SpartyOn Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Care to elaborate or just troll? Jon Yup.. Not looking good for Howel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamps10 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Ill try to ignore the semi crybabies. Take some pics while clearing your 4-8" on wednesday. Hugging the NAM is the meaning of insanity. lol not buying this unless the others fall in line, still a BIG punch to the gut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maumee Bay Turf Center Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 the nam has it out for flora. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauDodson Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Holy smokes how far south is this thing going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokomoWX Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I have my doubts at the moment. What an awful trend. NWS Indy is really hitting out area hard for accumulating snow. I see most Indy TV mets are now pushing 10-12 inches possible for a high end amount. This increase came about after a NWS briefing. Edit to add: I upped the snow totals just a bit. Some isolated spots (in the purple/dark blue) could get up to 12" of snow by Wednesday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maumee Bay Turf Center Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 having family from there still and spending 4 winters there back in the very late 80s, qualifies me to chat about it. makes it far better having a friend such as yourself from there to converse about weather. merry Christmas james Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 some decent meltdowns in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Can't blame Toronto blizzard. I have no clue how we pulled that out on the NAM. Highly suspicious of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhamps10 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 ^^ I knew it was going to start getting nasty on here...we sure are weather "freaks." lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maumee Bay Turf Center Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 living in flora for 4 years was hairsplitting...seemed like a shield for any system meandering our way. i know why james gets so testy - i used to get just as fired up. james are you a met or just a very educated weather hobbiest? good luck to all of you guys living on the edge of this boxing day special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 00z RGEM slams the bootheal with heavy snow. Also southern IL. Looks like heavy snow lifting north into LAF at 36hrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I'm still trying to remember when a model slowly shifted snows southeast within the last 60 hours March 2008. This looks like a exact carbon copy of that. Most thought it would come back nw and it never did. some decent meltdowns in here Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organizing Low Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 NAM has another 20+ in ottawa lol i might hang myself if this plays out back to back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 LAF ends up right on the edge of the heavy snow on the RGEM, but still looks like a good hit. Drops off quickly northwest of there. Looks like SE MI gets it good past 40hrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHM Supercell Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I'd be happy with 6 inches, even more happy with the output from the NAM...But seriously, is 6 inches too much to ask for a day after Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 LAF ends up right on the edge of the heavy snow on the RGEM, but still looks like a good hit. Drops off quickly northwest of there. Looks like SE MI gets it good past 40hrs. Possibly, but we have seen this thing move east about 25 miles per run.... Detroit itself can't afford another 25 miles east. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Just by eyeballing it looks like the heavy snow axis on the RGEM runs from Carbondale IL, to Indy, to Cleveland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natester Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I'd be happy with 6 inches, even more happy with the output from the NAM...But seriously, is 6 inches too much to ask for a day after Christmas Same here with the exception of the flickering of power due to the weight of the snow and wind last Thursday (the snow was like literal cement since it was right around freezing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Illinois Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 ^^ I knew it was going to start getting nasty on here...we sure are weather "freaks." Ya when someone starts to troll him obviously it will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinois Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Just by eyeballing it looks like the heavy snow axis on the RGEM runs from Carbondale IL, to Indy, to Cleveland. So how good is the RGEM model and how did it perform with the last event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHM Supercell Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Same here with the exception of the flickering of power due to the weight of the snow and wind last Thursday (the snow was like literal cement since it was right around freezing) How much snow did you end up with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 So how good is the RGEM model and how did it perform with the last event? I think it's an okay model. Baro mentioned it has been upgraded this year to the same data crunching ability the Euro has. Forgot the name of it. Anyway I think it did pretty good with the last system overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natester Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 How much snow did you end up with? Around 6 inches. The water content of the snow was a little over 1 inch for only 6 inches of snow! Had we gotten 12 inches of snow (2 inches of water content) the power outages would have been widespread. The snow was super wet and super heavy, very bad for the pine trees. I think the reason why the snow had so much water content was that the rain/snow line was literally at my doorstep and temps were just above freezing although there was some major cold air aloft (which would explain why snow fell in areas where thunderstorms occured when temps were above freezing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHM Supercell Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Around 6 inches. The water content of the snow was a little over 1 inch for only 6 inches of snow! Had we gotten 12 inches of snow (2 inches of water content) the power outages would have been widespread. The snow was super wet and super heavy, very bad for the pine trees. I think the reason why the snow had so much water content was that the rain/snow line was literally at my doorstep and temps were just above freezing although there was some major cold air aloft (which would explain why snow fell in areas where thunderstorms occured when temps were above freezing). A **** to shovel I bet. On a different note, Mark Robinson a meteorologist at The Weather Network in Oakville Ontario mentioned the potential for a bit of lake enhancement in the Hamilton/Burlington area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illinois Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I think it's an okay model. Baro mentioned it has been upgraded this year to the same data crunching ability the Euro has. Forgot the name of it. Anyway I think it did pretty good with the last system overall. It is really interesting that it is north with the heavy band considering it is the high resolution "sister" of the gem which was always inb the south camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Funny that some that were sweating rain and mixing....are now on the outside are trolling. Short memories I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtrackertf Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Yup.. Not looking good for Howel. To be honest this trend is not good for anyone in Michigan, but it isn't over by any stretch of the mind. I still think we'll get a decent storm for the first of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Just had a look at the 00z 4KM NAM ARW and it spits out 1.75-2.00'' QPF. Likely overdone I know but it also hints at some lake effect potential around the west end of lake ontario prior to the storm. Sim radar has some a nice defo band moving in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 some decent meltdowns in here NW fringe posters freaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 I notice that with each successive run today, the NAM's orientation of the snow shield has changed and spread more north so the western edge keeps getting trimmed back, those of us on the river still do very good. The NAM verbatum is probably 7-10" here, 6-8" DTW, 4-6" ARB, 3-5" JXN, 1-3" BTL. Hoping the GFS and EURO show similar tonight. Definitely looking like whatever does fall in MI, youd want to be in my area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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