Chicago WX Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Don't think I can remember a time where a storm started southeast, went northwest and the fully came back to its original (more or less) positioning. Usually when Columbus loses a snow event, it's gone for good. Though the last few years, it has gotten pretty lucky vs average climo. It's been a different progression on the models, that's for sure. In the last 48 hours, I've gone from being in/near the sweet spot, to now hoping I get more than clouds. And if we go back even farther out to the day 6-7 range, some were taking it up over LAF or even ORD on a few runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 12z ECMWF Text List YYZ: THU 00Z 27-DEC -3.8 -5.6 1018 72 95 0.04 548 534 THU 06Z 27-DEC -5.3 -5.4 1014 84 100 0.27 544 533 THU 12Z 27-DEC -5.8 -8.2 1014 87 98 0.46 541 530 THU 18Z 27-DEC -5.0 -8.6 1015 80 89 0.07 541 530 FRI 00Z 28-DEC -6.2 -7.9 1017 85 76 0.02 544 530 Only lost a single tenth of an inch. That's weird. Assuming the fundamentals of the storm remain the same, weaker primary, quicker transfer to a coastal, I'm going to have side with the drier GGEM/NCEP models. Just based on storm climatology around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Don't think I can remember a time where a storm started southeast, went northwest and the fully came back to its original (more or less) positioning. Usually when Columbus loses a snow event, it's gone for good. Though the last few years, it has gotten pretty lucky vs average climo. this x 100 /\ the only time that might have happened was with the march '08 storm. I believe at one point it was a chicago special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisale Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Damn, Guelph's got some microclimate. 77? Christmas Eve bbq for you. haha CKYF seems to be frozen on 77 degrees. Actually 30F here, updated my profile to CYYZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Only lost a single tenth of an inch. That's weird. Assuming the fundamentals of the storm remain the same, weaker primary, quicker transfer to a coastal, I'm going to have side with the drier GGEM/NCEP models. Just based on storm climatology around here. LOL off course you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Only lost a single tenth of an inch. That's weird. Assuming the fundamentals of the storm remain the same, weaker primary, quicker transfer to a coastal, I'm going to have side with the drier GGEM/NCEP models. Just based on storm climatology around here. I calculated over an inch of QPF. Must have done something wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 12z ECMWF Text List STL: WED 06Z 26-DEC -0.7 -4.3 1016 68 81 0.01 547 534 WED 12Z 26-DEC -1.2 -5.2 1015 67 85 0.02 545 533 PAH: WED 00Z 26-DEC 2.8 0.5 1014 68 83 0.01 553 541 WED 06Z 26-DEC 0.9 -0.6 1006 91 100 0.35 548 543 WED 12Z 26-DEC -0.2 -5.4 1005 89 98 0.50 540 536 WED 18Z 26-DEC 0.2 -6.4 1013 78 77 0.28 546 536 DEC: WED 12Z 26-DEC -1.6 -4.7 1015 68 89 0.01 546 534 WED 18Z 26-DEC 0.5 -5.1 1015 67 92 0.03 545 533 THU 00Z 27-DEC -0.3 -7.1 1019 68 28 0.01 549 534 VPZ: WED 18Z 26-DEC -0.7 -4.9 1016 68 100 0.02 545 532 THU 00Z 27-DEC -0.4 -7.6 1017 79 95 0.05 545 532 THU 06Z 27-DEC -1.6 -6.9 1018 78 52 0.01 548 534 LAF: WED 12Z 26-DEC -1.0 -4.6 1014 74 96 0.01 546 535 WED 18Z 26-DEC -1.5 -3.9 1012 84 100 0.24 544 534 THU 00Z 27-DEC -1.3 -7.7 1016 84 78 0.11 546 533 IND: WED 12Z 26-DEC -0.8 -1.9 1010 80 98 0.13 547 539 WED 18Z 26-DEC -1.2 -5.8 1009 86 99 0.44 542 535 THU 00Z 27-DEC -1.8 -8.6 1014 86 64 0.10 545 534 BMG: WED 06Z 26-DEC 0.6 -0.9 1015 70 82 0.01 551 539 WED 12Z 26-DEC -0.6 -2.0 1007 86 99 0.32 546 540 WED 18Z 26-DEC -1.1 -5.4 1008 85 98 0.40 541 535 THU 00Z 27-DEC -1.2 -8.7 1014 84 60 0.05 546 535 OKK: WED 12Z 26-DEC -0.8 -4.0 1014 76 99 0.02 547 536 WED 18Z 26-DEC -1.0 -5.2 1011 85 99 0.26 543 534 THU 00Z 27-DEC -1.8 -8.6 1014 85 75 0.20 544 533 FWA: WED 18Z 26-DEC -0.9 -5.7 1011 84 97 0.21 544 535 THU 00Z 27-DEC -2.3 -8.5 1013 84 91 0.22 543 533 THU 06Z 27-DEC -4.8 -8.1 1016 84 67 0.01 546 534 MKG: THU 00Z 27-DEC -2.5 -5.3 1019 73 91 0.01 544 530 THU 06Z 27-DEC -5.0 -6.2 1020 77 93 0.01 545 530 GRR: THU 00Z 27-DEC -2.6 -6.0 1018 79 98 0.05 544 530 THU 06Z 27-DEC -4.2 -6.3 1018 79 89 0.02 545 531 BTL: WED 18Z 26-DEC -0.7 -6.1 1016 69 91 0.02 545 533 THU 00Z 27-DEC -2.4 -8.1 1016 82 97 0.13 544 531 THU 06Z 27-DEC -3.2 -7.4 1017 82 83 0.03 545 532 THU 12Z 27-DEC -4.3 -6.4 1019 78 62 0.01 547 532 MOP: THU 00Z 27-DEC -3.7 -6.2 1019 80 95 0.03 544 529 THU 06Z 27-DEC -4.8 -6.0 1018 84 96 0.04 544 530 THU 12Z 27-DEC -6.4 -6.4 1020 84 83 0.01 545 530 PTK: WED 18Z 26-DEC -1.4 -5.8 1017 71 84 0.01 547 533 THU 00Z 27-DEC -3.3 -7.6 1015 82 100 0.23 544 532 THU 06Z 27-DEC -3.9 -7.9 1014 86 93 0.15 543 532 THU 12Z 27-DEC -3.1 -7.5 1016 88 79 0.04 545 532 THU 18Z 27-DEC -1.5 -6.4 1018 79 59 0.01 547 533 DTW: WED 18Z 26-DEC -1.2 -5.2 1015 76 98 0.07 546 535 THU 00Z 27-DEC -3.0 -7.8 1014 86 100 0.35 543 532 THU 06Z 27-DEC -3.5 -7.7 1013 86 91 0.12 543 533 THU 12Z 27-DEC -3.0 -7.9 1016 86 78 0.03 545 533 THU 18Z 27-DEC -0.7 -6.6 1017 78 60 0.01 548 534 DET: WED 18Z 26-DEC -1.0 -5.3 1016 73 98 0.04 547 534 THU 00Z 27-DEC -3.0 -7.5 1014 86 100 0.36 543 532 THU 06Z 27-DEC -3.3 -7.5 1013 86 92 0.17 543 533 THU 12Z 27-DEC -2.7 -7.9 1015 86 74 0.04 544 532 THU 18Z 27-DEC -0.2 -7.0 1017 76 64 0.01 547 534 TDZ: WED 18Z 26-DEC 0.0 -5.0 1011 79 97 0.20 546 537 THU 00Z 27-DEC -1.8 -7.9 1011 90 97 0.46 543 534 THU 06Z 27-DEC -3.3 -7.8 1013 87 90 0.07 543 533 THU 12Z 27-DEC -3.7 -8.6 1016 86 83 0.02 546 534 THU 18Z 27-DEC -0.7 -6.3 1018 79 50 0.01 549 535 DAY: WED 12Z 26-DEC -1.3 -0.4 1010 84 100 0.27 550 542 WED 18Z 26-DEC -1.5 -3.3 1005 91 87 0.57 543 539 THU 00Z 27-DEC -1.8 -5.3 1008 91 57 0.08 543 536 THU 06Z 27-DEC -3.5 -7.6 1013 89 68 0.02 546 536 THU 12Z 27-DEC -4.6 -7.7 1018 87 43 0.01 550 536 HAO: WED 06Z 26-DEC 0.6 -0.8 1018 69 76 0.01 553 539 WED 12Z 26-DEC -0.5 -0.6 1007 89 100 0.40 550 544 WED 18Z 26-DEC 0.1 -2.4 1004 88 38 0.39 542 539 THU 00Z 27-DEC -1.4 -5.0 1008 89 65 0.05 543 536 THU 06Z 27-DEC -2.6 -7.7 1014 85 55 0.01 548 537 CMH: WED 12Z 26-DEC -0.9 -0.1 1012 82 100 0.21 552 542 WED 18Z 26-DEC -0.6 -2.8 1005 89 100 0.56 545 540 THU 00Z 27-DEC -0.3 -3.2 1005 89 92 0.14 542 538 THU 06Z 27-DEC -1.0 -6.9 1009 91 79 0.01 544 537 THU 12Z 27-DEC -3.7 -8.5 1016 88 69 0.01 548 536 CLE: WED 18Z 26-DEC -2.0 -3.1 1012 86 100 0.26 548 539 THU 00Z 27-DEC -1.0 -5.7 1009 90 98 0.51 543 536 THU 06Z 27-DEC -0.3 -6.3 1008 89 90 0.14 542 536 THU 12Z 27-DEC -1.8 -8.2 1013 87 79 0.06 544 533 THU 18Z 27-DEC -1.4 -8.7 1016 79 64 0.02 547 534 FRI 00Z 28-DEC -0.7 -8.8 1019 82 33 0.01 551 536 FRI 06Z 28-DEC -2.7 -5.6 1020 85 8 0.01 552 536 YKF: THU 00Z 27-DEC -5.5 -5.2 1017 69 99 0.07 547 533 THU 06Z 27-DEC -6.5 -4.7 1013 84 100 0.29 543 532 THU 12Z 27-DEC -7.1 -8.1 1014 86 98 0.27 541 530 THU 18Z 27-DEC -4.6 -8.6 1015 74 79 0.04 542 530 YYZ: THU 00Z 27-DEC -3.8 -5.6 1018 72 95 0.04 548 534 THU 06Z 27-DEC -5.3 -5.4 1014 84 100 0.27 544 533 THU 12Z 27-DEC -5.8 -8.2 1014 87 98 0.46 541 530 THU 18Z 27-DEC -5.0 -8.6 1015 80 89 0.07 541 530 FRI 00Z 28-DEC -6.2 -7.9 1017 85 76 0.02 544 530 Could you add ORD and MKE plz? Poor t-snow got worked over by the gfs and nam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Ironically better than a couple older runs from this weekend, locally at least. Euro still showing half a foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisale Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I calculated over an inch of QPF. Must have done something wrong? Sure did I'm seeing 0.86" for TO. Assuming 10:1 snow ratio at least, were still looking at 20cm-ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 LOL off course you are ?? I don't know what you're getting at. Aside from March 4-5, 2001, I can't think of a single coastal system that's been that wet around here. And with the March 2001 storm, the mid level center was situated in the GLs, rather than the OV as progged with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Only lost a single tenth of an inch. That's weird. Assuming the fundamentals of the storm remain the same, weaker primary, quicker transfer to a coastal, I'm going to have side with the drier GGEM/NCEP models. Just based on storm climatology around here. Euro QPF verifies the best. Granted this is for the Midwest region...but just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 It's been a different progression on the models, that's for sure. In the last 48 hours, I've gone from being in/near the sweet spot, to now hoping I get more than clouds. And if we go back even farther out to the day 6-7 range, some were taking it up over LAF or even ORD on a few runs. I'm gonna hold out hope for a bump nw on later runs. And conceptually, I can't remember many (any?) scenarios where we don't make out well with a primary low into KY, which may not be the thing to hang your hat on but it helps me feel a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondo1000 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 12z ECMWF Text List STL: WED 06Z 26-DEC -0.7 -4.3 1016 68 81 0.01 547 534 WED 12Z 26-DEC -1.2 -5.2 1015 67 85 0.02 545 533 PAH: WED 00Z 26-DEC 2.8 0.5 1014 68 83 0.01 553 541 WED 06Z 26-DEC 0.9 -0.6 1006 91 100 0.35 548 543 WED 12Z 26-DEC -0.2 -5.4 1005 89 98 0.50 540 536 WED 18Z 26-DEC 0.2 -6.4 1013 78 77 0.28 546 536 DEC: WED 12Z 26-DEC -1.6 -4.7 1015 68 89 0.01 546 534 WED 18Z 26-DEC 0.5 -5.1 1015 67 92 0.03 545 533 THU 00Z 27-DEC -0.3 -7.1 1019 68 28 0.01 549 534 VPZ: WED 18Z 26-DEC -0.7 -4.9 1016 68 100 0.02 545 532 THU 00Z 27-DEC -0.4 -7.6 1017 79 95 0.05 545 532 THU 06Z 27-DEC -1.6 -6.9 1018 78 52 0.01 548 534 LAF: WED 12Z 26-DEC -1.0 -4.6 1014 74 96 0.01 546 535 