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January 2013 General Discussion


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I wonder how CLE did? Or CMH? If there was a blind spot with Jan 99 Ohio is your likely location.

 

CMH had snow until noon-ish on the 2nd, then went over to rain in the evening. 6.6" storm total snow.

 

http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KCMH/1999/1/2/DailyHistory.html'>http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KCMH/1999/1/2/DailyHistory.html

 

CLE had the kitchen sink, before turning to rain late on the 2nd. 4.6" storm total snow.

 

http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KCLE/1999/1/2/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA'>http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KCLE/1999/1/2/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA

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CMH had snow until noon-ish on the 2nd, then went over to rain in the evening. 6.6" storm total snow.

 

http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KCMH/1999/1/2/DailyHistory.html

 

CLE had the kitchen sink, before turning to rain late on the 2nd. 4.6" storm total snow.

 

http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KCLE/1999/1/2/DailyHistory.html?req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA

 

I remember that one very well.  With such deep expansive arctic air in place, the storm was able to give us virtually all snow even though it cut well to our west.  By the time upper levels warmed the precipitation had basically ended.   Right around nightfall we went to drizzle, but it really wasn't even enough to hurt snow depth.    Had it remained all snow, we might have had an inch more, but that would be about it. 

 

I live north of cmh airport where measurements are recorded...here in westerville it was much closer to about 9"

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I remember that one very well.  With such deep expansive arctic air in place, the storm was able to give us virtually all snow even though it cut well to our west.  By the time upper levels warmed the precipitation had basically ended.   Right around nightfall we went to drizzle, but it really wasn't even enough to hurt snow depth.    Had it remained all snow, we might have had an inch more, but that would be about it. 

 

I live north of cmh airport where measurements are recorded...here in westerville it was much closer to about 9"

 

Pretty remarkable storm really. 14" in LAF despite the low going overhead...and never came close to freezing. Probably won't see an exact duplicate of that storm for a very long time. 

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To be honest, I don't even recall it. Probably a snow to slop to rain back to snow event here, which would explain why I'm not remembering it very well.

6.6" in Columbus, which is far more than we would've normally got with a track that far west of us, but there was a lot of cold air ahead of it that kept it snow for awhile. Ultimately, though, it turned to ice.

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izzi is just trolling snow lovers now...pulling hard for 60

 

BRIEF SHOT OF ALMOST LAUGHABLE COLD AIR ADVECTION SUNDAY BEFORE WE
TRANSITION TO WHAT APPEARS TO BE AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF MUCH ABOVE
AVERAGE TEMPERATURES. SPLIT FLOW REGIME IS LIKELY TO PERSIST WITH
ALL MEDIUM RANGE MODELS IN GREAT AGREEMENT WITH RISING LOW/MID LEVEL
HEIGHTS AND SIGNIFICANT WARM AIR ADVECTION AS MILD PACIFIC AIR COMES
STREAMING EAST INTO THE AREA. A SYNOPTIC COMPOSITE OF THE 15 TIMES
WE`VE CLIMBED INTO THE 50S BETWEEN JAN 5-15 SINCE 1979 SHOWS THAT
850MB TEMPS HAVE AVERAGED AROUND 5-6C...WITH 925MB TEMPS AVERAGING
AROUND 7C WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE VALUES THE MEDIUM RANGE
MODELS HAVE BEEN ADVERTISING VERY CONSISTENTLY FOR DAYS ON END NOW
FOR NEXT WEEK. IN FACT...BY WEDNESDAY NEXT WEEK BOTH THE GFS AND
ECMWF ARE FORECAST 925MB/850MB TEMPERATURES CLOSE TO LEVELS THAT
ARE TYPICAL WITH THE 8 TIMES CHICAGO HAS REACH 60F IN JANUARY SINCE
1979. GIVEN THE STRONG AND CONSISTENT SIGNAL FOR WARMTH IN THE
MODELS AND THEIR PROPENSITY TO HAVE A STRONG COLD BIAS WITH SFC
TEMPS DURING WARM SPELLS IN THE EXTENDED...PARTICULARLY IN THE
WINTER...HAVE GONE WELL ABOVE ALL NUMERICAL GUIDANCE GOING WITH
HIGHS WELL INTO THE 40S MON AND TUES THEN INTO THE LOWER 50S MOST
AREAS BY WEDNESDAY. WORTH NOTING THAT WHILE THESE VALUES ARE 10F+
ABOVE MOS AND 20F+ ABOVE CLIMO THEY ARE STILL CONSERVATIVE AND IF
CURRENT MODEL GUIDANCE IS ANYWHERE CLOSE TO BEING IN THE BALLPARK OF
WHAT VERIFIES THEN NEAR RECORD HIGHS (MID 50S FOR RFD AND NEAR 60F
FOR CHI) WOULD BE POSSIBLE. TIME PERMITTING WILL TRY AND POST SOME
IMAGES OF THE SYNOPTIC COMPOSITES I REFERRED TO ABOVE ON OUR OFFICE
FACEBOOK PAGE THIS MORNING
(HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/US.NATIONALWEATHERSERVICE.CHICAGO.GOV).

