The First Week of Jan..Bitter cold,Balls drop as we ring in 2013

[HIPPYVALLEY]

According to Greenfield DPW the average here for the past 25 years is 56".

[ORH_wxman]

I've been all over the state this week and the snow pack out here is definitely more substantial than anything else I've seen.  Parts of N Worcester Co. might have had more snow total  but last thursday's system dropped 10-14" of dense, low ratio snow from C Franklin Co. W to the Berks.

 

Your higher totals from Dec 27 will def help you out. I doubt those other spots lose it though...they still have 4-7" of that dense stuff underneath the fluffier snow. Just not the 10" of dense snow that you guys got. Regardless, we'll see what it looks like in 10 days.

[Quincy]

60-70 here

 

It's low end, perhaps just over 60. I'm trying to see if I can find data for the Mansfield Hollow coop location.

[Clinch Leatherwood]

I've been all over the state this week and the snow pack out here is definitely more substantial than anything else I've seen.  Parts of N Worcester Co. might have had more snow total  but last thursday's system dropped 10-14" of dense, low ratio snow from C Franklin Co. W to the Berks.

 

I just drove up 95 to Portland, up 26 to Sunday River.  Took the road from SR to North Conway, then down 16 to 95 and home.  I thought the snow cover was pretty light from around Marshfield all the way up through Portsmouth.  Heck even in North Conway there are fields where the snow sublimated to bare ground by yesterday.  It's thicker up towards Bretton Woods, thicker back by Sunday River and in the passes but I bet no more than 8-12"

 

Covered yes, but as I drove around NH and ME I kept thinking this is what it used to look like in SNE in a decent winter, not NNE.

[Cold Miser]

Can we change the subtitle of this thread?

 

What the hell does "gin up a snow event mean"?  I fell like the word "nape" needs to be thrown in there somewhere.

[ORH_wxman]

It's low end, perhaps just over 60. I'm trying to see if I can find data for the Mansfield Hollow coop location.

 

Elevation at the coop is only 250 feet. So probably not very good for trying to get snowfall in the hills. I think that coop also has fragmented snow data, so the average is probably low to begin with. The southbridge coop in MA just over the border at 700 feet averages around 55"..with a bit of missing data, so realistically its probably closer to 60".

[Cold Miser]

FWIW, an approximate map for average annual snowfall across Connecticut. (not sure if I posted this before)

 

The coast = mid Atlantic

[Quincy]

Elevation at the coop is only 250 feet. So probably not very good for trying to get snowfall in the hills. I think that coop also has fragmented snow data, so the average is probably low to begin with. The southbridge coop in MA just over the border at 700 feet averages around 55"..with a bit of missing data, so realistically its probably closer to 60".

 

I wish I had kept more data when I lived in Woodstock, CT. The snowfall there was almost always significantly more than areas in say Willimantic and Mansfield. With that said, go over to the Union higher elevations and the amounts were even more impressive.

[ORH_wxman]

I just drove up 95 to Portland, up 26 to Sunday River.  Took the road from SR to North Conway, then down 16 to 95 and home.  I thought the snow cover was pretty light from around Marshfield all the way up through Portsmouth.  Heck even in North Conway there are fields where the snow sublimated to bare ground by yesterday.  It's thicker up towards Bretton Woods, thicker back by Sunday River and in the passes but I bet no more than 8-12"

 

Covered yes, but as I drove around NH and ME I kept thinking this is what it used to look like in SNE in a decent winter, not NNE.

 

 

Climo for snow depth in ORH (1961-1990 as snow depth was discontinued in 1994) at 1,000 feet for the beginning of January is just a shade over 3 inches. For CON, its closer to 5". For Bridgton, ME its around 8".

 

I'd say you had a nice ride on the wintry side of climo.

 

 

Those numbers would be low if you take that ride on Feb 1st instead, for sure.

[mahk_webstah]

Well to be fair...a potential gradient pattern where the trough is focused over the mountain west is far from "safe"....it risks cutters. Its a high risk, high reward pattern. You can end up with a lot of snow events and stay cold, or you could very realistically end up with 3 cutters in a row. One reason we'll root for the NAO to get more and more negative...press that gradient south to make it more unlikely we see a cutter.

 

OK I'll alllow a weak to moderate -NAO

[Clinch Leatherwood]

Climo for snow depth in ORH (1961-1990 as snow depth was discontinued in 1994) at 1,000 feet for the beginning of January is just a shade over 3 inches. For CON, its closer to 5". For Bridgton, ME its around 8".

 

I'd say you had a nice ride on the wintry side of climo.

 

 

Those numbers would be low if you take that ride on Feb 1st instead, for sure.

