The First Week of Jan..Bitter cold,Balls drop as we ring in 2013

[Sugarloaf1989]

There were questions yesterday

Depth is 7-10"

[Quincy]

Helpful image for Connecticut elevation:
Source: Geology.com

[NJwinter23]

Yes, a stout -EPO ridge over the PAC with a trough over the inter-mountain west would def teleconnect to a SE ridge and a gradient pattern over the northeast. How far north or south that gradient is would just be at the mercy of whatever NAO ridging we get and/or large PV lobes spreading SE into eastern Canada from Hudson Bay.

 

 

I'm cautiously optimistic for a nice period at some point later this month...hard to say exactly when it comes in. The Ensembles are looking more and more faovrable for an extended -EPO period...but we know how things can always change when we are 10+ days out.

 

Will,

 

I couldnt help but notice the end of the euro ensembles last night lowering the heights over alaska with a tendency to drift the PV in that direction. That would suck! Any thoughts on that ?

[mattb65]

Nice.  3 cutters on the GFS thru day 16.

 

To me that's a good sign, it shows a return of storminess.

 

Reminds me of runs in  december when we had a bunch of GFS runs that showed cutter after cutter after cutter, and a bunch of weenies were cancelling/punting on december.  In reality we had a big cutter then a redeveloper then a coastal.

[ORH_wxman]

Lunch time temps:

 

 

BOS: 19F

ORH: 15F

BDL: 17F

PVD: 20F

 

 

 

GFS MOS yesterday FTW. (when it lopped off a ton on today's highs)

[Damage In Tolland]

what needs tweaking? NWesternmost Harwinton needs to be in the 70-80? haha

Dude why are you so upset about what you avg? It's snowy , just not any snowier than NE Ct. Accept and move on

[Damage In Tolland]

I truly believe IJD and southeast is the worst snow area in all of SNE. Some way or another that area gets screwed just about every single snowfall event. Whether its temps, SE winds, down sloping, something bad always happens there

[ORH_wxman]

I truly believe IJD and southeast is the worst snow area in all of SNE. Some way or another that area gets screwed just about every single snowfall event. Whether its temps, SE winds, down sloping, something bad always happens there

 

 

 

Yeah they are pretty terrible. However, they had quite the run from March 2009 through January 2011 in getting jackpotted or near jackpotted in several events. That was a rare streak.

[Ginx snewx]

I truly believe IJD and southeast is the worst snow area in all of SNE. Some way or another that area gets screwed just about every single snowfall event. Whether its temps, SE winds, down sloping, something bad always happens there

 

Some of those areas just jackpotted again.

[moneypitmike]

_{It took until afternoon, but I finally broke 10*.}

 

_10.6/-4

[Quincy]

Southeastern CT can be sneaky. It doesn't happen a lot, but some storms that whiff the interior get just close enough to sock the area. Even then, temperatures can sometimes be an issue.

[Damage In Tolland]

Yeah they are pretty terrible. However, they had quite the run from March 2009 through January 2011 in getting jackpotted or near jackpotted in several events. That was a rare streak.

Yeah there was one or two storms they did. I remember one storm Norwich had like 20 inches. And I had like 8. But I would rather be on ACK than there most times

[MaineJayhawk]

To me that's a good sign, it shows a return of storminess.

 

Reminds me of runs in  december when we had a bunch of GFS runs that showed cutter after cutter after cutter, and a bunch of weenies were cancelling/punting on december.  In reality we had a big cutter then a redeveloper then a coastal.

 

Agree with this.  Let's get some storms in here and we'll figure out later where they're going.

[OSUmetstud]

SE CT has the least amount of snow in SNE on average, I think.  Don't some parts average lower than Cape Cod?

 

 

[moneypitmike]

SE CT has the least amount of snow in SNE on average, I think.  Don't some parts average lower than Cape Cod?

 

I'd bet within 5 miles of the coast from NL through Westerly is the absolute worst place to be for the snow lover. So says this NLHS member of the class of '84.   At least on the Cape you can get hit my the coastal giant that is passing to the east of everyone else.

