snowlover2 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 MESOSCALE DISCUSSION 2248 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 0818 PM CST FRI DEC 28 2012 AREAS AFFECTED...SRN IND...FAR SWRN OH...EXTREME NRN KY CONCERNING...HEAVY SNOW VALID 290218Z - 290615Z SUMMARY...MODERATE SNOWFALL WITH RATES APPROACHING 1 IN/HR WILL BE POSSIBLE OVER THE SRN HALF OF IND...FAR SWRN OH AND EXTREME NRN KY THROUGH 06Z. DISCUSSION...LATEST WV IMAGERY AND 00Z UPPER AIR ANALYSIS SHOW A SHORTWAVE TROUGH APPROACHING THE MID MS VALLEY REGION...WITH A PRONOUNCED DRY SLOT ADVANCING INTO WRN KY/TN. LARGE-SCALE ASCENT ASSOCIATED WITH THE TROUGH COMBINED WITH MODEST LOW TO MIDLEVEL FRONTOGENESIS HAS AIDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PRECIPITATION SHIELD LOCATED FROM SERN MO NEWD ACROSS SRN IL. IN ADDITION...MODEL CROSS SECTIONS FROM S-N ACROSS THE LOWER OH VALLEY INDICATE THE PRESENCE OF BOTH CI AND CSI...WHICH IS YIELDING MULTI-BANDED STRUCTURES EMBEDDED WITHIN THE PRECIPITATION SHIELD. AS A RESULT...MODERATE SNOWFALL WITH RATES NEAR 1 IN/HR HAVE BEEN OBSERVED OVER SRN IL DURING THE LAST FEW HOURS. AS THE UPSTREAM TROUGH CONTINUES ADVANCING EWD...BANDED SNOWFALL IS FORECAST TO SPREAD ACROSS THE SRN HALF OF IND...PORTIONS OF SWRN OH AND EXTREME NRN KY. SNOWFALL RATES APPROACHING 1 IN/HR WILL BE POSSIBLE ACROSS THIS AREA FOR A FEW MORE HOURS. HOWEVER...SHORT TERM MODEL GUIDANCE INDICATES LOW TO MIDLEVEL FRONTOGENESIS WILL WEAKEN SUBSTANTIALLY DURING THE 03-06Z TIME PERIOD...WHICH WOULD REDUCE THE POTENTIAL FOR HEAVY SNOWFALL RATES AS THE NIGHT PROGRESSES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierwx Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Very heavy snizzle here until just a minute ago, 35 dbz band rotating in from the south, flake size picking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 SN to +SN here. Probably 2" down right now. Sent from my Galaxy S III on Tapatalk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 One stinking mile away. Sent from my Galaxy S III on Tapatalk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 The winter wonderland outside is just about to become a whole lot wintrier! Refresher snow ftw! And the snowbanks havent even had much of a chance to get dirty yet AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI 901 PM EST FRI DEC 28 2012 .UPDATE... THE MID TROPOSPHERIC DYNAMICS ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPPER WAVE NOW ADVANCING ACROSS THE SRN MS VALLEY HAS BEEN STRENGTHENING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL HOURS. THIS IS APPARENT BY BOTH THE COOLING CLOUD TOPS ON THE IR IMAGERY OVER THE LOWER OH VALLEY/SRN GREAT LAKES AND EXPANDING REGION OF SNOW EXTENDING FROM SE MO INTO CNTRL INDIANA. OBSERVATIONAL DATA OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF HOURS HAVE SHOWN THE MID LEVEL DEFORMATION TRENDING STRONGER AND FURTHER NORTH THAN EARLIER MODEL SOLUTIONS INDICATED. THIS IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE CURRENT FORECAST WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THIS MID LEVEL DEFORMATION SLIDING INTO METRO DETROIT LATE TONIGHT. WHILE THE STRONGEST FORCING THIS FAR NORTH IS LIKELY TO BE QUITE HIGH UP /AROUND 600 MB/...THE 00Z DTX SOUNDING SHOWED GOOD MOISTURE EXTENDING UP TO THE 600MB LEVEL AND A TEMPERATURE PROFILE WHICH COULD SUPPORT GOOD SNOWFLAKE SIZE. UPSTREAM OBSERVATIONS...THE 00Z DTX SOUNDING PROFILE AND RECENT RUNS OF THE HRRR ARE SUPPORTIVE OF AN UPWARD ADJUSTMENT TO FCST SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS ALONG AND SE OF AN ADRIAN TO MT CLEMENS LINE /2 TO 4 INCHES/. THE PERIOD OF STRONGEST ASCENT WILL BETWEEN 6Z AND 13Z. THE HIGHEST SNOW TOTALS ARE EXPECTED ACROSS MONROE COUNTY AND THE DOWNRIVER COMMUNITIES. CERTAINLY CAN NOT RULE OF THE POSSIBILITY THAT SOME OF THESE LOCALS MAY SEE AMOUNTS SLIGHTLY EXCEED 4 INCHES. THE ABUNANCE OF LOW LEVEL MOISTURE ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST AREA TONIGHT AND INCREASED LARGE SCALE ASCENT SHOULD ALLOW A FAIRLY LARGE REGION OF LIGHT SNOW/FLURRIES TO PERSIST ACROSS MOST OF THE FORECAST AREA. ACCUMULATING SNOW SHOULD HOWEVER DROP OFF QUITE DRAMATICALLY ACROSS THE NORTHERN DETROIT SUBURBS UP ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST AREA. THUS NO ADJUSTMENTS TO FCST ACCUMS WILL BE MADE NW OF THE ADRIAN TO MT CLEMENS LINE. && This is really textbook type of weather for you, lol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlord81 