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Ensembles and weeklies have the cold (a little warm blip later next week but still chilly) until the 2nd/3rd week of February, stormy during this time too. After that looks like winter is about done (moderates).

 

I'm excited to see some ice on the Susky this weekend!

 

That's true.  Give this airmass 2 - 3 days and there should be a nice layer of ice.  I actually was able to walk about 1/2 way out during 2007 after the Valentine's Day storm.  That was a surreal event.  

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That's true.  Give this airmass 2 - 3 days and there should be a nice layer of ice.  I actually was able to walk about 1/2 way out during 2007 after the Valentine's Day storm.  That was a surreal event.  

A surreal Susq. river story.. during the winter of 96, when all the ice started coming down the river (when it tore the bridge down) My FD covers an area that runs along the Susky, during that time we evac all those homes. At one point during the night, we had a call at one of those homes. We had to walk, carrying all of our gear down to this house over that ice. It was pitch dark except for the moon light and it was very quiet except for the sounds of the ice, it was almost hair raising.

 

I may be totally wrong here, but weren't the blizzards of 93 and 96 both miller b?

 

http://berkswintercast.tripod.com/id85.html

I thought this as well?

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I may be totally wrong here, but weren't the blizzards of 93 and 96 both miller b?

 

http://berkswintercast.tripod.com/id85.html

I'm positive the superstorm was a Miller A....it originated in the central gulf and gave snow to the gulf states then all the way up the east coast.  As for Jan'96 I'm less sure about that but I don't think is was Miller B.

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I may be totally wrong here, but weren't the blizzards of 93 and 96 both miller b?

 

http://berkswintercast.tripod.com/id85.html

 

The 1993 superstorm was a textbook miller A. In fact, that's pretty much the storm all Miller A's are compared to. 1996 was also a miller A, but did not ride the coast as classically as the 1993 storm. Miller A storms form in the south or GOM and ride NNE up along the coast. Miller B storms usually move ENE until near the coast where they make a more northerly turn. Miller B storms do have a "rip off" zone where the energy jumps over and transfers to the coast. That's the fear with this storm.

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LES is kicking up today in NY.

New York

‎* Lake Effect Snow Warnings in effect for...

1) Oswego County until 10am Wed. An additional 14-27" on top of what has already fallen, with 9-18" today and 5-9" tonight.

2) Monroe, Wayne & northern Cayuga Counties from 10am Tues to 10am Wed. An additional 12-20" on top of what has already fallen, with 6-10" today, 5-7" tonight, and 1-3" Wed.

3) Niagara & Orleans Counties from 10am Tues to 10am Wed. An additional 9-16" on top of what has already fallen, with 4-8" today, 4-6" tonight, and 1-2" Wed.

4) Onondaga & Madison Counties from 10am Tues to 7am Wed. An additional 7-11" on top of what has already fallen, mostly north of the Thruway.

5) Oneida County until 7am Wed. An additional 7-11" of snow on top of what has already fallen.

6) Chautauqua & southern Erie Counties until 7pm tonight. An additional 5-9" today.

7) Wyoming & Cattaraugus Counties until 7pm tonight. An additional 4-8" today.

8) Lewis County until 4pm today. An additional 6-12" today.

- If your county is not listed under the Lake Effect Snow Warnings above, then your county is not currently under a Lake Effect Snow Warning.

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Miller Bs are enemies of Central Pa...rooting against that solution. Its sad but a chance of 12 for 2001kx or I,would be historic.

Dry slot...grrrr

 

 

A surreal Susq. river story.. during the winter of 96, when all the ice started coming down the river (when it tore the bridge down) My FD covers an area that runs along the Susky, during that time we evac all those homes. At one point during the night, we had a call at one of those homes. We had to walk, carrying all of our gear down to this house over that ice. It was pitch dark except for the moon light and it was very quiet except for the sounds of the ice, it was almost hair raising.

 

I thought this as well?

The Susky ice memory I have is in 77 I went to York Haven with my father and mother to see it. My dad wanted to show me it. I was 9 at the time. Never forget the sounds, creaking and like people moaning, then noises like a gunshot or firecracker. The ice was moving fairly fast and I watched in amazement as it ripped the front clean off two bungalows along the river with a loud crash.

 

There are some remarkable historic pics here; http://www.yorkblog.com/yorktownsquare/2008/08/26/i-take-it-your-father/

 

If anyone is interested, our new graphics system debuts on WeatherWorld this afternoon.  Over the past couple months, nearly everything has been recreated minus the studio. Also switching to 16:9 format, which will please those with HDTVs, although not at HD resolution. 

 

Cool! What system are you using? I used to write the documentation for Galileo when I worked at AccuWeather. 

 

The 1993 superstorm was a textbook miller A. In fact, that's pretty much the storm all Miller A's are compared to. 1996 was also a miller A, but did not ride the coast as classically as the 1993 storm. Miller A storms form in the south or GOM and ride NNE up along the coast. Miller B storms usually move ENE until near the coast where they make a more northerly turn. Miller B storms do have a "rip off" zone where the energy jumps over and transfers to the coast. That's the fear with this storm.

Yeah, definitely was.

 

A good example of a Miller B is the 83 blizzard.

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Cool! What system are you using? I used to write the documentation for Galileo when I worked at AccuWeather. 

 

TruVu Max.  We do another show that airs on CNET Channel 7 using Galileo.  But we're making the switch there as well... in fact the Galileo just got wheeled out a few hours ago.  I must say I'm not sad about it. haha. The system is a wee bit outdated and I felt like I was on the phone with AccuWx support about every week.

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TruVu Max.  We do another show that airs on CNET Channel 7 using Galileo.  But we're making the switch there as well... in fact the Galileo just got wheeled out a few hours ago.  I must say I'm not sad about it. haha. The system is a wee bit outdated and I felt like I was on the phone with AccuWx support about every week.

Yeah, they got rid of a really good graphics person after I left and Galileo suffered for it. Have heard good things about TruVu Max. 

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Pretty cold, but progressive flow looks to persist across the Commonwealth of PA and New York State over the next 5 - 7 days.  Outside of the lake effect region, any organized snow threat should be from quick hitting clippers that drop 1" - 4" of snow.  I do think a storm will impact locations south of I-80 Friday, but with it being moisture starved and no downstream blocking it is an advisory level event at best.  Thee preponderance of American and global numerical guidance continues to suggest the system never truly gets it's act together until the storm is offshore and rotates around the long wave trough over eastern Canada.  Plus the antecedent is incredibly dry which could equate to a portion of the storm being virga.  Wish I had better news, but any widepsread warning event snowfall seems highly unlikely during the remainder of this winter in Pennsylvania

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