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Moving past first week of January General Discussion/banter


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not a good picture on any of those, the trend is not our friend. Models were much much stronger with the wave into phase 7 a few days ago and hence stronger with the +PNA and -NAO. If one is looking at the trends over the past 4 days its not good.

 

read our medium/long range thread. Adam and another met explains why the models are showing it looping back to the COD, when it probably won't be correct.

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The OP GFS is the slowest out of all the GEFS members with the front early next week and by a good amount too compared to most of them. Most of the members have a pretty wintry appeal for Tuesday into Wednesday. This is more in line with the Euro idea.

 

 

Remains to be seen though if we trend back the other way. The slower idea could be right..esp if we get a piece of energy to amplify near the base of the trough before the front can pass us. The high to our north is pretty potent on most guidance though which argues for good cold air drainage at the sfc anyway...regardless of the mid-levels cool off slower/faster.

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Euro is 24+ hours faster. That's ripping

 

the 00z run of the euro was earlier yes. and it actually pushed it offshore (nothing else really does that too well). but it's not like the winds flip NW and winter comes barreling in with plummeting temps behind the boundary. you're making it sound like we're back to "deep winter" by monday night.

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the 00z run of the euro was earlier yes. and it actually pushed it offshore (nothing else really does that too well). but it's not like the winds flip NW and winter comes barreling in with plummeting temps behind the boundary. you're making it sound like we're back to "deep winter" by monday night.

I meant more timing wise. But by Minday evening the interior should be below 32
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LOL-I think he's out turning soil or something (remember that from last January!)

I'm kind of enjoying it-snow is mostly gone here, so no worry about that, no chances for snow for another week so might as well be wLarm. Lower Nat Gas bill too...

Lol I do remember that. He said he was tilling the garden in January.
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how much snow left up that way?

 

I'm working in BOS today but we had very little melt yesterday, so it looked pretty much the same as the pics I posted on Sunday. Maybe 8-10" left on the ground except the all-day sun torched SE facing areas which might be 4-6". Today should be the first day where I see some visual effect of the thaw.

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Anyone want to talk about the massive GEFS shift beyond d10?

 

Yeah that's the -PNA trying to return. Heights rise in the east, but heights also rose near AK quite a bit. Like you said, just wait until the end of the weekend and keep flags handy. This whole thing screams of model volatility too.

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