Damage In Tolland Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Euro looks beautiful next week. Arctic front on Monday, snow/ice Wed-Thurs..and then the motherlode is released day 10 and beyond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 West winds are ripping here. After a low of 20 it's up to 29.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Crazy inversion out there. Temps in the single numbers not far from me while I've risen to the 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Still kind of iffy with this whole thing. I thought the ensemble package was nice overnight but of course I only see out to d10. MJO worry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Scott (PF) might be in the best position to answer this--but anyone who can opine......... My wife and I are looking at grabbing a place in ME again. One of the places in the western hills abutting the White Mountain National Forest. I'm trying to get a sense of how it might fare snow-wise. Here's the deal--it's an an upslope along the eastern boundary of the NF. So, so far so good. But--it's in a very narrow, fairly steep river valley so it's elevation is only about 800 ft. Spitting distance (less than two miles) in all directions to 1200' plus and progressively upward from there as you head deeper into the whites of NH. My guess is that the narrowness of the gorge won't hinder any upslope potential in the snowfall that the surrounding hills would experience. I have to think this place would radiate like a mother. What's your take on that description? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 West winds are ripping here. After a low of 20 it's up to 29.1 Nothing of the sort here at this point. Winds are calm with a high gust of 6mph back at 2:00a.m. 20.2/16 from a low of 18.0. I'll cling as long as I can to sub-freezings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Heavy heavy frost here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Well any kind of precip. might shut off very fast on any kind of westerly or nw wind component with that wall of mtns to the west. I was in that situation immediately east of the 3500-4100 Catskills peaks where I used to live. Scott (PF) might be in the best position to answer this--but anyone who can opine......... My wife and I are looking at grabbing a place in ME again. One of the places in the western hills abutting the White Mountain National Forest. I'm trying to get a sense of how it might fare snow-wise. Here's the deal--it's an an upslope along the eastern boundary of the NF. So, so far so good. But--it's in a very narrow, fairly steep river valley so it's elevation is only about 800 ft. Spitting distance (less than two miles) in all directions to 1200' plus and progressively upward from there as you head deeper into the whites of NH. My guess is that the narrowness of the gorge won't hinder any upslope potential in the snowfall that the surrounding hills would experience. I have to think this place would radiate like a mother. What's your take on that description? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Well any kind of precip. might shut off very fast on any kind of westerly or nw wind component with that wall of mtns to the west. I was in that situation immediately east of the 3500-4100 Catskills peaks where I used to live. Thanks, Rick--I should have clarified that I'm curious about events impacting east slopes. I figured the W/NW scenarios would be a total loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Still 17.4 here with snow still plastered to some trees in the woods. The remnants of the last snow event are now in fade away mode...holding out for an end of the month refresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Still kind of iffy with this whole thing. No euro talk at all which means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 3 runs in a row of the EURO showing a positive NAO in the long range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 There was plenty of Euro talk by me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 3 runs in a row of the EURO showing a positive NAO in the long range. Pants on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Yup Euro's got a moderate snow event next Wed. Winter back Monday FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Pants on fire. Thats not the OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Thats not the OP Why would you the op in the extended range? Oh I forgot..you enjoy the trolling. Personally the op would please me. EPO with a positive NAO brought me on one of my great winters of my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Scott (PF) might be in the best position to answer this--but anyone who can opine......... My wife and I are looking at grabbing a place in ME again. One of the places in the western hills abutting the White Mountain National Forest. I'm trying to get a sense of how it might fare snow-wise. Here's the deal--it's an an upslope along the eastern boundary of the NF. So, so far so good. But--it's in a very narrow, fairly steep river valley so it's elevation is only about 800 ft. Spitting distance (less than two miles) in all directions to 1200' plus and progressively upward from there as you head deeper into the whites of NH. My guess is that the narrowness of the gorge won't hinder any upslope potential in the snowfall that the surrounding hills would experience. I have to think this place would radiate like a mother. What's your take on that description? What area is it Mike? Around Bethal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Still kind of iffy with this whole thing. Same here. In the meantime it's off to the races today. Torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Same here.In the meantime it's off to the races today. Torch. Can you describe the flags? I have them too but I'm wondering if its because things often have not broken well in the past 2 winters.