dsaur Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I like what Tech is doing with Duke. If they can get over the being afraid and awed by the ACC, they can finish one of these big games. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POWERSTROKE Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Well a dud of a storm. At least we will get ice melt out in morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevo Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 So Andy Wood and I were in Saluda, NC with a quick burst of light snow. However we decided that since the storm was a bust, it was a prime opportunity to hunt Bigfoot. So at the end of this stinging snow experience, I hold on to this: Yes, the snow busted. But while everyone else was at home nursing disappointment and frustration, we're out looking for Sasquatch. What now!? #squatchin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG FROSTY Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 EPIC FAILURE here! And I figure the rest of winter will go down the same way!!! Your welcome for the rant... Now got to see if I can get my lawn mower started so I can mow next week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfalcon3522 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I'm in Winston Ga which is 34 miles east of Alabama/ Georgia line, straight down I-20 and outside of some token flakes mixed in with the rain today we got nothing Maybe next time! Congrats to everyone who cashed in! On the bright side I do get to use my NFC Championship ticket this weekend and watch our Atlanta Falcons punch the ticket to the Super Bowl. I'm not sure my heart can stand another game like last Sundays game. It was the most emotionally draining game I have been to as a 17 year season ticket holder! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalicwx366 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 You guys are seeing ridiculous rain fall totals. 5.5 holy moly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevo Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 You guys are seeing ridiculous rain fall totals. 5.5 holy moly! Dude - I need a gondola to get to my car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduwx Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Well this was a major fail but I really think some of us will see a good storm before winter is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Well this was a major fail but I really think some of us will see a good storm before winter is over. Yeah, I agree, very disappointing, oh well, just snow. Goes to show whenever we are borderline with temps it never ever pans out, but GSO through Roxboro are going to do very well, Wake County is going to bust majorly. Amazing what 30 mile difference is. I am litteraly 2 miles from heavy snow returns. And, I don't agree about another storm this winter. The SSW is a bust, whenever we have to rely on the stratosphere you know we are in trouble. This winter is very similar to last winter for our area. Last winter we had the one token 0.5" event, which is what this event will be. I think we are seasonal the rest of this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Alchemist Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 So Andy Wood and I were in Saluda, NC with a quick burst of light snow. However we decided that since the storm was a bust, it was a prime opportunity to hunt Bigfoot. So at the end of this stinging snow experience, I hold on to this: Yes, the snow busted. But while everyone else was at home nursing disappointment and frustration, we're out looking for Sasquatch. What now!? #squatchin So, that was you two walking through my yard... If I'd have known I'd have offered you a drink... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsaur Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 So Andy Wood and I were in Saluda, NC with a quick burst of light snow. However we decided that since the storm was a bust, it was a prime opportunity to hunt Bigfoot. So at the end of this stinging snow experience, I hold on to this: Yes, the snow busted. But while everyone else was at home nursing disappointment and frustration, we're out looking for Sasquatch. What now!? #squatchin Could you record your Squatch call? I've got some foxes out back I'd love to spook. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsaur Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I'm in Winston Ga which is 34 miles east of Alabama/ Georgia line, straight down I-20 and outside of some token flakes mixed in with the rain today we got nothing Maybe next time! Congrats to everyone who cashed in! On the bright side I do get to use my NFC Championship ticket this weekend and watch our Atlanta Falcons punch the ticket to the Super Bowl. I'm not sure my heart can stand another game like last Sundays game. It was the most emotionally draining game I have been to as a 17 year season ticket holder! I hope Smith locks them away 100 miles from New Orleans. I thought that was the smartest thing Denver did last time. HIde away the team. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevo Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 So, that was you two walking through my yard... If I'd have known I'd have offered you a drink... We thought we may have seen eye shine - but in retrospect, it could have been your porch light. Could you record your Squatch call? I've got some foxes out back I'd love to spook. T I tried to get Andy to do a call, but in the end it was me echoing a loud Bobo siren toward Pearson's Falls. My apologies to everyone between Tryon and Saluda, but especially to any Bigfoots that may have heard it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduwx Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Yeah, I agree, very disappointing, oh well, just snow. Goes to show whenever we are borderline with temps it never ever pans out, but GSO through Roxboro are going to do very well, Wake County is going to bust majorly. Amazing what 30 mile difference is. I am litteraly 2 miles from heavy snow returns. And, I don't agree about another storm this winter. The SSW is a bust, whenever we have to rely on the stratosphere you know we are in trouble. This winter is very similar to last winter for our area. Last winter we had the one token 0.5" event, which is what this event will be. I think we are seasonal the rest of this winter. This is the reason I was so against this storm. I got sucked into it yesterday but should of stood my ground. I've gotten burned on dynamic cooling before and it just doesn't ever work out for us. But I will say that ULL's do some crazy things and very hard to