Quakertown needs snow Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Cutting way west on the 12z euro u aren't kidding, cutter, secondary on coast coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptb127 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Cutting way west on the 12z euro When do the maps come out? Better yet, where can you see the maps update in real time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 When do the maps come out? Better yet, where can you see the maps update in real time? I pay for the euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goombatommy Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 When do the maps come out? Better yet, where can you see the maps update in real time? I just use the maps here on americanwx.com. They're slower but for free you can't complain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbourton Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Looks like the GFS scored a coup on this storm. Forecast-ed an earlier break down of the -NAO block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am19psu Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Looks like the GFS scored a coup on this storm. Forecast-ed a more eastern -NAO block. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbourton Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 ??? Edited -should never assume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazzo83 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Looks like the GFS scored a coup on this storm. Forecast-ed an earlier break down of the -NAO block. It's already March 20th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbourton Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 It's already March 20th? On the other side of the coin, rapidly rising NAO certainly begs the question of a significant storm somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainshadow Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Edited -should never assume You could go ahead and assume I'll miss the clutch 5 foot putt, that one is pretty safe. I don't think the Euro has been heads and tails over the GFS in our area recently, but a week out, one never knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 the euro shows the block moving west more slowly than it did on the 00z run. that's why it cuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbourton Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 You could go ahead and assume I'll miss the clutch 5 foot putt, that one is pretty safe. I don't think the Euro has been heads and tails over the GFS in our area recently, but a week out, one never knows... It feels good when you make one sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 One would assume we will see many different model run options during the next several days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbourton Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 One would assume we will see many different model run options during the next several days Geez youse guys are brutal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowanBrandon Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 You know what happens when you assume.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Road Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Cutting way west on the 12z euro so what you're saying is... time to go back to lurking in the GLOV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harbourton Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Euro 12Z ensemble still has low sliding under rather than cutting to the lakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted March 11, 2013 Share Posted March 11, 2013 Fwiw euro weeklies say what spring. -nao forever and ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Fwiw euro weeklies say what spring. -nao forever and ever Ugh...say it ain't so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Fwiw euro weeklies say what spring. -nao forever and ever sorry steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris L Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Fwiw euro weeklies say what spring. -nao forever and ever I guess that means Philly has a shot at April 1915. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Fwiw euro weeklies say what spring. -nao forever and ever MOrch ftw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankeex777 Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Euro says put the golf clubs away till April! GFS says the opposite (Not surprised) I'm currently unsure what do with my clubs at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HM Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 While there are 3 different systems on the OP GFS in the medium range with okay temperatures, their light nature isn't going to cut it (outside of elevations). This NAO blocking has turned into a slower-omega styled type of blocking while we are still in the process of retrograding hemispheric g.p.h. anomalies. Omega-styled blocking patterns can still produce wintry weather but they are not as conducive for significant snowstorms for us, esp. this time of year. They can still deliver for the interior and New England. We'll see what the 12z ECMWF/ensembles show but I thought the 00z EC ensembles were looking progressively +EPO/-NAO (more so than the op). This would keep the cool anomalies near the two coastal fourths and leave the middle two fourths warmer. It seems like the W. PAC convection is keeping the PNA sector negative through the foreseeable future. Does this mean we abandon the idea of a significant nor'easter yet sometime next week? No...though the chances are certainly not as good now that the blocking has changed structure. Was that -30c h85 temps I saw on the GFS in Canada coming up?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am19psu Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Come on, HM. The GFS is garbage in SNE, so we should just throw it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HM Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Come on, HM. The GFS is garbage in SNE, so we should just throw it out. lol Next week, like in early Feb, relies on a PV revolution along side of a developing blocking ridge. We are going to see numerous changes in its evolution. But, we won't have split flow like we did in Feb. When does the +PNA come back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am19psu Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 When does the +PNA come back? April 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 Come on, HM. The GFS is garbage in SNE, so we should just throw it out. The gfs fails in crunch time up in sne, all hale the snowiest computer output Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 12z euro has snow mon/tues with slider. phl / south could be temp issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HM Posted March 12, 2013 Share Posted March 12, 2013 April 1? Really tricky forecast over the next 60 days with the tropical forcing and where we are heading ENSO wise. If we stay in the phase 8-1-2-3-4 octants in terms of broad-scale tropical forcing, April will see generally cool weather / western ridging. Then throw in the date of the final warming. It seems destined to be late again, but when? Will it even matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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