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Moving past first week of January General Discussion/banter


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Well that's no way to start a Monday.

 

Luckily it didn't change how it looked at the surface much...still have a -NAO, but much weaker. Like I said...it might be model fluctuation, but I would like it to be stronger. The EC ensembles as I noted the other day were very bullish and I said we might see it back off a bit with that. Luckily, the Pacific doesn't look bad. Looks like they are getting ready to build ridging again near AK at the end of the run.

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A few pics from the neighborhood today....+7 day today, still mid-winter scenery as low dewpoints and light wind make upper 30s pretty powerless this time of the year. You can still see the light snowfall we had this morning in some of the pics whitening the snow banks and sidewalks.

Nice shots, Will.  You might want to add that rotation to your screen saver and keep your shades drawn at the end of the week.

 

This is a screen cap from the Jan 18 th event where a strip of ECT jackpotted with 4-6 .26cac6ecaf6f2e8ad94a4d194a71ee18.jpg

 

Matt Noyes' "Classic New England Snowbelt"

 

Hopefully it was just a blip, but overnight EC ensemble lost a good chunk of the -NAO.

 

Helluva way to start a Monday morning.

 

Torchy already--33.1/27 off a 'low' of 32.1. 

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Nice shots, Will.  You might want to add that rotation to your screen saver and keep your shades drawn at the end of the week.

 

 

Matt Noyes' "Classic New England Snowbelt"

 

 

Helluva way to start a Monday morning.

 

Torchy already--33.1/27 off a 'low' of 32.1. 

 

Wow, you're warmer than me for once. Congrats!

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Luckily it didn't change how it looked at the surface much...still have a -NAO, but much weaker. Like I said...it might be model fluctuation, but I would like it to be stronger. The EC ensembles as I noted the other day were very bullish and I said we might see it back off a bit with that. Luckily, the Pacific doesn't look bad. Looks like they are getting ready to build ridging again near AK at the end of the run.

Yeah the axis shift even at d10 in the North Atlantic was bothersome to me but overall a nice look. GEFS otoh made me wonder if I'd freeze in my bed as January ended but they did start building the SE ridge at the very end so that could be some serious fun.

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Wow, you're warmer than me for once. Congrats!

 

Seeing the 43 and 47 on my p/c for this weekend makes me weep. 

Yeah the axis shift even at d10 in the North Atlantic was bothersome to me but overall a nice look. GEFS otoh made me wonder if I'd freeze in my bed as January ended but they did start building the SE ridge at the very end so that could be some serious fun.

 

I can't believe I may be in Orlando for much of this wintery onslaught.  Cruel.

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Yeah the axis shift even at d10 in the North Atlantic was bothersome to me but overall a nice look. GEFS otoh made me wonder if I'd freeze in my bed as January ended but they did start building the SE ridge at the very end so that could be some serious fun.

 

If I had a gun to my head...I would think we would be closer to riding the line. We may get cold, but at least IMHO...I'm not worried about suppression from cold air.  East based -NAO with a SE ridge really isn't a recipe for suppression...it's closer to riding the line. Hopefully it means good snow, but I think we should wait until this weekend to see how things look. By that point, we'll have a few days left of this disaster pattern and hopefully a handle on how things shake out. There seems to be some model spread.

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If I had a gun to my head...I would think we would be closer to riding the line. We may get cold, but at least IMHO...I'm not worried about suppression from cold air.  East based -NAO with a SE ridge really isn't a recipe for suppression...it's closer to riding the line. Hopefully it means good snow, but I think we should wait until this weekend to see how things look. By that point, we'll have a few days left of this disaster pattern and hopefully a handle on how things shake out. There seems to be some model spread.

 

Absolutely...I have no desire for a huge nao that overwhelms and suppresses...I've learned at least that living up here. Keep Canada bitter, keep the SE ridge in play and give us an active southern stream.  I will be in London Jan 20-23...might be mighty cold and maybe snowy there.

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That doesn't seem right. It's 27 here. Check your sensor..It should only get into the low 30's in the hills today with CAA

 

Sensor's fine.  Just take a look at the map and you'll see I'm with many others in the area.

 

P/C high is 30, ZFP has upper 20's.   If I can nudge down a couple, I'll get there.  Not sure any CAA will offset diurnal heating.  Might just hold at this balmy temp instead.

 

33.5/26

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If I had a gun to my head...I would think we would be closer to riding the line. We may get cold, but at least IMHO...I'm not worried about suppression from cold air. East based -NAO with a SE ridge really isn't a recipe for suppression...it's closer to riding the line. Hopefully it means good snow, but I think we should wait until this weekend to see how things look. By that point, we'll have a few days left of this disaster pattern and hopefully a handle on how things shake out. There seems to be some model spread.

This is exactly how I feel. I think we return to a similar threading of the needle pattern. It'll probably be colder via climo but I'm not at all convinced the shift is to ice age winter. We have a week to see that unfold if its the case. My bet is the thrust is south from the Dakota's but cutting ne from there into se canada

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Scooter does the arctic front come thru Monday or Tuesday next week?

 

Euro guidance brings it in Monday and Monday night, while GFS brings it in Tuesday night into Wednesday. I'm on the later GFS camp, but I could see Tuesday as when the front perhaps sags south through SNE. Euro ensembles bring it through Monday, but the thermal fields sort of argue for a little lag with the cold air. IMHO, I would wait until at least Tuesday to be on the safe side. I could see some sort of wintry event next week..maybe a mixed bag of sorts? Could end on an active note.

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