NeffsvilleWx Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 No flakes yet in Manheim. 30F. Radar echos overhead for several hours now. Echos overhead are because the average radar "slice" altitude in our area is around 10k MSL because there aren't any close NWS radar sites. We're situated pretty much dead center between KCCX, KDIX and KLWX. We get a good idea what is coming, but not really what is happening locally. For this, super doppler 8 is more informative. GR3 has shown echoes overhead since 0930. Super doppler 8 has been clear overhead all day. See my previous post. AND just as I submit the edit, a few tiny flakes start falling lazily toward the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiier04 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Snow just started here in State College. Already picking up pretty good. Dusting on roads and sidewalks. Thinking 5-8" here with some sleet problems... But holding out that maybe just maybe we can stay all/mostly snow and eek out some higher totals. Enjoy it everyone!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeffsvilleWx Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Snowing in centerville, lancaster county per traffic cam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Heavy snow has been underway here. I agree with the others, once it starts this snow means business from the get go. Nice breeze too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr5001 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 for those checking out the traffic cams... looks like an accident occurred right in front of where the I-83/PA 581 camera is at Lemoyne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Just over an inch of snow has fallen at this point. Car accidents are occurring all over the place as morons, the region over have decided to take to their cars. I am a bit surprised at the amount of people here who are either shocked to learn about this storm (I know yesterday was Christmas but still) or are just denying it is going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Heavy snow has been underway here. I agree with the others, once it starts this snow means business from the get go. Nice breeze too. What's your thinking based on the last NAM and other short range models, plus obs? Pretty much what you expected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Festus Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Thanks for the good post, Neffsville. Guess I just can't bring myself to view anything associated with WGAL. I now just spotted a few flakes here as well. And in the lame fact of the day, this storm is Euclid per the Weather Channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 wow sad to hear about accidents already. be careful out there any travelers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 What's your thinking based on the last NAM and other short range models, plus obs? Pretty much what you expected? This storm so far is behaving as anticipated, although my map might end up underdone in York and Lancaster and perhaps the southeast. I figured this was going to be one of those storms that hit fast and hard. I did notice the 12z NAM ptypes kept our area all snow for the first time that i've seen. Still gets mixing/liquid pretty far up into NE PA which I'm suspect about... I think that will be thwarted a bit (say maybe gets to about I-80. We'll see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paweatherguy1 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 This storm so far is behaving as anticipated, although my map might end up underdone in York and Lancaster and perhaps the southeast. I figured this was going to be one of those storms that hit fast and hard. I did notice the 12z NAM ptypes kept our area all snow for the first time that i've seen. Still gets mixing/liquid pretty far up into NE PA which I'm suspect about... I think that will be thwarted a bit (say maybe gets to about I-80. We'll see how it goes. Mag, you still thinking the 3-6 for SWPA? I'm starting to think it may actually overperform down here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Echos overhead are because the average radar "slice" altitude in our area is around 10k MSL because there aren't any close NWS radar sites. We're situated pretty much dead center between KCCX, KDIX and KLWX. We get a good idea what is coming, but not really what is happening locally. For this, super doppler 8 is more informative. GR3 has shown echoes overhead since 0930. Super doppler 8 has been clear overhead all day. See my previous post. AND just as I submit the edit, a few tiny flakes start falling lazily toward the ground. The bad thing about Super Doppler 8 is that it does not appear (at least to me) to pick up on the snow intensity very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurel Highlands Wx Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Have an inch sof far. Another heavy band is coming up from Ebensburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 wow sad to hear about accidents already. be careful out there any travelers. Scanner's going crazy here. This storm so far is behaving as anticipated, although my map might end up underdone in York and Lancaster and perhaps the southeast. I figured this was going to be one of those storms that hit fast and hard. I did notice the 12z NAM ptypes kept our area all snow for the first time that i've seen. Still gets mixing/liquid pretty far up into NE PA which I'm suspect about... I think that will be thwarted a bit (say maybe gets to about I-80. We'll see how it goes. I saw that as well on the NAM....that's pretty good news. I know it's nowcast time but we finally have the NAM/Euro combo we like to see. We have .6 already, heavy snow, 1/4 mile vis, 23.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 I can't get a grasp on the mix line from reading other obs. People are mixing and going back to snow all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
var126 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 First flakes in Lewisburg at 11:45 although there was pretty strong virga action for a while before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Can't see across the river, but there's a bad accident at 83/581 and another at 83 and I believe 17th Street. Visibility is very, very low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Mag, you still thinking the 3-6 for SWPA? I'm starting to think it may actually overperform down here? For now, although i'm open to you guys overperforming. Right now I'm keeping an eye on PBZ radar and noticing that it appears via dual pol mixing (probably sleet) is trying to work up to Pittsburgh. Def seeing some resistance though once it gets just south of town. Also have noticed on regular winter radar that the snow/sleet is starting to work on changing back down into sw PA. Will definitely be keeping an eye on obs from you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel717 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 For now, although i'm open to you guys overperforming. Right now I'm keeping an eye on PBZ radar and noticing that it appears via dual pol mixing (probably sleet) is trying to work up to Pittsburgh. Def seeing some resistance though once it gets just south of town. Also have noticed on regular winter radar that the snow/sleet is starting to work on changing back down into sw PA. Will definitely be keeping an eye on obs from you guys. Its sleeting heavily in my area SW Allegheny County. Very little in the way of flakes mixed in, but so far heaviest sleet I have had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Scanner's going crazy here. I saw that as well on the NAM....that's pretty good news. I know it's nowcast time but we finally have the NAM/Euro combo we like to see. We have .6 already, heavy snow, 1/4 mile vis, 23.6 Measured 1.5" down this way a little bit ago. Snow has lightened up some with another heavy band getting ready to push thru soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 It's still snowing in Virginia, so that's a plus ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 For now, although i'm open to you guys overperforming. Right now I'm keeping an eye on PBZ radar and noticing that it appears via dual pol mixing (probably sleet) is trying to work up to Pittsburgh. Def seeing some resistance though once it gets just south of town. Also have noticed on regular winter radar that the snow/sleet is starting to work on changing back down into sw PA. Will definitely be keeping an eye on obs from you guys. Thanks....any truth the claims that the secondary is forming fairly far south? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paxpatriot Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 In Gettysburg right now.....mod to heavy snow falling, about 2 inches so far. Accidents everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashtown_Coop Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 In Gettysburg right now.....mod to heavy snow falling, about 2 inches so far. Accidents everywhere. a little west in Cashtown things are really cranking 26f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummyratguy Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Lots of snow in e york, about to drive to hanover- not looking forward to it. Roads going downhill quickly here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 man it is absolutely pouring snow right now...what a beautiful sight outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 we are just shy of 1.5" so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 Wish I could be out there at UNV for a change for this one. Enjoy guys, long time coming!! Wherever it stays 90% or more as snow, I could see 12"+ given the intensity of the snow. Good luck guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 its looks to be very fine snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted December 26, 2012 Share Posted December 26, 2012 looks like NWS bumped up my totals and took the sleet out of my forecast (point and click) This Afternoon Snow. High near 27. East wind around 14 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total daytime snow accumulation of 4 to 8 inches possible. Tonight Snow. Low around 26. Northeast wind 7 to 13 mph becoming north after midnight. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 5 to 9 inches possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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