WED 18Z 26-DEC -1.5 -3.9 1012 84 100 0.24 544 534 THU 00Z 27-DEC -1.3 -7.7 1016 84 78 0.11 546 533 IND: WED 12Z 26-DEC -0.8 -1.9 1010 80 98 0.13 547 539 WED 18Z 26-DEC -1.2 -5.8 1009 86 99 0.44 542 535 THU 00Z 27-DEC -1.8 -8.6 1014 86 64 0.10 545 534 BMG: WED 06Z 26-DEC 0.6 -0.9 1015 70 82 0.01 551 539 WED 12Z 26-DEC -0.6 -2.0 1007 86 99 0.32 546 540 WED 18Z 26-DEC -1.1 -5.4 1008 85 98 0.40 541 535 THU 00Z 27-DEC -1.2 -8.7 1014 84 60 0.05 546 535 OKK: WED 12Z 26-DEC -0.8 -4.0 1014 76 99 0.02 547 536 WED 18Z 26-DEC -1.0 -5.2 1011 85 99 0.26 543 534 THU 00Z 27-DEC -1.8 -8.6 1014 85 75 0.20 544 533 FWA: WED 18Z 26-DEC -0.9 -5.7 1011 84 97 0.21 544 535 THU 00Z 27-DEC -2.3 -8.5 1013 84 91 0.22 543 533 THU 06Z 27-DEC -4.8 -8.1 1016 84 67 0.01 546 534 MKG: THU 00Z 27-DEC -2.5 -5.3 1019 73 91 0.01 544 530 THU 06Z 27-DEC -5.0 -6.2 1020 77 93 0.01 545 530 GRR: THU 00Z 27-DEC -2.6 -6.0 1018 79 98 0.05 544 530 THU 06Z 27-DEC -4.2 -6.3 1018 79 89 0.02 545 531 BTL: WED 18Z 26-DEC -0.7 -6.1 1016 69 91 0.02 545 533 THU 00Z 27-DEC -2.4 -8.1 1016 82 97 0.13 544 531 THU 06Z 27-DEC -3.2 -7.4 1017 82 83 0.03 545 532 THU 12Z 27-DEC -4.3 -6.4 1019 78 62 0.01 547 532 MOP: THU 00Z 27-DEC -3.7 -6.2 1019 80 95 0.03 544 529 THU 06Z 27-DEC -4.8 -6.0 1018 84 96 0.04 544 530 THU 12Z 27-DEC -6.4 -6.4 1020 84 83 0.01 545 530 PTK: WED 18Z 26-DEC -1.4 -5.8 1017 71 84 0.01 547 533 THU 00Z 27-DEC -3.3 -7.6 1015 82 100 0.23 544 532 THU 06Z 27-DEC -3.9 -7.9 1014 86 93 0.15 543 532 THU 12Z 27-DEC -3.1 -7.5 1016 88 79 0.04 545 532 THU 18Z 27-DEC -1.5 -6.4 1018 79 59 0.01 547 533 DTW: WED 18Z 26-DEC -1.2 -5.2 1015 76 98 0.07 546 535 THU 00Z 27-DEC -3.0 -7.8 1014 86 100 0.35 543 532 THU 06Z 27-DEC -3.5 -7.7 1013 86 91 0.12 543 533 THU 12Z 27-DEC -3.0 -7.9 1016 86 78 0.03 545 533 THU 18Z 27-DEC -0.7 -6.6 1017 78 60 0.01 548 534 DET: WED 18Z 26-DEC -1.0 -5.3 1016 73 98 0.04 547 534 THU 00Z 27-DEC -3.0 -7.5 1014 86 100 0.36 543 532 THU 06Z 27-DEC -3.3 -7.5 1013 86 92 0.17 543 533 THU 12Z 27-DEC -2.7 -7.9 1015 86 74 0.04 544 532 THU 18Z 27-DEC -0.2 -7.0 1017 76 64 0.01 547 534 TDZ: WED 18Z 26-DEC 0.0 -5.0 1011 79 97 0.20 546 537 THU 00Z 27-DEC -1.8 -7.9 1011 90 97 0.46 543 534 THU 06Z 27-DEC -3.3 -7.8 1013 87 90 0.07 543 533 THU 12Z 27-DEC -3.7 -8.6 1016 86 83 0.02 546 534 THU 18Z 27-DEC -0.7 -6.3 1018 79 50 0.01 549 535 DAY: WED 12Z 26-DEC -1.3 -0.4 1010 84 100 0.27 550 542 WED 18Z 26-DEC -1.5 -3.3 1005 91 87 0.57 543 539 THU 00Z 27-DEC -1.8 -5.3 1008 91 57 0.08 543 536 THU 06Z 27-DEC -3.5 -7.6 1013 89 68 0.02 546 536 THU 12Z 27-DEC -4.6 -7.7 1018 87 43 0.01 550 536 HAO: WED 06Z 26-DEC 0.6 -0.8 1018 69 76 0.01 553 539 WED 12Z 26-DEC -0.5 -0.6 1007 89 100 0.40 550 544 WED 18Z 26-DEC 0.1 -2.4 1004 88 38 0.39 542 539 THU 00Z 27-DEC -1.4 -5.0 1008 89 65 0.05 543 536 THU 06Z 27-DEC -2.6 -7.7 1014 85 55 0.01 548 537 CMH: WED 12Z 26-DEC -0.9 -0.1 1012 82 100 0.21 552 542 WED 18Z 26-DEC -0.6 -2.8 1005 89 100 0.56 545 540 THU 00Z 27-DEC -0.3 -3.2 1005 89 92 0.14 542 538 THU 06Z 27-DEC -1.0 -6.9 1009 91 79 0.01 544 537 THU 12Z 27-DEC -3.7 -8.5 1016 88 69 0.01 548 536 CLE: WED 18Z 26-DEC -2.0 -3.1 1012 86 100 0.26 548 539 THU 00Z 27-DEC -1.0 -5.7 1009 90 98 0.51 543 536 THU 06Z 27-DEC -0.3 -6.3 1008 89 90 0.14 542 536 THU 12Z 27-DEC -1.8 -8.2 1013 87 79 0.06 544 533 THU 18Z 