Allsnow Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 On 12/23/2012 at 2:48 PM, tombo82685 said: ewr, starts as rain/ snow mix or snow that never sticks...the freezing level is 1300 ft...by hr 39 solidly rain. Thanks man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 On 12/23/2012 at 2:39 PM, tombo82685 said: for the city its pretty blah, it may be more of snow that never stick or rain/snow mix.. hr 33 the freezing level at phl is around 937mb or 2100 feet up, so that screams more rain. For places like dyl ptw, ukt...its snow that flips prob as its ending...hr 36 has ptw and dyl still below with the freeze level around 400-500 ft which is snow. by hr 39 the precip is done...so they are majority frozen Thanks - Sounds like fall line N+W. Far northern and western suburbs for best shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowanBrandon Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I don't even need to ask Tombo, KMIV is all snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 On 12/23/2012 at 2:39 PM, tombo82685 said: For places like dyl ptw, ukt...its snow that flips prob as its ending...hr 36 has ptw and dyl still below with the freeze level around 400-500 ft which is snow. by hr 39 the precip is done...so they are majority frozen So I suppose ABE and north and west would be all frozen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 for Philly: 36hr nam: 39: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 Bri - can you post Dyl? On iPhone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 On 12/23/2012 at 3:12 PM, hazwoper said: Bri - can you post Dyl? On iPhone. 36: 39: looks like snow to sleet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Still hope for front end thump. Better than nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 On 12/23/2012 at 3:07 PM, Voyager said: So I suppose ABE and north and west would be all frozen? Yeah. Looks that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 Thanks man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phlwx Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 On 12/23/2012 at 3:24 PM, Parsley said: Still hope for front end thump. Better than nothing. hope might be all you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 On 12/23/2012 at 3:25 PM, Parsley said: Yeah. Looks that way. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 GFS a little colder at 850. Between 0.1 iand 0.25 in area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisy Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 GFS looks like it may snow, surface is torched but I see no reason why flakes won't fly, maybe accumulation on grass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 On 12/23/2012 at 4:01 PM, Highzenberg said: GFS looks like it may snow, surface is torched but I see no reason why flakes won't fly, maybe accumulation on grass? the freezing level per gfs at phl at hr 36 is 1300 ft, rain/snow mix..surface looks like mid 30s...once to my work in wayne on northwest they are solidly snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 per gfs...ptw-ukt starts as snow might end as snow or switches to some freezing rain or frizzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 fwiw 12z ggem...pretty much like the 12z gfs..for city and immediate burbs snow to rain...ptw-ukt snow to ice...lehigh valley and pocs all snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 you know tom, now that you moved to gilbertsville, ill actually have to make a snowboard and take measurements..... (if we ever get to that point) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boch23 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 What would be the timing of the precip. Mostly as modeled when would it start, rain or snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 On 12/23/2012 at 4:36 PM, Boch23 said: What would be the timing of the precip. Mostly as modeled when would it start, rain or snow? christmas eve to early christmas morn..over before you wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazwoper Posted December 23, 2012 Author Share Posted December 23, 2012 Any word on euro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 On 12/23/2012 at 6:19 PM, hazwoper said: Any word on euro? its not much maybe .1...dampens the wave out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 wow 18z NAM looks great for a festivus white miracle 2-3"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubbs Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 NAM does look colder at 850. Also the little low that forms near phl will cut of the southerly low level winds. Have to check soundings to see who gets what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunder Road Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 On 12/23/2012 at 8:37 PM, RedSky said: wow 18z NAM looks great for a festivus white miracle 2-3"? The BUKFIT data should be in in about 15 minutes and I'll check precip type then. 850's are cold enough north of the city for most of the event but 925's and 2 m are warm, so there might be some melting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 On 12/23/2012 at 8:37 PM, RedSky said: wow 18z NAM looks great for a festivus white miracle 2-3"? its actually worse...u flip just after hr 33 and even before that you are very wet snow...the freezing layer is like 2500 ft up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyweather Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 On 12/23/2012 at 8:48 PM, tombo82685 said: its actually worse...u flip just after hr 33 and even before that you are very wet snow...the freezing layer is like 2500 ft up NWS saying more freezing rain than snow for the LV tomorrow night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 On 12/23/2012 at 8:49 PM, anthonyweather said: NWS saying more freezing rain than snow for the LV tomorrow night makes sense..warmer push is always here faster than u think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 On 12/23/2012 at 8:48 PM, tombo82685 said: its actually worse...u flip just after hr 33 and even before that you are very wet snow...the freezing layer is like 2500 ft up if the NAM profiles are correct i know often it's warm in that regard, going to find out soon enough what is total qpf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombo82685 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 On 12/23/2012 at 8:54 PM, RedSky said: if the NAM profiles are correct i know often it's warm in that regard, going to find out soon enough what is total qpf? its .2-.25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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