[CT Rain]

I'd bet within 5 miles of the coast from NL through Westerly is the absolute worst place to be for the snow lover. So says this NLHS member of the class of '84.   At least on the Cape you can get hit my the coastal giant that is passing to the east of everyone else.

 

Yeah it's tough there.

 

It's funny the difference along the shoreline. Coastal New Haven County is a world of difference from places like Old Saybrook and especially New London.

 

Milford-Guilford >30" while areas to the east start ticking down from there.

[ORH_wxman]

Just about all of the Cape averages over 30"...so yeah, SE CT near the coast is definitely worse. They average in the low to mid 20s right on the water.

[Damage In Tolland]

I bet even IJD avg is under 30 inches. Awful

[CT Rain]

Could the GFS be any more horrific?

[CT Rain]

I bet even IJD avg is under 30 inches. Awful

 

No way.

 

I averaged something like 33" in Guilford so there's no way they were sub-30.

[ORH_wxman]

No way.

 

I averaged something like 33" in Guilford so there's no way they were sub-30.

 

Yeah that would be nearly impossible. They are too far inland. Even the Mansfield Hollow coop near them with pretty cruddy snowfall data averaged 37". In reality IJD probably is in the 40s.

[CT Rain]

Yeah that would be nearly impossible. They are too far inland. Even the Mansfield Hollow coop near them with pretty cruddy snowfall data averaged 37". In reality IJD probably is in the 40s.

 

Yeah probably close to 40 I'm sure.

 

I think New Haven is low 30s as well... with the little weenie max on the CT shoreline.

[SouthCoastMA]

My hometown of Wareham, from the winter of 2005/2006 to 2011/2012 has averaged 35.3" of snow..which sounds about right. That may or may not drop after this season...If i include the anomalous 2004/2005 season, it jumps up to 46.4" lol..but i think the last 6 seasons are fairly representative of our average. Remember, we didnt' quite make out as well as the interior in the huge 2010/2011 season, albeit still + average.

[OSUmetstud]

Could the GFS be any more horrific?

 

how so?  are you just talking about the well-advertised above normal pattern or what happens after?  It averages colder than normal over the east post-216 hours.

[Clinch Leatherwood]

how so?  are you just talking about the well-advertised above normal pattern or what happens after?  It averages colder than normal over the east post-216 hours.

 

Haven't looked at anything until today.

 

This looks like winter as advertised.  We thaw out for a bit and then go back to the pattern we had at the end of December with threats that may or may not break right for SNE, but deliver for CNE and NNE.  I'm not sure why everyone is bridge jumping. 

[Ginx snewx]

Not too many folks understand that in SE CT and SW RI which do not have substantial record keeping, other than URI in Kingston and GON, that snow depths increase dramatically about 2 miles from the ocean. We used to use the terminal moraine as a break point, more often than not the marine air line was there in marginal situations. Perhaps the worst area of all would be the Point Judith to Newport RI area, as we see from some posters Narry Bay is a snow eater. Having said that the very best storms of my life were as a combo of wind,snow and surf right on the open ocean. My favorite totally immersed weather sensation is seeing 10-15 foot waves with winds gusting near hurricane force in Blizzard conditions.

[OSUmetstud]

Dare I say the extended doesn't look bad for lake-effect.

 

 

[Ginx snewx]

Could the GFS be any more horrific?

 

Yes it could be, I would hit this all day every day, tanking AO positive PNA, Neg AO, bring it on

[OSUmetstud]

yeah coastal locations are pretty awesome when it actually decides to snow.

 

I loved that SUNY Oswego was right on the water...we probably lost 20, maybe 40" average snowfall because of it...but the windstorms...local blizzards and 20 ft waves made up for it.

 

 

 

 

[OSUmetstud]

Also, the les right on the shoreline tends to have more mixed phase processes going on before it glaciates farther inland.  You tend to get more thundersnow.