 

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Pretty remarkable storm really. 14" in LAF despite the low going overhead...and never came close to freezing. Probably won't see an exact duplicate of that storm for a very long time. 

 

yep, definitely a share the wealth storm.  That's pretty much the set up you need to have in place.   Very deep expansive arctic air out ahead of it so places left of the low can cash in on front end thumping.

 

I believe PDII was a share the wealth storm as well.  At least the first part where snow streaked out across IA, IL, IN and OH.    We picked up about 6 inches from the first bout with that one, and then got the second dose when the southern low formed and moved northeast off the MA coast about 48 hrs later.

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is just trolling snow lovers now...pulling hard for 60

BRIEF SHOT OF ALMOST LAUGHABLE COLD AIR ADVECTION SUNDAY BEFORE WE

TRANSITION TO WHAT APPEARS TO BE AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF MUCH ABOVE

AVERAGE TEMPERATURES. SPLIT FLOW REGIME IS LIKELY TO PERSIST WITH

ALL MEDIUM RANGE MODELS IN GREAT AGREEMENT WITH RISING LOW/MID LEVEL

HEIGHTS AND SIGNIFICANT WARM AIR ADVECTION AS MILD PACIFIC AIR COMES

STREAMING EAST INTO THE AREA. A SYNOPTIC COMPOSITE OF THE 15 TIMES

WE`VE CLIMBED INTO THE 50S BETWEEN JAN 5-15 SINCE 1979 SHOWS THAT

850MB TEMPS HAVE AVERAGED AROUND 5-6C...WITH 925MB TEMPS AVERAGING

AROUND 7C WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE VALUES THE MEDIUM RANGE

MODELS HAVE BEEN ADVERTISING VERY CONSISTENTLY FOR DAYS ON END NOW

FOR NEXT WEEK. IN FACT...BY WEDNESDAY NEXT WEEK BOTH THE GFS AND

ECMWF ARE FORECAST 925MB/850MB TEMPERATURES CLOSE TO LEVELS THAT

ARE TYPICAL WITH THE 8 TIMES CHICAGO HAS REACH 60F IN JANUARY SINCE

1979. GIVEN THE STRONG AND CONSISTENT SIGNAL FOR WARMTH IN THE

MODELS AND THEIR PROPENSITY TO HAVE A STRONG COLD BIAS WITH SFC

TEMPS DURING WARM SPELLS IN THE EXTENDED...PARTICULARLY IN THE

WINTER...HAVE GONE WELL ABOVE ALL NUMERICAL GUIDANCE GOING WITH

HIGHS WELL INTO THE 40S MON AND TUES THEN INTO THE LOWER 50S MOST

AREAS BY WEDNESDAY. WORTH NOTING THAT WHILE THESE VALUES ARE 10F+

ABOVE MOS AND 20F+ ABOVE CLIMO THEY ARE STILL CONSERVATIVE AND IF

CURRENT MODEL GUIDANCE IS ANYWHERE CLOSE TO BEING IN THE BALLPARK OF

WHAT VERIFIES THEN NEAR RECORD HIGHS (MID 50S FOR RFD AND NEAR 60F

FOR CHI) WOULD BE POSSIBLE. TIME PERMITTING WILL TRY AND POST SOME

IMAGES OF THE SYNOPTIC COMPOSITES I REFERRED TO ABOVE ON OUR OFFICE

FACEBOOK PAGE THIS MORNING

(HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/US.NATIONALWEATHERSERVICE.CHICAGO.GOV).

Classic.

Not much will save this snowpack. Best to just start fresh and get rid of all the dirt piles of snow.

