TWCCraig Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 LI Sound was the reason LI got very little snow (and areas along the sound got nothing) in October 2011. It can help us in the winter and spring, but make no mistake that were it not for the sound we'd have had quite a snowstorm like others did that time. Living near the sound, I can tell you that we have a later first frost than the southern half of the island on average. Yes, but like I said, that was when the LI sound was in the low 60's during the oct 2011 storm, we're not going to see several inches of snow with that. We don't have water temps in the 60's now so I don't see the LI sound being the major factor when it comes to a rain/snow storm. I wouldn't be so sure about the first frosts since there isn't enough data to fully support it. General topography of the island supports the north shore would see frosts first due to the slightly higher terrain. Other than that, the only place on the south shore that I would see getting a frost before the north shore is out at Westhampton in the pine barrens with all that crazy radiational cooling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Yes, but like I said, that was when the LI sound was in the low 60's during the oct 2011 storm, we're not going to see several inches of snow with that. We don't have water temps in the 60's now so I don't see the LI sound being the major factor when it comes to a rain/snow storm. I wouldn't be so sure about the first frosts since there isn't enough data to fully support it. General topography of the island supports the north shore would see frosts first due to the slightly higher terrain. Other than that, the only place on the south shore that I would see getting a frost before the north shore is out at Westhampton in the pine barrens with all that crazy radiational cooling. There is data to support a shorter growing season on the South Shore than the N. Shore...coop stations at Babylon, Bay Shore, and Patchogue (all defunct) all had considerably shorter growing seasons than Centerport or Setauket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Yes, but like I said, that was when the LI sound was in the low 60's during the oct 2011 storm, we're not going to see several inches of snow with that. We don't have water temps in the 60's now so I don't see the LI sound being the major factor when it comes to a rain/snow storm. I wouldn't be so sure about the first frosts since there isn't enough data to fully support it. General topography of the island supports the north shore would see frosts first due to the slightly higher terrain. Other than that, the only place on the south shore that I would see getting a frost before the north shore is out at Westhampton in the pine barrens with all that crazy radiational cooling. Once the Sound is under 50 F...it doesn't play too much of a role in terms of rain vs snow because it is not wide enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 With all due respect, if I live well inland, which I do, why would I be concerned with temps at the coast? Embrace the warmth. Bring on Spring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 General topography of the island supports the north shore would see frosts first due to the slightly higher terrain. As a general rule, a low lying area sees earlier frosts than a hilltop because on clear calm nights when anticyclonic conditions prevail, a temperature inversion is invariably present as the heavier, colder air pools in the lowest areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 With all due respect, if I live well inland, which I do, why would I be concerned with temps at the coast? Embrace the warmth. Bring on Spring! Thanks for your contribution...unfortunately it will not be tax deductible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 0z RGEM http://collaboration.cmc.ec.gc.ca/cmc/cmdn/pcpn_type/pcpn_type_gem_reg.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 6z Nam is slightly wetter. Still looks like a coating at best for the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWCCraig Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 18z NAM is bone dry (no precip for most), but the NAM sometimes does this in this range. Upton snow forecast. I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFox Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 A few people if they are up late enough might post that they got a dusting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRain Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Yes, but like I said, that was when the LI sound was in the low 60's during the oct 2011 storm, we're not going to see several inches of snow with that. We don't have water temps in the 60's now so I don't see the LI sound being the major factor when it comes to a rain/snow storm. I wouldn't be so sure about the first frosts since there isn't enough data to fully support it. General topography of the island supports the north shore would see frosts first due to the slightly higher terrain. Other than that, the only place on the south shore that I would see getting a frost before the north shore is out at Westhampton in the pine barrens with all that crazy radiational cooling. The North Shore of Nassau had snow from the 2011 Oct. storm. If I recall correctly I had over 3.5" here in N. Syosset. I also jackpotted on the early Nov. storm in 2012 with over 7". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Radar looks nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonClaw Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 37.9F... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherFox Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Lots of Virga at this time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Radar looks nice Almost none of that is reaching the ground....a poster in eastern PA just reported cloudy skies under those moderate echoes. 32.7/27 here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Looking at various webcams, it's definitely reaching the ground in a bunch of spots. Particularly the southern end of PA and towards Southern NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcad1 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Temp is rising quickly in western Nassau we are up too 34 after being down too 28 two hours ago!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green tube Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Temp is rising quickly in western Nassau we are up too 34 after being down too 28 two hours ago!!!!!!! nothing's worse than having one's hopes and dreams of a trace snow shattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 nothing's worse than having one's hopes and dreams of a trace snow shattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Humidity Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Super flizzard of the century in progress in Freehold occurring now. Pic to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Humidity Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Coming down nicely. A good .1 or 2 so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Snowing nicely South Shore! looks like a Central Jers South Shore LI shaft area special! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick05 Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 wow, snowing here too!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Sad to say but or second biggest accumulation of the season a couple blocks from the bay with a solid coating. After Nov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWCCraig Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 34F Light to mod snow.....nice little coating on the ground. This is already more than what we got the last storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Nice coating everywhere. Snowing pretty steadily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weathergun Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Just some very light snow and flurries here. No accumulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 wet ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Humidity Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Solid half inch here now, the picks are twenty mins old and still snowing lightly despite a clearing radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 Wow, actually got a light dusting, emphasis on light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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