 

It's wall to wall snowcover on the way home.  Makes sense, for some reason I thought climo depth was higher this time of year up north.

 

What was shocking Will was the lack of ice anywhere.  By yesterday morning the river that runs just west of downtown North Conway was starting to freeze but still, wow.

[Sugarloaf1989]

It's wall to wall snowcover on the way home.  Makes sense, for some reason I thought climo depth was higher this time of year up north.

 

What was shocking Will was the lack of ice anywhere.  By yesterday morning the river that runs just west of downtown North Conway was starting to freeze but still, wow.

Same thing here with the unique combination of deep snowpack and just recently frozen over lakes/ponds that have no snowcover on them at all. Usually it's the opposite.

[Ginx snewx]

The hills in Woodstock are definitely king weenie land in the quiet corner of NE CT. Great retention area too.

[ORH_wxman]

Same thing here with the unique combination of deep snowpack and just recently frozen over lakes/ponds that have no snowcover on them at all. Usually it's the opposite.

 

These past couple nights must have done a number finally on the lakes/ponds. The Charles River was mostly frozen when I saw on the train into Boston this morning. I can't imagine it had any frozen on it just a couple days ago.

[Damage In Tolland]

CT river had quite a bit of ice on it this morning when I drove over the Charter Oak

[Sugarloaf1989]

These past couple nights must have done a number finally on the lakes/ponds. The Charles River was mostly frozen when I saw on the train into Boston this morning. I can't imagine it had any frozen on it just a couple days ago.

My town's largest lake just started freezing over on sunday. I've not seen it since, but it's probably close to 100% frozen by now. This is about 2-3 weeks behind schedule. The local ponds here have been freezing/thawing since late November.

[Sugarloaf1989]

CT river had quite a bit of ice on it this morning when I drove over the Charter Oak

 

Why did you ask for a snowcover depth measurement?

[ChrisM]

It's low end, perhaps just over 60. I'm trying to see if I can find data for the Mansfield Hollow coop location.

 

That will not even come close to comparing to Kevin.  Mansfield Hollow is basically IJD...downslope capital of CT.  I also disagree with the Salisbury area on that map...they probably get downsloped pretty bad too off those 2-2.5k hills to the west.

[Damage In Tolland]

Why did you ask for a snowcover depth measurement?

There were questions yesterday

[ChrisM]

That CT map isn't all that accurate. There's a lot on there that needs tweaking.

 

what needs tweaking?  NWesternmost Harwinton needs to be in the 70-80? haha

[Mr Torchey]

man what a day, hope everyone is outside as much as they can enjoying it, sun feels great, nice dry air and the wood is splitting with ease.

 

 

[Sugarloaf1989]

That will not even come close to comparing to Kevin.  Mansfield Hollow is basically IJD...downslope capital of CT.  I also disagree with the Salisbury area on that map...they probably get downsloped pretty bad too off those 2-2.5k hills to the west.

Yeah Mansfield/ Willimantic suck for snow.

[Quincy]

That will not even come close to comparing to Kevin.  Mansfield Hollow is basically IJD...downslope capital of CT.  I also disagree with the Salisbury area on that map...they probably get downsloped pretty bad too off those 2-2.5k hills to the west.

 

Keyword approximate map, definitely some room to look closer at individual town details.

 

The feedback helps.

[weathafella]

I'm surprised at how much I'm enjoying the cold. Loving it!

[Mr Torchey]

I'm surprised at how much I'm enjoying the cold. Loving it!

 

Warmer down here, but full sunshine light winds and very dry air, makes it more than bearable. Enjoy Fella

[ChrisM]

Keyword approximate map, definitely some room to look closer at individual town details.

 

The feedback helps.

 

I just thought you meant that you would look at Mansfield to compare to Kevin.  The map looks good but that comparison would literally be like 30" different I think.  Mansfield Hollow is at like 200' (I THINK) and really downsloped.

[Baroclinic Zone]

Nice.  3 cutters on the GFS thru day 16.

[Cold Miser]

There were questions yesterday

 

lol.  Aren't there always snow depth "questions" and non believers around here?

[Sugarloaf1989]

I just thought you meant that you would look at Mansfield to compare to Kevin.  The map looks good but that comparison would literally be like 30" different I think.  Mansfield Hollow is at like 200' (I THINK) and really downsloped.

The elevation is about 200' on the Coventry/Mansfield line. Mansfield Hollow is probably about the same height.

[Quincy]

I just thought you meant that you would look at Mansfield to compare to Kevin.  The map looks good but that comparison would literally be like 30" different I think.  Mansfield Hollow is at like 200' (I THINK) and really downsloped.

 

Mansfield could be used to compare to the values I assigned up there, but without complete data, it probably wouldn't help much.