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Wow, 2"/hr rates? The mesolow obviously came as far west as you. I'd say I have maybe 1/2 and inch here in Etobicoke.

Maybe a smidgen more.

Yeah, I was surprised when the snow band over Lake Ontario decided to move in Toronto around midnight. A few hours ago, it looked like the band would move into the Niagara region, but I guess the flow turned easterly at the last second to allow the band to reverse gears and move north. All in all, I'd say a couple of inches fell.

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12z GFS is much more tame with the torch next week it seems. And it still shows the artic opening up for business. I know the long reange resoloution sucks but after the artic front passes through the subforum it looks like many chances for quick hitting clippers all the way to the end of the run. Clippers can be pretty good at spreading the wealth and kicking off LES.

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izzi is just trolling snow lovers now...pulling hard for 60

 

BRIEF SHOT OF ALMOST LAUGHABLE COLD AIR ADVECTION SUNDAY BEFORE WE

TRANSITION TO WHAT APPEARS TO BE AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF MUCH ABOVE

AVERAGE TEMPERATURES. SPLIT FLOW REGIME IS LIKELY TO PERSIST WITH

ALL MEDIUM RANGE MODELS IN GREAT AGREEMENT WITH RISING LOW/MID LEVEL

HEIGHTS AND SIGNIFICANT WARM AIR ADVECTION AS MILD PACIFIC AIR COMES

STREAMING EAST INTO THE AREA. A SYNOPTIC COMPOSITE OF THE 15 TIMES

WE`VE CLIMBED INTO THE 50S BETWEEN JAN 5-15 SINCE 1979 SHOWS THAT

850MB TEMPS HAVE AVERAGED AROUND 5-6C...WITH 925MB TEMPS AVERAGING

AROUND 7C WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE VALUES THE MEDIUM RANGE

MODELS HAVE BEEN ADVERTISING VERY CONSISTENTLY FOR DAYS ON END NOW

FOR NEXT WEEK. IN FACT...BY WEDNESDAY NEXT WEEK BOTH THE GFS AND

ECMWF ARE FORECAST 925MB/850MB TEMPERATURES CLOSE TO LEVELS THAT

ARE TYPICAL WITH THE 8 TIMES CHICAGO HAS REACH 60F IN JANUARY SINCE

1979. GIVEN THE STRONG AND CONSISTENT SIGNAL FOR WARMTH IN THE

MODELS AND THEIR PROPENSITY TO HAVE A STRONG COLD BIAS WITH SFC

TEMPS DURING WARM SPELLS IN THE EXTENDED...PARTICULARLY IN THE

WINTER...HAVE GONE WELL ABOVE ALL NUMERICAL GUIDANCE GOING WITH

HIGHS WELL INTO THE 40S MON AND TUES THEN INTO THE LOWER 50S MOST

AREAS BY WEDNESDAY. WORTH NOTING THAT WHILE THESE VALUES ARE 10F+

ABOVE MOS AND 20F+ ABOVE CLIMO THEY ARE STILL CONSERVATIVE AND IF

CURRENT MODEL GUIDANCE IS ANYWHERE CLOSE TO BEING IN THE BALLPARK OF

WHAT VERIFIES THEN NEAR RECORD HIGHS (MID 50S FOR RFD AND NEAR 60F

FOR CHI) WOULD BE POSSIBLE. TIME PERMITTING WILL TRY AND POST SOME

IMAGES OF THE SYNOPTIC COMPOSITES I REFERRED TO ABOVE ON OUR OFFICE

FACEBOOK PAGE THIS MORNING

(HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/US.NATIONALWEATHERSERVICE.CHICAGO.GOV).

 

 

 

Given the GFS, you might struggle to hit 50. Next week friday looks the warmest, being in the warm sector of a storm.

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Might as well, there sure is not much else to pull for in the foreseeable future.

 

And although I am a huge snow weenie, upper 50s would give me a great opportunity to avoid frostbite while taking down my christmas lights...

 

Same here! Otherwise I'd leave the hard to reach ones until March sometime!

 

27° and cloudy right now.

 

12z GFS shows a cold day for Friday now! lol Thursday not even torchy this run.

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Lol....ANOTHER epic fail here in West Michigan. 1/2 inch of "lake enhanced" snow overnight. The pattern and atmospheric conditions have just sucked for us to get snow here.

 

Same here, except maybe only 1/4" of snow.  This season is going to be setting some futility records on this side of the state soon if something doesn't change.

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