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Can you describe the flags? I have them too but I'm wondering if its because things often have not broken well in the past 2 winters.... Trolling? I don't think they would. Maybe we end up on the fringe. Ie cutters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Can you describe the flags? I have them too but I'm wondering if its because things often have not broken well in the past 2 winters....Non existent -NAO and the continued backing off of the +PNA. The EURO ensembles keep the PNA negative throughout the run. The PV is on our side of the globe which is good but without a +PNA or -NAO its stays too far north and we only get glancing blows of cold air. The pattern can still be very nice for the interior but the trends are not great for the coast. Without a good PNA we arent going to get great amplification for storms, SWFE are more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Non existent -NAO and the continued backing off of the +PNA. The EURO ensembles keep the PNA negative throughout the run. The PV is on our side of the globe which is good but without a +PNA or -NAO its stays too far north and we only get glancing blows of cold air. The pattern can still be very nice for the interior but the trends are not great for the coast. Without a good PNA we arent going to get great amplification for storms, SWFE are more likely. This pattern might suck for you. They need your support in the NYC MA Coastal area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Non existent -NAOand the continued backing off of the +PNA. The EURO ensembles keep the PNA negative throughout the run. The PV is on our side of the globe which is good but without a +PNA or -NAO its stays too far north and we only get glancing blows of cold air. The pattern can still be very nice for the interior but the trends are not great for the coast. Disagree in the NAO. It's not strong but good enough. Historically, the pattern depicted on the euro op/ensembles delivers big time for this area including coastal areas. We'll see but if it transpires as depicted, we're going to have some fun. You answered the question I directed to Phil but I'm responding directly to your issues raised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 This pattern might suck for you. They need your support in the NYC MA Coastal area. It definitely has more red flags down there. The E based -NAO with a -EPO pattern is pretty solid for New England....I'm just wanting to see the EPO stay consistent. It has broken down very often the last 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 Disagree in the NAO. It's not strong but good enough. Historically, the pattern depicted on the euro op/ensembles delivers big time for this area including coastal areas. We'll see but if it transpires as depicted, we're going to have some fun. You answered the question I directed to Phil but I'm responding directly to your issues raised. Yeah the ensembles are all showing a distinct E based -NAO which looks reasonable based on the support from the warming in the stratosphere above it. It may not be negative the entire time, but we should see our bouts...oscillating NAO isn't necessarily a bad thing for us anyway when we have some good cold available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 It definitely has more red flags down there. The E based -NAO with a -EPO pattern is pretty solid for New England....I'm just wanting to see the EPO stay consistent. It has broken down very often the last 3 years. I think EPO is the most critical yet underrated teleconnector. Critical. 1993-94 proved that didn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 This is the best things have looked all winter. Everything is lining up for a solid 6 weeks of winter until it breaks down in late Feb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 I think EPO is the most critical yet underrated teleconnector. Critical. 1993-94 proved that didn't it? Yes, almost all of our really cold winters were provided by it. We don't need vodka cold obviously, but its nice to have if we have an east based -NAO that oscillates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 What area is it Mike? Around Bethal? ding ding ding. We used to own property up there but we sold it before we could build as having a new daughter took priority! My wife is also looking at picking something up on the mid-coast. I have this sneaking suspicion she will win out (funny how wives do that). Whatever (and if) we get, it will be used for both rental and personal use. Yes, almost all of our really cold winters were provided by it. We don't need vodka cold obviously, but its nice to have if we have an east based -NAO that oscillates. Lots of posts recently by people saying they do not want exceptional cold unless there's snow involved. Fully agree on wanting snow, but I'll take the exceptional wintery weather regardless of its ilk. 23.7/19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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