jhamps10 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 sounds like South Central IL is the screw zone on the Euro then instead of South Central IN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 So it does something? Don't have access. All I saw was SE corner of IN to DTW on west was SOL. There's probably around .3-.4 qpf, not bad especially if ratios would be better deeper into the cold air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 There's probably around .3-.4 qpf, not bad especially if ratios would be better deeper into the cold air. Cool. Yeah I'd hit that. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Hoosier sorry for asking this dumb question but is .8'' QPF good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Ukie and gem east coast. Not gonna lie, kinda bummed about this one... Not feeling good about it at all anymore. Models absolutely all over the place. GFS ensembles all over the place too, and this includes timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afterimage Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Those KMIE #s look appetizing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Sharp cutoff along a line from the SE corner of IN to Detroit. Verbatum still good snows for Detroit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Hoosier sorry for asking this dumb question but is .8'' QPF good? 8 inches of snow at a 10:1 ratio. Pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 8 inches of snow at a 10:1 ratio. Pretty good. Temps in the teens as it's snowing hard there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kab2791 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Verbatum still good snows for Detroit. 4-6" for extreme Southeast MI verbatim. Small shifts could make a significant difference here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 So it does something? Don't have access. All I saw was SE corner of IN to DTW on west was SOL. SE MI does decent, west of Lansing SOL Id say. Someone posted this earlier. It basically has the Euro forecast, all you have to do is convert qpf. I dont think its updated for 12z yet. http://www.yr.no/place/United_States/Michigan/Detroit_NEXRAD/long.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 8 inches of snow at a 10:1 ratio. Pretty good. Pretty good run then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue60007 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Got the whole range of solutions in the GFS Ensembles. Saw a few agreeing with OP, a few OTS, and a few cutting further NW. Any word from the Euro ensembles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Got the whole range of solutions in the GFS Ensembles. Saw a few agreeing with OP, a few OTS, and a few cutting further NW. Any word from the Euro ensembles? Euro ensembles come out around 3:45 or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue60007 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Euro ensembles come out around 3:45 or so Thanks. Wasn't sure when they came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 well a relief for sure...I was certain the euro was going to pull its OTS act this round. Still amazing differences between it and the other globals. I guess it has to do with the xmas eve wave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Got the whole range of solutions in the GFS Ensembles. Saw a few agreeing with OP, a few OTS, and a few cutting further NW. Any word from the Euro ensembles? I'd pay money to lock in a few of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue60007 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I'd pay money to lock in a few of those. Yes, please. Though I think one even looked a little dicey this far north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondo1000 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 well a relief for sure...I was certain the euro was going to pull its OTS act this round. Still amazing differences between it and the other globals. I guess it has to do with the xmas eve wave. Question-At this point, are the Euro and GFS close to each other enough where it is Euro/GFS vs. the other global models? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Question-At this point, are the Euro and GFS close to each other enough where it is Euro/GFS vs. the other global models? they're pretty close, but I believe the gfs is further north, taking the low into KY whereas the euro gets it to e. TN. I could definitely see the euro showing a stronger solution with further n. adjustment. If it wasn't for the other globals hellbent on suppression, I'd be convinced the NW trend would be kicking in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 The UKMET/GGEM must drink heavily before they come out. nogaps is holding the funnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pondo1000 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 they're pretty close, but I believe the gfs is further north, taking the low into KY whereas the euro gets it to e. TN. I could definitely see the euro showing a stronger solution with further n. adjustment. If it wasn't for the other globals hellbent on suppression, I'd be convinced the NW trend would be kicking in. But yet the Euro has shown more precip here than the GFS, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 1"+ of QPF in NWOH this run... Buckeye would like this as well not complaining, but that seems high for a storm that only makes it to the Tn/VA border?? edit: inverted trough?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 not complaining, but that seems high for a storm that only makes it to the Tn/VA border?? Primary probably sneaks into KY...there's a lot of bagginess there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Primary probably sneaks into KY...there's a lot of bagginess there. ok that makes sense. I was reading tombos play by play and it sounded as though it hits e. tenn and then starts jumping east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 But yet the Euro has shown more precip here than the GFS, right? if cmh is 1"+ on the euro...then yes, i think that's more than the gfs is showing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 not complaining, but that seems high for a storm that only makes it to the Tn/VA border?? edit: inverted trough?? At 132hr there's a weaker primary in WV and a secondary just onshore of the coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 NW Ohio 4" in 3 hours. That's nifty. (129 hours) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 FIM's take on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Henry M posted the 12z Euro snowfall map on Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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