40/70 Benchmark Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 i don't know how many times people said that new england would be on the edge. it was said over and over again that this could work out really well or also kind of crappy. i don't understand where this notion came from that this was going to be an extended period of hvy hvy snow I think it came from the fact that the past few "gradient" patterns have produced for us....the term gradient pattern has become synonymous with a regime which favors most of sne points N....well, the difference here is that the gradient is much farther north because the PAC has locked out the arctic air. Look at Dec 2007.....it was a pos NAO, but with a favorable Pacific. The EPO is more important and it has worked for us in gradient patterns of recent years...here, it is working against us, and all we have is a skunked NAO block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Some people maybe need to take a break for a day or three. Lol I am not punting December yet. But it is third and long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 i don't know how many times people said that new england would be on the edge. it was said over and over again that this could work out really well or also kind of crappy. i don't understand where this notion came from that this was going to be an extended period of hvy hvy snow i personally never thought that but i do remember and i'm saying this from a 100% respectful perspective that two days ago scooter and i think you were saying they really were excited for the week after this coming one, and weenies were like here we go again, and now it seems that excitement you guys had is already muted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 These early season snows have really messed people up. Today is a spot on climo day here, winds were howling this morning at the beach, grey skies wind blown drizzle and temps near 40. It amazes me how people so quickly forget 10-11, the best winter I have ever experienced second to 95-96. I remember the despair in December 10 as we had two cutters a near miss and then the hammer dropped on Boxing Day. I think getting normal snowfall this winter will be fantastic and very attainable anything else is gravy, things should get better next month before a potential torch early Jan. Cold and raw early winter morning, things could be worse............a LOT worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Most of us thought it was certainly possible. Things just didn't break our way but all of this is playing out as many of us expected. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Kevin has had 12.5" on the season through the first half of Decemeber, and is melting down.....dude, you have like 200% of climo right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Imagine if some of us get less snow this season than last? That could easily happen for me (although I am not leaning that way) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 12z nam keep 0c 850 very close for NE mass still. the 0c 850 line has been bouncing around between manchester,nh and just north of boston for several runs, so if any sort of north-northeast flow is established just away from coast in NE mass perhaps some sneaky snow for like n. andover, boxford, haverhill , north reading area perhaps later tonite. eekster and scott were posting how their local respective models were showing a cold push coming out of nh sometime tonite as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Lost business to sandy cus lost home seat east queeens war zone red hook the poor of the poor wiped no food stores for miles Fri. took the cake with pure evil see ya .my folks the plate is FULL.Bosonfella and the ole timers i hope everyone is well and their families Mulen I thought of you often, prayers are with you. I hope things work out. You do make me laugh, I see you did not lose your sense of humor, see ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 If ony the good Rev listened to us. I do not see a reason to punt until early January, unless you are being a baby and are whining just to whine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Imagine if some of us get less snow this season than last? That could easily happen for me (although I am not leaning that way) More possible for those of you who got 1-2 feet in October. For us on the CP, it's pretty hard to come in below 9.6" or so at BOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Quite a temp difference. Left kpit to downtown greenfield. Car read 26 when I left. Here in the valley floor it's reading 34. Suspect it's cooler where chris lives--he's far from downtown. The Davis at home continues steady at 26.4/20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Even up there they've got several rainers..noone thought that..Not one person EVER mentioned rainers in ski country Oh that was definitely a possibility and I'm pretty sure I mentioned that several times. No one likes to listen to it when the models were showing snow/ice in SNE, but the ensembles always had members that were rain to Buffalo and Montreal. That's why the cone of possibilities was said to be Buffalo to Bermuda (some thought that was a joke). On the flip side, those storms could have gotten crushed by a fast PAC flow and ended up going out to sea and impacting no one. The end result is the same, its not snowing. We (the board concensus) suck it up and move on. Still got a lot of winter time left to go there dude. Its the holiday's... be happy for whatever we've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Kevin has had 12.5" on the season through the first half of Decemeber, and is melting down.....dude, you have like 200% of climo right now. That means nothing. It's December it's winter. We've had no snow in one if our 3 winter months. We lose this whole month now. It's not melting down. It's just reality mixed with bewilderment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 If ony the good Rev listened to us. I do not see a reason to punt until early January, unless you are being a baby and are whining just to whine. Early January??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 More possible for those of you who got 1-2 feet in October. For us on the CP, it's pretty hard to come in below 9.6" or so at BOS. Yeah, if BOS got single digits there would not be a toaster or piece of rope around for 100 miles It will be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 That means nothing. It's December it's winter. We've had no snow in one if our 3 winter months. We lose this whole month now. It's not melting down. It's just reality mixed with bewilderment You are melting down faster than frosty. It will get better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 While it looked like we could get wintry many of us thought it would take some luck. Unfortunately all 3 storms aren't breaking our way... but what are you going to do. This isn't really surprising to me though I certainly hoped it would have been different. Exactly... the shame is on folks that lock things in on day 7 model runs. I'm usually quite conservative and skeptical of snow to the point of it being a complex (folks at the mountain thought I was low balling them when I mentioned general light snowfall amounts this week) but the way you forecast accurately is stay conservative for a long time until it is a slam dunk. Then you ramp it up. There's no need to talk about feet of snow for days and days when you are still 144-192 hours out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Getting snow flurries / light snow right now, nice to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 -15 a crayton lake now same with st. johnsbury maine .....0ff a low of -18 cold damn. rochester,nh checking in at 20/5 and boston 36 sizzlin degrees. 29 here right now in wakefield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Light flakes in greenfield. Pretty sure the car thermodynamic is reading warm (though the 26 it had at home matched my station). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I have had 12.4" to show in the last year and Kevin has 12.5" to date this season. b**ch please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I think it came from the fact that the past few "gradient" patterns have produced for us....the term gradient pattern has become synonymous with a regime which favors most of sne points N....well, the difference here is that the gradient is much farther north because the PAC has locked out the arctic air. Yeah the gradient is still there... up here we don't look to get much except some upslope on the backside or changeover to sloppy coating-couple inches.... but southern Canada gets absolutely bombed a couple times this week just north of the border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I don't understand why the talk on punting early January? We're already sacked in our end zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 26.3/18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 i personally never though that but i do remember and i'm saying this from a 100% respectful perspective that two days ago scooter and i think you were saying they really were excited for the week after this coming one, and weenies were like here we go again, and now it seems that excitement you guys had is already muted. i don't know...i'm not expecting jan 05 but i feel like it's a better look than we've seen in quite a while. it could certainly end up doing nothing noteworthy but at least it's not a guarantee fail pattern. i don't think we are headed to back to back horrendous winters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I don't understand why the talk on punting early January? We're already sacked in our end zone can we move this to the other thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 One thing I have noticed over the last 6 years on these boards..............its always about Kevin, he loves the attention, fantastic guy but craves the limelight. Another masterful performance. Light rain 39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I don't understand why the talk on punting early January? We're already sacked in our end zone now you are just going to the opposite extreme. you should step away for a while as you've gone nuts in the last 2 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 NAM still has a nice back-end thump of snow on the spine of the Greens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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