27-DEC -1.4 -8.7 1016 79 64 0.02 547 534 FRI 00Z 28-DEC -0.7 -8.8 1019 82 33 0.01 551 536 FRI 06Z 28-DEC -2.7 -5.6 1020 85 8 0.01 552 536 YKF: THU 00Z 27-DEC -5.5 -5.2 1017 69 99 0.07 547 533 THU 06Z 27-DEC -6.5 -4.7 1013 84 100 0.29 543 532 THU 12Z 27-DEC -7.1 -8.1 1014 86 98 0.27 541 530 THU 18Z 27-DEC -4.6 -8.6 1015 74 79 0.04 542 530 YYZ: THU 00Z 27-DEC -3.8 -5.6 1018 72 95 0.04 548 534 THU 06Z 27-DEC -5.3 -5.4 1014 84 100 0.27 544 533 THU 12Z 27-DEC -5.8 -8.2 1014 87 98 0.46 541 530 THU 18Z 27-DEC -5.0 -8.6 1015 80 89 0.07 541 530 FRI 00Z 28-DEC -6.2 -7.9 1017 85 76 0.02 544 530 Can someone explain temp profile here? How do you know what is snow vs rain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I calculated over an inch of QPF. Must have done something wrong? Yeah, being a weenie. Maybe you added some of the crap qpf we get tonight. BTW...what site are using to find these numbers to add? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csnavywx Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Only lost a single tenth of an inch. That's weird. Assuming the fundamentals of the storm remain the same, weaker primary, quicker transfer to a coastal, I'm going to have side with the drier GGEM/NCEP models. Just based on storm climatology around here. Certainly NOT much more room for you to play with there on the Euro. It shows what amounts to a strong (but weakening) band making its way across the lake and giving you some snow before the f-gen starts shutting down and the deformation zone weakens considerably. This makes sense, as the cyclone will have matured some 18 hours prior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Yeah, being a weenie. Maybe you added some of the crap qpf we get tonight. BTW...what site are using to find these numbers to add? Lol I'm just adding them with a calculator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Hopefully this thing moves west a tad... I figure that would bring more of the subforum into the game. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afterimage Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 I'm gonna hold out hope for a bump nw on later runs. And conceptually, I can't remember many (any?) scenarios where we don't make out well with a primary low into KY, which may not be the thing to hang your hat on but it helps me feel a little better. Agree, my time at BSU back in the day managing the wx station, the primary in KY was always good. I think even now we are ok, I know here in MIE its a little better. With things being colder now, SE, maybe ratios will be a little better also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Euro QPF verifies the best. Granted this is for the Midwest region...but just sayin'. It's definitely been consistent. No 0.50" to 2.00" oscillations like the gd NAM. Still...I feel like if I buy in I'm letting the inner weenie take the reins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Lol I'm just adding them with a calculator adding what though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 One run of the Euro for LAF was clearly whacked. Other than that, can't argue with the consistency. 