomorrow morning gotcha. i thought you were talking about this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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