predict. As far as the rest of the winter goes I do agree we will be seasonal but I just think we'll be able to get good timing on one storm. I just would like to have a good ole SE snowstorm. A high to the north in perfect position and nice overrunning system coming up from the SE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 This is the reason I was so against this storm. I got sucked into it yesterday but should of stood my ground. I've gotten burned on dynamic cooling before and it just doesn't ever work out for us. But I will say that ULL's do some crazy things and very hard to predict. As far as the rest of the winter goes I do agree we will be seasonal but I just think we'll be able to get good timing on one storm. I just would like to have a good ole SE snowstorm. A high to the north in perfect position and nice overrunning system coming up from the SE. The more I think about it though, this was a pretty good storm, we won't see the 2-4" but folks just N/W will. We probably got another 1-2 hours of light snow, maybe we can squeak out an inch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Seems it is very hard these days to get a classic SE snowstorm. I think I did okay, but still thought it would be up to 4 or 5 inches until the last model run tonight. That is why it is so hard for me to trust the models. I want to because I want to see what they show when it looks good. But for some reason they have such a hard time with handling snow in NC outside the mountains. Not sure why it is so hard to forecast snow here, but it seems more difficult than other places in the country. It just appears that so much has to come together just right to get a good snowstorm. I guess the models have a hard time figuring all that out. I hope in the future we can depend on them more. Sometimes it seems we used to get more snow before we all started following thse storms online. Mabe the Carolina Crusher cursed us. That storm did way more than it was thought it would. Since then it seems 90% of our possible snowstorms underperform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 By the way, was that Carolina Crusher in Jan 2000 an ULL system with dynaimc cooling? Or was it another kind of system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stovepipe Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I've gotten burned on dynamic cooling before and it just doesn't ever work out for us. Dude. My location almost always gets burned on dynamic cooling. This afternoon was a once in a decade or so situation where it panned out. Keep the hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevo Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 This is the reason I was so against this storm. I got sucked into it yesterday but should of stood my ground. I've gotten burned on dynamic cooling before and it just doesn't ever work out for us. But I will say that ULL's do some crazy things and very hard to predict. As far as the rest of the winter goes I do agree we will be seasonal but I just think we'll be able to get good timing on one storm. I just would like to have a good ole SE snowstorm. A high to the north in perfect position and nice overrunning system coming up from the SE. Yep - I just said earlier that I was in line more with Marietta, and I bit on it. Oh well - it's not like there wasn't ample evidence though. Seems it is very hard these days to get a classic SE snowstorm. I think I did okay, but still thought it would be up to 4 or 5 inches until the last model run tonight. That is why it is so hard for me to trust the models. I want to because I want to see what they show when it looks good. But for some reason they have such a hard time with handling snow in NC outside the mountains. Not sure why it is so hard to forecast snow here, but it seems more difficult than other places in the country. It just appears that so much has to come together just right to get a good snowstorm. I guess the models have a hard time figuring all that out. I hope in the future we can depend on them more. Sometimes it seems we used to get more snow before we all started following thse storms online. Mabe the Carolina Crusher cursed us. That storm did way more than it was thought it would. Since then it seems 90% of our possible snowstorms underperform. Dude - everyone thinks the same thing regarding their area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoWeatherman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I'm just glad the sun is going to come out for a change. 7.11" of rain the last 7 days. I'm done with the clouds and rain for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoWeatherman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Not one flake of snow IMBY. Oh well...The last 3 ULL to produce snow in the SE...two have given me just rain while other get snow. The other one I got snow but the temp never hit freezing so others south of me got more. Booooo...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dfalcon3522 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I hope Smith locks them away 100 miles from New Orleans. I thought that was the smartest thing Denver did last time. HIde away the team. T Lol. As a life long falcons fan there are a few names or words that will make you sick to your stomach,#1-Eugene Robinsin,#2-1/4/81 allowing Dallas to come back and win that playoff game when we were the best team in the league that year, #3 3rd and 16 (Keith Brooking allowing the 1st down during the 08 playoff game to Arizona, #4 Bobby Petrino, #5 anything New Orleans! Thank God I didn't have to add Russel Wilson to that list last week. When Seattle punched in that final score last Sunday the only thing that was going thru my mind was NO NO NO not again, and where does this fit into my worst memories of all time with this team. Not for one second did I even think about the next 31 seconds. I left my seat and walked towards the stairs to head on down.... Something made me turn around and get back to my seat just in time to see #88 make that huge catch! There is nothing else in the world that can generate that type of emotional explosion by thousands of people at the same time! Hugging & high fiveing complete and total strangers like they were family! Thats what Sport is all about! I told my fiancé when I got home that Sunday this was the 2nd greatest day of my life (of course meeting her was number 1) but she knew I was blowing smoke at her. I think she falls in a tight 3rd! I mean come on man who could forget the exciment of 1998 and Mort Anderson kicking us to the Super Bowl! Yup its decided meeting my baby is a solid 3rd! Lol Thankfully she doesn't come here to read about weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Seems it is very hard these days to get a classic SE snowstorm. I think I did okay, but still thought it would be up to 4 or 5 inches until the last model run tonight. That is why it is so hard for me to trust the models. I want to because I want to see what they show when it looks good. But for some reason they have such a hard time with handling snow in NC outside the mountains. Not sure why it is so hard to forecast snow here, but it seems more difficult than other places in the country. It just appears that so much has to come together just right to get a good snowstorm. I guess the models have a hard time figuring all that out. I hope in the future we can depend on them more. Sometimes it seems we used to get more snow before we all started following thse storms online. Mabe the Carolina Crusher cursed us. That storm did way more than it was thought it would. Since then it seems 90% of our possible snowstorms underperform. I think the hardest things for computer models in the SE is that it doesn't happen much so they have less climo programming and correct setups vs other areas of the Northern USA. I have the same feelings you do about wanting to think a computer model, that our tax money goes to has a chance to be correct even 12 hours out. I remember last night the ULL progged for tonight was closed much longer etc.. even gave Lexington SC some snow on the ending bands.. well it wasn't until 10AM this morning it started moving slightly North and making it a one contour as the day went on. C'mon man! That's an 18 hr model. The Hi-Res Nam even failed. You are right so much has to come together for everything down here. If it didn't we would have snow commonly and it wouldn't be such an amazing event when it happens. Although I'm only 25, (not sure of your age) I remember getting the surprise snows at school and getting stuck down here in SC before I even knew what a upper level low, or gulf low, or phase meant. I miss those days. I think it's because if you don't expect anything and know nothing about weather, your hopes don't get let down as easily as if you saw the 500MB map of energy digging to spark that low in the gulf with cold air already in place that ends up just going "poof" 24 hours before an event. I could get on a whole different topic on the tax and American weather models, but I'll leave it at this: We don't fund things like weather models but instead waste our money on garbage instead. The weather effects everyone everywhere, unlike many other things *cough* guns *cough* but yeah. The Euro is more accurate because it's funded by universities, science groups, and weather lovers. The Euro is a model that isn't strictly funded by government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoWeatherman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Lesson learned...you can't completely ignore model sounding even if the synoptics look perfect. In GA almost no soundings supported snow yet expectations were raised that dynamics would win out. Just not the case this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Lesson learned...you can't completely ignore model sounding even if the synoptics look perfect. In GA almost no soundings supported snow yet expectations were raised that dynamics would win out. Just not the case this time. Moto you were 100% correct on postings leading to this event about soundings especially for N.GA. Nobody wanted to listen but the truth was in the data. I got raked through the coals on a few forums talking about how even ATL wouldn't get anything due to the temp profiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Lesson learned...you can't completely ignore model sounding even if the synoptics look perfect. In GA almost no soundings supported snow yet expectations were raised that dynamics would win out. Just not the case this time. The key being this time, it has certainly happened before. I don't envy you guys that have to forecast snow in the south. The big storms are so infrequent that people really remember every forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalicwx366 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I knew it wouldn't snow in ATL. That's why I asked why they had a WSW yesterday. The models showed the snow hole over NE GA clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoWeatherman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Moto you were 100% correct on postings leading to this event about soundings especially for N.GA. Nobody wanted to listen but the truth was in the data. I got raked through the coals on a few forums talking about how even ATL wouldn't get anything due to the temp profiles. The key being this time, it has certainly happened before. I don't envy you guys that have to forecast snow in the south. The big storms are so infrequent that people really remember every forecast. The nail in the coffin for north ga was likely the QPF. Soundings said no so we needed strong dynamics with high QPF amounts to cool the column from the top down. My QPF after 5pm was less than .10" which just won't get it done. I think the dry slot ruined the whole thing as it took a while for the UVV's to regenerate the precip across north ga. By then it was too late as everything was done imby by 8pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoWeatherman Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I knew it wouldn't snow in ATL. That's why I asked why they had a WSW yesterday. The models showed the snow hole over NE GA clearly. Clearly they thought Synoptics would win out. But not this time...unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsaur Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 We thought we may have seen eye shine - but in retrospect, it could have been your porch light. I tried to get Andy to do a call, but in the end it was me echoing a loud Bobo siren toward Pearson's Falls. My apologies to everyone between Tryon and Saluda, but especially to any Bigfoots that may have heard it. I just found out Rosamund Pike was in World's End. Makes it even better. I think I'd have a chance with her! She likes older men that are characters..or, was that.. with character ..hmmmm....oh, well, looking better all the time. Paul's coming on again in a few minutes. Gonna go laugh myself to sleep, lol. I got all my rain last night and pretty much just drizzle today. It was cold enough to do something if it had been raining down here. All the juice went north, and pulled out. A more southerly route would have helped hold the moisture for Ga. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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