0z yesterday: 0.36" 12z yesterday: 0.34" 0z today: 0.51" 12z today: 0.36" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 adding what though? The numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Don't think I can remember a time where a storm started southeast, went northwest and the fully came back to its original (more or less) positioning. Usually when Columbus loses a snow event, it's gone for good. Though the last few years, it has gotten pretty lucky vs average climo. Depends what you consider "original" positioning. When this storm was WAY in fantasyland (like 10 days), you had DT screaming a very suppressed event while the GFS wanted a MSP cutter. Inside of 5 days however things started out where I would miss all snow to the S/E, then it got better and better, and then 2 days ago I started sweating NW shift...now its going back SE. Im ok with todays verbatum models..but it better not go much more SE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Good ol' John Dee's map And Accuwx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 The numbers the numbers Joe posted? Or numbers from elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Could you add ORD and MKE plz? Poor t-snow got worked over by the gfs and nam. lol. Enjoy your Christmas LES flurries... MKE: THU 00Z 27-DEC -1.9 -9.4 1020 76 43 0.01 544 528 THU 06Z 27-DEC -3.4 -8.5 1020 80 32 0.01 546 530 THU 12Z 27-DEC -4.1 -9.4 1022 79 35 0.01 548 530 THU 18Z 27-DEC -2.0 -7.9 1022 73 11 0.01 549 532 ORD: THU 00Z 27-DEC -0.7 -8.5 1019 77 71 0.01 545 531 THU 06Z 27-DEC -1.7 -8.3 1020 77 28 0.01 548 532 THU 12Z 27-DEC -2.7 -7.0 1021 77 27 0.01 549 532 THU 18Z 27-DEC -1.1 -8.0 1022 73 8 0.01 550 533 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 lol. Enjoy your Christmas flurries... MKE: THU 00Z 27-DEC -1.9 -9.4 1020 76 43 0.01 544 528 THU 06Z 27-DEC -3.4 -8.5 1020 80 32 0.01 546 530 THU 12Z 27-DEC -4.1 -9.4 1022 79 35 0.01 548 530 THU 18Z 27-DEC -2.0 -7.9 1022 73 11 0.01 549 532 ORD: THU 00Z 27-DEC -0.7 -8.5 1019 77 71 0.01 545 531 THU 06Z 27-DEC -1.7 -8.3 1020 77 28 0.01 548 532 THU 12Z 27-DEC -2.7 -7.0 1021 77 27 0.01 549 532 THU 18Z 27-DEC -1.1 -8.0 1022 73 8 0.01 550 533 ROTFLMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 DTW: WED 18Z 26-DEC -1.2 -5.2 1015 76 98 0.07 546 535 THU 00Z 27-DEC -3.0 -7.8 1014 86 100 0.35 543 532 THU 06Z 27-DEC -3.5 -7.7 1013 86 91 0.12 543 533 THU 12Z 27-DEC -3.0 -7.9 1016 86 78 0.03 545 533 THU 18Z 27-DEC -0.7 -6.6 1017 78 60 0.01 548 534 DET: WED 18Z 26-DEC -1.0 -5.3 1016 73 98 0.04 547 534 THU 00Z 27-DEC -3.0 -7.5 1014 86 100 0.36 543 532 THU 06Z 27-DEC -3.3 -7.5 1013 86 92 0.17 543 533 THU 12Z 27-DEC -2.7 -7.9 1015 86 74 0.04 544 532 THU 18Z 27-DEC -0.2 -7.0 1017 76 64 0.01 547 534 DTW only lost 0.04" from 00z. Euro is still at least a 6" snowfall. As some have said in recent days...Ill take it and run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Recapping 12z QPF for DTW NAM: 0.77" GFS: 0.34" EURO: 0.57" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Good ol' John Dee's map And after today's model runs, I've gotta disagree. Clearly models have shifted back southeast and the thermals are definitely cooler on the 12z runs than they have been. CMH gets more than 1-3 or 2-4 And Accuwx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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