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12/29 - New Years Storm Threat Discussion


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is the 12/19/1979 a good analog for this storm?...we got 3.5" from a storm that tracked to far south for big accumulations...

That looks like an overrunning event to me, a clipper type system from the west slammed into a big high over Quebec and New England. I was thinking this is more a castrated version of 12/5/02 to an extent. there was better interaction between the 2 systems and a better surface low that time.

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/NARR/2002/us1205.php

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That looks like an overrunning event to me, a clipper type system from the west slammed into a big high over Quebec and New England. I was thinking this is more a castrated version of 12/5/02 to an extent. there was better interaction between the 2 systems and a better surface low that time.

http://www.meteo.psu...2002/us1205.php

I was on the northwest edge of that storm in State College with 1-2" foretasted. Enjoyed my 1-2" even though I had to shovel off the other 6" to get to it.

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The bombing of the low is still a bit too far SE and slow for my liking, but that is to be expected given the rather broad vort energy in the trough. Let's hope to see more congealed energy w/ tonight's Euro. As it stands, I think it's time to pull the trigger on a moderate 2-4" event.

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Accu pro is usually on the money, not sure why it's different then what peeps are saying in here..

knyc


SAT 12Z 29-DEC  -0.8    -2.7    1014      72      99    0.00     551     540    
SAT 18Z 29-DEC   0.2    -2.8    1008      93      99    0.18     543     536    
SUN 00Z 30-DEC  -0.8    -4.5    1006      95      89    0.11     537     533    
SUN 06Z 30-DEC  -2.3    -6.4    1007      90      57    0.00     534     529 

Klga

SAT 06Z 29-DEC  -0.9    -1.5    1017	  78	  36    0.00	 553	 540   
SAT 12Z 29-DEC  -0.5    -2.6    1014	  72	  99    0.00	 551	 540   
SAT 18Z 29-DEC   0.5    -2.8    1008	  92	  99    0.17	 543	 537   
SUN 00Z 30-DEC  -0.4    -4.4    1005	  95	  88    0.12	 537	 533   
SUN 06Z 30-DEC  -1.9    -6.4    1006	  89	  57    0.00	 534	 529

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Accu pro is usually on the money, not sure why it's different then what peeps are saying in here..

knyc


SAT 12Z 29-DEC  -0.8    -2.7    1014      72      99    0.00     551     540    
SAT 18Z 29-DEC   0.2    -2.8    1008      93      99    0.18     543     536    
SUN 00Z 30-DEC  -0.8    -4.5    1006      95      89    0.11     537     533    
SUN 06Z 30-DEC  -2.3    -6.4    1007      90      57    0.00     534     529 

Klga

SAT 06Z 29-DEC  -0.9    -1.5    1017      78      36    0.00     553     540   
SAT 12Z 29-DEC  -0.5    -2.6    1014      72      99    0.00     551     540   
SAT 18Z 29-DEC   0.5    -2.8    1008      92      99    0.17     543     537   
SUN 00Z 30-DEC  -0.4    -4.4    1005      95      88    0.12     537     533   
SUN 06Z 30-DEC  -1.9    -6.4    1006      89      57    0.00     534     529

I think people are adding up every 3 hours off the Vista maps, which is incorrect because each 3 hours represents previous 6 hours of precip.

Same goes with the instantweathermaps. 3 hour increments but 6 hours previous precip.

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It will be interesting to see if this shortwave can trend stronger in future runs...maybe turn into a psuedo-SWFE type deal.

http://www.meteo.psu...AVN_0z/f108.gif

Missing a strong high to the north will again dumb it down though, those events are great when you have that high, we've been unable to get them the last few winters.

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