PatrickSumner Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I've thrown in the towel..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I've thrown in the towel..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherPimp Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 It will be interesting to see that the 12z EURO shows. I remain skeptical of a farther NW track and I really think the Arctic air to the North and Northwest will keep a track similar to what the EURO has been showing in play, and the models tend to struggle with pulling these systems to far into the Arctic air and not pulling the Arctic air far enough South and east. It's interesting to watch an Ohio Valley storm play out from Idaho. Completely objective I still believe the heaviest snow will be from EVV to BMG/IND over towards Eastern Indiana and then Western/Northern Ohio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I've thrown in the towel..... Let me go pick it up for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amos83 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I've thrown in the towel..... Way too early to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Rent Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 It will be interesting to see that the 12z EURO shows. I remain skeptical of a farther NW track and I really think the Arctic air to the North and Northwest will keep a track similar to what the EURO has been showing in play, and the models tend to struggle with pulling these systems to far into the Arctic air and not pulling the Arctic air far enough South and east. It's interesting to watch an Ohio Valley storm play out from Idaho. Completely objective I still believe the heaviest snow will be from EVV to BMG/IND over towards Eastern Indiana and then Western/Northern Ohio. I think we are going to see our heaviest snow band line up within 50 or so miles either side of that EVV-MIE line. I'm leaning that it will probably be NW of there through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierwx Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I've thrown in the towel..... Way too early man. We still got a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Euro pretty much identical through 72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Let me go pick it up for you That's very kind of you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Euro pretty much identical through 72 997mb over central KY at 72hrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fickle Heights Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Been a while since I've been this excited about a snowstorm for our backyards, though trying to stay a little tempered since it's still 3 days out. Regarding the winds, GFS/NAM mixing heights aren't very deep but both models have 35-40 kts even at 950 mb. Chad says 1-4" with sleet and freezing rain mixing in. Lock it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Completely in the dark. Two freebie sites I use are not uploading. From reading the SNE thread, 12z EURO might go a tad NW of the 0z run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amos83 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 997mb over central KY at 72hrs With that kind of track I would think heaviest snow would be just north and along Ohio river in s. Illinois/s. Indiana. Don't have access to map to verify though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Completely in the dark. Two freebie sites I use are not uploading. From reading the SNE thread, 12z EURO might go a tad NW of the 0z run. http://www.instantweathermaps.com http://www.greatlakes.salsite.com/ECMWF_plots.html There ya go... now you can press F5 as much as your heart desires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Completely in the dark. Two freebie sites I use are not uploading. From reading the SNE thread, 12z EURO might go a tad NW of the 0z run. A micro-hair maybe. End results are extremely similar to the 0z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 A micro-hair maybe. End results are extremely similar to the 0z. Does the primary hold on longer? Reaction in the SNE thread is that this was a substantial shift towards a warmer solution for them, although I suppose the thermals could be substantially different without the track changing all that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 With that kind of track I would think heaviest snow would be just north and along Ohio river in s. Illinois/s. Indiana. Don't have access to map to verify though. 850 0 line is within sniffing distance of cmh. riding the edge yet again.... looks like another late nite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Does the primary hold on longer? Reaction in the SNE thread is that this was a substantial shift towards a warmer solution for them, although I suppose the thermals could be substantially different without the track changing all that much. I'd guess 25-50 miles west of 00z as it tracks into KY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Saw 96. 993 over NYC rather than ~996 SE of Long Island at 0z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 850 0 line is within sniffing distance of cmh. riding the edge yet again.... looks like another late nite CMH's temps are definitely a bit warmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickSumner Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 EURO a good hit for Southern IN? Thanks dmc76 for picking up my towel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdudemike Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 850 0 line is within sniffing distance of cmh. riding the edge yet again.... looks like another late nite Unfortunately even with the 850 line there, 1000-500mb thickness gets to 544 during the biggest 6-hr QPF period. Plus surface temps are just above freezing (although 2M temps could be too warm given NE wind)...I think you guys are sitting a bit better than us in Cincy at this point. Maybe I should drive back to my apartment on campus in Columbus lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Does the primary hold on longer? Reaction in the SNE thread is that this was a substantial shift towards a warmer solution for them, although I suppose the thermals could be substantially different without the track changing all that much. I was speaking solely for impact in this region. It is a bit warmer at the surface for Ohio as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dilly84 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Unfortunately even with the 850 line there, 1000-500mb thickness gets to 544 during the biggest 6-hr QPF period. Plus surface temps are just above freezing (although 2M temps could be too warm given NE wind)...I think you guys are sitting a bit better than us in Cincy at this point. Maybe I should drive back to my apartment on campus in Columbus lol Pittsburgh stays cold enough for snow too. Maybe I'm good still being east of CMH. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEOH Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Nice to see the euro hold. All things considered, it has been very consistent with the track. Can't say the same for the GFS or NAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 CMH's temps are definitely a bit warmer but it's still within slight shifting distance either way of great or sucky.... 12z models really didn't do much to answer questions for central OH. being to the northeast of cmh, even if only a few miles might help on this one.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I was speaking solely for impact in this region. It is a bit warmer at the surface for Ohio as well. I know. I was inferring that "warmer" for them also meant the low was tracking further west. Do you happen to know how far north the primary gets before it dissipates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Saw 96. 993 over NYC rather than ~996 SE of Long Island at 0z. It's just as good, if not a bit better than the 0z run for YYZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 EURO a good hit for Southern IN? Thanks dmc76 for picking up my towel... Pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Looks like the primary makes it to the OH/WV border, but it is already transferring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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