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 SN to +SN here. Probably 2" down right now. Sent from my Galaxy S III on Tapatalk! Im in Fishers now, its been ripping half dollar sized flakes for a few hours. I live between Noblesville and Cicero on the map you just posted. A bit lighter there but I bet were about at 2inches with maybe 2 more to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afterimage Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 3 different measurements here, 2.5" so far....still falling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 0943 PM SNOW 9 NW INDIANAPOLIS 39.87N 86.27W 12/28/2012 M5.0 INCH MARION IN STORM CHASER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*IndyMeso* Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Im in Fishers now, its been ripping half dollar sized flakes for a few hours. I live between Noblesville and Cicero on the map you just posted. A bit lighter there but I bet were about at 2inches with maybe 2 more to go. Same here. Ran outside a few minutes ago to check how much and I would say a good fluffy two inches so far. Live in noblesville so we aren't that far apart. Just hasn't stopped since around 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 This is really textbook type of weather for you, lol... Yup. Do I want big storms? Absolutely. But small and moderate ones on a frequent basis with the cold air in place is really perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Im in Fishers now, its been ripping half dollar sized flakes for a few hours. I live between Noblesville and Cicero on the map you just posted. A bit lighter there but I bet were about at 2inches with maybe 2 more to go. Same here. Ran outside a few minutes ago to check how much and I would say a good fluffy two inches so far. Live in noblesville so we aren't that far apart. Just hasn't stopped since around 7. We're gonna give the LAF crew a run for their money on obs. Sent from my Galaxy S III on Tapatalk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlord81 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Same here. Ran outside a few minutes ago to check how much and I would say a good fluffy two inches so far. Live in noblesville so we aren't that far apart. Just hasn't stopped since around 7. May make a run at 4-5 if it keeps up. Nice surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Meanwhile in Neenah & Appleton, WI, 5" down from a lake enhanced band. Still snowing up there. Congrats central IN! Graphic for LOT cwa and NW IN tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamps10 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Just measured the snow and I'm at 4.5" so far in Flora, IL at my parents, still light to moderate snow falling here too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*IndyMeso* Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 May make a run at 4-5 if it keeps up. Nice surprise. Definitely!! Just looking out the window and say about 3-3.5 now. Had quite a burst a little bit ago. Lightened up a little now but still coming down at a good rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Yup. Do I want big storms? Absolutely. But small and moderate ones on a frequent basis with the cold air in place is really perfect. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 This I work tomorrow, but I will probably plan some sort of winter rec activity Sunday. If I cant drag anyone sledding a nice hike in a metropark sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFF Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Been up for days working on the last snow. Everthing is back to 100% asphalt as of 9:00 pm. As for now going to bed to get a few hours of sleep to start this all over again. Thinking the NW shift will once again pay off in our region. Another 2-4" in the bank will make thinks more wintry. One bad thing about the last storm was the lack of practice as of late and equipment malfuntions made it a long slow go. Any help in times of the snow would help.... Start, finish and height of the snow would be greatly appriciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Sent from my Galaxy S III on Tapatalk! Feels like winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Nice pictures B-rent! Late night run to Taco Bell I see! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Been up for days working on the last snow. Everthing is back to 100% asphalt as of 9:00 pm. As for now going to bed to get a few hours of sleep to start this all over again. Thinking the NW shift will once again pay off in our region. Another 2-4" in the bank will make thinks more wintry. One bad thing about the last storm was the lack of practice as of late and equipment malfuntions made it a long slow go. Any help in times of the snow would help.... Start, finish and height of the snow would be greatly appriciated. Per HRRR....will probably start in the next couple of hours, peak towards dawn, and then diminishing early-mid morning. Spits out 2-3" but as DTX mentioned there could be more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Nice pictures B-rent! Late night run to Taco Bell I see! Crappy camera phone. =) 5 inches in the driveway. 4.5 in the back yard. Sent from my Galaxy S III on Tapatalk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtrackertf Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 The winter wonderland outside is just about to become a whole lot wintrier! Refresher snow ftw! And the snowbanks havent even had much of a chance to get dirty yet AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI 901 PM EST FRI DEC 28 2012 .UPDATE... THE MID TROPOSPHERIC DYNAMICS ASSOCIATED WITH THE UPPER WAVE NOW ADVANCING ACROSS THE SRN MS VALLEY HAS BEEN STRENGTHENING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL HOURS. THIS IS APPARENT BY BOTH THE COOLING CLOUD TOPS ON THE IR IMAGERY OVER THE LOWER OH VALLEY/SRN GREAT LAKES AND EXPANDING REGION OF SNOW EXTENDING FROM SE MO INTO CNTRL INDIANA. OBSERVATIONAL DATA OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF HOURS HAVE SHOWN THE MID LEVEL DEFORMATION TRENDING STRONGER AND FURTHER NORTH THAN EARLIER MODEL SOLUTIONS INDICATED. THIS IS SUPPORTIVE OF THE CURRENT FORECAST WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR THE NORTHERN EDGE OF THIS MID LEVEL DEFORMATION SLIDING INTO METRO DETROIT LATE TONIGHT. WHILE THE STRONGEST FORCING THIS FAR NORTH IS LIKELY TO BE QUITE HIGH UP /AROUND 600 MB/...THE 00Z DTX SOUNDING SHOWED GOOD MOISTURE EXTENDING UP TO THE 600MB LEVEL AND A TEMPERATURE PROFILE WHICH COULD SUPPORT GOOD SNOWFLAKE SIZE. UPSTREAM OBSERVATIONS...THE 00Z DTX SOUNDING PROFILE AND RECENT RUNS OF THE HRRR ARE SUPPORTIVE OF AN UPWARD ADJUSTMENT TO FCST SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS ALONG AND SE OF AN ADRIAN TO MT CLEMENS LINE /2 TO 4 INCHES/. THE PERIOD OF STRONGEST ASCENT WILL BETWEEN 6Z AND 13Z. THE HIGHEST SNOW TOTALS ARE EXPECTED ACROSS MONROE COUNTY AND THE DOWNRIVER COMMUNITIES. CERTAINLY CAN NOT RULE OF THE POSSIBILITY THAT SOME OF THESE LOCALS MAY SEE AMOUNTS SLIGHTLY EXCEED 4 INCHES. THE ABUNANCE OF LOW LEVEL MOISTURE ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST AREA TONIGHT AND INCREASED LARGE SCALE ASCENT SHOULD ALLOW A FAIRLY LARGE REGION OF LIGHT SNOW/FLURRIES TO PERSIST ACROSS MOST OF THE FORECAST AREA. ACCUMULATING SNOW SHOULD HOWEVER DROP OFF QUITE DRAMATICALLY ACROSS THE NORTHERN DETROIT SUBURBS UP ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST AREA. THUS NO ADJUSTMENTS TO FCST ACCUMS WILL BE MADE NW OF THE ADRIAN TO MT CLEMENS LINE. && Yes, please! Not liking how things look on radar right now, but again, that can be decieving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 getting a nice mood snow here as the heavier band moves in from the southwest... hopefully my 2-4" call here works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Looks like Alek will cash in on some LE again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 2.5" Here. Finally white everywhere. Lambert probably got a Trace-0.1" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Looks like Alek will cash in on some LE again.. It'll be a close call on if the LES band makes it onshore or actually stays just offshore of IL. 00Z NAM suggests it stays just offshore and focuses on NW IN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 Pretty much a cluster**** of weather here right now... -FZDZSNUP BR and top that off with fog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Seeing flurries here again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I approve of more snow tonight, liking a 1-3" tonight and a 1-2" tomorrow. 2-5" total sounds pretty damn good in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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