stormtrackertf Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Nice pic! How much up there? Snow really varied from place to place. I measured 1.4", which while quite a minimal snowfall is still an overachiever for DTX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 1.5" here in Eastpointe, the roads were bad coming back from Harsens Island, lots of spin outs on I-94. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Sweet! Enjoy! Total was about a half inch but hardly any of it melted thankfully. Hopefully we can turn the ship around in this part of the state soon. Merry Christmas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 .Around 2.5", looks really nice out there...the air is clean and fresh..... :$ lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Huntington Woods lolipop 2.5-3" Woodward and 11 mile. Awesome beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtrackertf Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Huntington Woods lolipop 2.5-3" Woodward and 11 mile. Awesome beauty. I believe it. Radar returns were awesome over parts of Oakland County for a good while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Tonight ended up with 0.9" snow imby on 0.07" water content. At least we know tomorrow is a White Christmas...and then onto see what Wed brings. Looks like totals throughout metro-Detroit varied from 0.5-2.5", as as Sparty noted, some 3" lollipops. Pretty much an overperformer for most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Roads are trash! Anyways left sterling hts with 2.25"-2.5" MBY: 1.75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Look out my window, everything dusted in snow. A few tenths and falling pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Oh by the way....since this is a White Christmas for the Detroit area....Channel 7's "10% chance" issued on Dec 12th, did indeed, prove a FAIL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Look out my window, everything dusted in snow. A few tenths and falling pretty. Looks like about 0.4" or something. Not officially a white Christmas but it's better than nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roardog Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Oh by the way....since this is a White Christmas for the Detroit area....Channel 7's "10% chance" issued on Dec 12th, did indeed, prove a FAIL. How can this be? The talk on here was that the only chance Detroit had was with the big storm last week since the models showed nothing after that through Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Oh by the way....since this is a White Christmas for the Detroit area....Channel 7's "10% chance" issued on Dec 12th, did indeed, prove a FAIL. Media is terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 You can't look at the end result and call a probabilistic forecast a bust....doesn't work like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 You can't look at the end result and call a probabilistic forecast a bust....doesn't work like that. That probablistic "forecast" was ridiculously based on the fact that it was mild and snowless December 12th. It had zero reasoning and zero merit. It was a typical amateur graphic from a non-met weatherperson who doesnt know squat about out climate. We have a 50/50 shot historically and there was no reason to go lower than that, much less deep-south type low, because it was mild 2 weeks before christmas. Look how SE MI's forecast changed yesterday in SIX HOURS to give us a white Christmas. So giving 90% odds of a snowless one 300 HOURS out was ridiculous, end of story. And if we had bare ground this morning...it still would have been a ridiculous option on Dec 12th! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 That probablistic "forecast" was ridiculously based on the fact that it was mild and snowless December 12th. It had zero reasoning and zero merit. It was a typical amateur graphic from a non-met weatherperson who doesnt know squat about out climate. We have a 50/50 shot historically and there was no reason to go lower than that, much less deep-south type low, because it was mild 2 weeks before christmas. Look how SE MI's forecast changed yesterday in SIX HOURS to give us a white Christmas. So giving 90% odds of a snowless one 300 HOURS out was ridiculous, end of story. And if we had bare ground this morning...it still would have been a ridiculous option on Dec 12th! Those are all fine arguments as to why it was a bad forecast. Saying that 10% was too low because it didn't happen is not. If you tell me there's a 50% chance I get heads when I flip a coin and a flip tails 4 times in a row, I can't say you made a bad "forecast" based on only that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 This map does not make any sense at all... I'm sorry but all the DTX snowfall maps are always wrong. I had around 2.5" of snowfall... http://www.crh.noaa.gov/dtx/display_event.php?file=snow201212251443 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 This map does not make any sense at all... I'm sorry but all the DTX snowfall maps are always wrong. I had around 2.5" of snowfall... http://www.crh.noaa....now201212251443 lmao They base their maps of legit reports from Coop. Observers and networks like CoCoRaHs, not slant-sticked reports from online weather forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajdos Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 lmao They base their maps of legit reports from Coop. Observers and networks like CoCoRaHs, not slant-sticked reports from online weather forums. NO ****...Plenty of spotters out, but still many maps that they post or OBS, are never correct.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 NO ****...Plenty of spotters out, but still many maps that they post or OBS, are never correct.... The vast, vast majority of them are correct enough for all intents and purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 hm8 is correct here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 lmao They base their maps of legit reports from Coop. Observers and networks like CoCoRaHs, not slant-sticked reports from online weather forums. Agree to a point. I was in Sterling HtS this an awful map and should not be posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 hm8 is correct here. Sometimes commom sense needs to be used when Issuing a map like this. It was easily 2-2.5" in western Macomb cty laat night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 DTX sometimes gets it wrong. It does happen. Probably the same forecaster thats progging a WwA. Christmas eve and day, I assume they have a skeleton crew? That would explain allot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Sometimes commom sense needs to be used when Issuing a map like this. It was easily 2-2.5" in western Macomb cty laat night. Ya man the amounts even in northern wayne need adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 It was more the 'DTX always gets it wrong all the time' that bugged me. Still, DTX has to go off the offical reports they have. Altering the map based on "common sense" (not even sure what that means) or reports from here or something would be unprofessional and unscientific. Also its a 1-3" event on Christmas Eve so yeah its prob gonna not be perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 It was more the 'DTX always gets it wrong all the time' that bugged me. Still, DTX has to go off the offical reports they have. Altering the map based on "common sense" (not even sure what that means) or reports from here or something would be unprofessional and unscientific. Also its a 1-3" event on Christmas Eve so yeah its prob gonna not be perfect. Here is straight up simple question: If you were running that office at that time and you had Joe Schmoe making up this map would you have approved it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathergy Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I'm an official spotter, and I got less than an inch. We're told to only call in reports that are above an inch, so I didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Here is straight up simple question: If you were running that office at that time and you had Joe Schmoe making up this map would you have approved it? Well we are talking about a gov agency here. Its run no differently than the post office or other bloated agencies. Things just slip by.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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