DomNH Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Yeah the temps are almost dead nuts with 12z, but this run was quicker as you mentioned, so in reality it drops a little more qpf as snow before any change here. It comes close to never changing over near the MA/NH border. What are we looking like for QPF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Yeah the temps are almost dead nuts with 12z, but this run was quicker as you mentioned, so in reality it drops a little more qpf as snow before any change here. It comes close to never changing over near the MA/NH border. Such and important storm for winter sports will. This is coming at the perfect time and is so desperately needed. Just great news. Very happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Euro really puts alot of qpf down before H85 goes past the pike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 What are we looking like for QPF? Between 1.25-1.5" for most. Probably 80% worth is snow for you on this run. But it will be close for the period near and just after 12z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Euro takes the low between ACK and the outer Cape it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold214 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Crushed on the Euro. indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 could almost pull off warning snows here before the flip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Between 1.25-1.5" for most. Probably 80% worth is snow for you on this run. But it will be close for the period near and just after 12z. So about a ten spot...sounds good. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 could almost pull off warning snows here before the flip Euro would get you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Euro would get you there. Will, what's your call for us knaves in Boston and metro west? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I hope so we havent had a good storm here since the october disaster last year Euro would get you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbieL241 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 The stupid 24 hr incraments on instantweathermaps make it look like I'm all snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cja1987 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I think people are getting too caught up in the east wind thing being a big deal here. I still don't understand how so many meteorologists can be so conservative for Boston, which is a snow town in SW Flow events generally. The GFS, which is MUCH warmer than the Euro or RGEM, still shows a solid frame of .25" QPF for Boston at 24 hours with the 850 line straddling the MA/CT border and the freezing line JUST north of Logan. Dewpoints are in the teens right now even on the water. Don't see how you're going to change such a cold, dry airmass over that quickly especially knowing climo east of the Apps. Finally, why are you still talking about the NAM when HPC has thrown it out for initialization errors? Climo. Boston is not really a snow town in any situation, its always a fight to get snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnowman Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 So the Euro gives me 5" instead of 2" Will? haha Here in good old Northern, RI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Will, what's your call for us knaves in Boston and metro west? Logan prob flips quick, but it does show temps just above freezing near the water at 00z...its pushed back to like 128 by 06z with the 35F isotherm running through BOS. I'd prob say an inch or two for Logan and maybe twice that for you. NW of 128 could be a 6 spot in metrowest...maybe a spot like Winchester/Woburn. Ray will probably do quite well getting a little further up toward 495. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 it looks warmer than 12z to me. though it could be the faster timing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Euro looked like a nice 7-10 here will, am I seeing that right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Logan prob flips quick, but it does show temps just above freezing near the water at 00z...its pushed back to like 128 by 06z with the 35F isotherm running through BOS. I'd prob say an inch or two for Logan and maybe twice that for you. NW of 128 could be a 6 spot in metrowest...maybe a spot like Winchester/Woburn. Ray will probably do quite well getting a little further up toward 495. Well earlier I took a stab at 2-4 for MBY so I'm glad we agree. Thanks Will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Well earlier I took a stab at 2-4 for MBY so I'm glad we agree. Thanks Will. Your obs will be interesting early in the event. It might be ripping really good so we'll have to see how much the omega/dynamics can offset the BL warmth trying to push westward. There's def some bust potential. Its difficult to say exactly how the BL will set up...sometimes there is a more defined CF and other times it might be a bit more diffuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Yeah the temps are almost dead nuts with 12z, but this run was quicker as you mentioned, so in reality it drops a little more qpf as snow before any change here. It comes close to never changing over near the MA/NH border. How much snow does it look like for this area (Tolland) before we change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Your obs will be interesting early in the event. It might be ripping really good so we'll have to see how much the omega/dynamics can offset the BL warmth trying to push westward. There's def some bust potential. Its difficult to say exactly how the BL will set up...sometimes there is a more defined CF and other times it might be a bit more diffuse. Well hopefully it's still snowing when I go to bed around this time tomorrow night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 How much snow does it look like for this area (Tolland) before we change? Prob 6ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I 100% expect a wswarning by the morning update tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Prob 6ish. Nice, that would be awesome! Thanks Will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Logan prob flips quick, but it does show temps just above freezing near the water at 00z...its pushed back to like 128 by 06z with the 35F isotherm running through BOS. I'd prob say an inch or two for Logan and maybe twice that for you. NW of 128 could be a 6 spot in metrowest...maybe a spot like Winchester/Woburn. Ray will probably do quite well getting a little further up toward 495. :( :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Euro is definitely a nice hit for the interior, even down to Kevin. His area is really a tough call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Euro is prob 5-8" for Kevin. I was thinking 3-5" for him originally, but euro def argues for more. I think it's also a matter of how quickly the arc of precip lifts north and the dryslot approaches...not just mid level temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Euro is definitely a nice hit for the interior, even down to Kevin. His area is really a tough call. Yeah, seems like we're right on the border, but hopefully the Euro verifies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Yeah, seems like we're right on the border, but hopefully the Euro verifies. Euro argues for a good bit of snow there, but like I said, we'll have to watch how quickly the DS moves in. That always like to ruin the party a little earlier for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Euro argues for a good bit of snow there, but like I said, we'll have to watch how quickly the DS moves in. That always like to ruin the party a little earlier for some. I'm actually more worried about warm air changing us over before the DS gets here, but it should be interesting to watch this play out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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