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Stumbling into a wintry pattern, weenies confused; still shaken from last winter

earthlight

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bkviking

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Some PWS's are recording about a 3 degree dew point drop in the last 20 mins on the south shore. Think the front is passing. But temps won't plummet until the sun gets low.

Yes, I've snapped screen shots of conditions off of apps and I have 2 degree drop since I checked 40 mins ago

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TWCCraig

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ISP's record is pretty short, I wouldn't be impressed.

 

It is, but JFK also tied a record.

 

 

000SXUS71 KOKX 201753RERJFKRECORD EVENT REPORTNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY1253 PM EST SUN JAN 20 2013...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT KENNEDY NY...A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 56 DEGREES WAS SET AT KENNEDY NY TODAY.THIS TIES THE OLD RECORD OF 56 SET IN 1991 AND 2006.THIS RECORD REPORT WILL BE UPDATED LATER THIS AFTERNOON WITH THEFINAL HIGH TEMPERATURE FOR THE DAY.
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famartin

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It is, but JFK also tied a record.

 

 

 

000SXUS71 KOKX 201753RERJFKRECORD EVENT REPORTNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY1253 PM EST SUN JAN 20 2013...RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE SET AT KENNEDY NY...A RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURE OF 56 DEGREES WAS SET AT KENNEDY NY TODAY.THIS TIES THE OLD RECORD OF 56 SET IN 1991 AND 2006.THIS RECORD REPORT WILL BE UPDATED LATER THIS AFTERNOON WITH THEFINAL HIGH TEMPERATURE FOR THE DAY.

 

OK, that's a bit more impressive, though JFK is still one of the shorter period of record sites (I think its 48-50 and 60-present, why the gap in the 50s is beyond me)

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RU848789

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I highly disagree unless this is SE of the benchmark the immediate coast has trouble. It has been a terrible winter here with just .9 not including November.

 

Wow, just 0.9" there on the south shore of LI?  Hasn't been an amazing winter here, in Central Jersey, but it's been ok, with about 10.5" so far in Metuchen (Edison area in northern Middlesex County, NJ).  We had the one big snow on 11/7 (6") and several 1/2 to 1" type small storms.  Could really use some January snow, though, for all of us - would be a shame to waste all that cold air...

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Guest Pamela

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Wow, just 0.9" there on the south shore of LI?  Hasn't been an amazing winter here, in Central Jersey, but it's been ok, with about 10.5" so far in Metuchen (Edison area in northern Middlesex County, NJ).  We had the one big snow on 11/7 (6") and several 1/2 to 1" type small storms.  Could really use some January snow, though, for all of us - would be a shame to waste all that cold air...

 

I think the poster you quoted said he omitted the November storm from his total...how much that proved to be...I'm not sure. 

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famartin

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I think the poster you quoted said he omitted the November storm from his total...how much that proved to be...I'm not sure. 

 

I still don't quite understand why people do that, except to make one's position seem more desperate.  Snow is snow.  Does it really matter when it falls?  It rarely stays on the ground long around NYC anyway, and if it does usually starts to turn black after a few days.  Sorry for my OT rant.

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Nikolai

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I still don't quite understand why people do that, except to make one's position seem more desperate.  Snow is snow.  Does it really matter when it falls?  It rarely stays on the ground long around NYC anyway, and if it does usually starts to turn black after a few days.  Sorry for my OT rant.

How do you know? Have you ever lived in NYC? This is something I have observed to be untrue in my time here. Snow turns quite ugly in Midtown but in the residential neighborhoods & the Park it stays nice-looking. 

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Sundog

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How do you know? Have you ever lived in NYC? This is something I have observed to be untrue in my time here. Snow turns quite ugly in Midtown but in the residential neighborhoods & the Park it stays nice-looking.

Yea unless you live on a major business street (which almost no one does) snow looks really good for a long time.

How many people actually live on Broadway or similar streets? And if it does snow there the snow doesn't last long enough to turn dirty anyway lol.

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famartin

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How do you know? Have you ever lived in NYC? This is something I have observed to be untrue in my time here. Snow turns quite ugly in Midtown but in the residential neighborhoods & the Park it stays nice-looking. 

 

Even in less urban areas, you start to lose the snow cover fairly quickly on the south facing slopes.  I prefer a continuous white landscape.  Once it starts to get even a few patches of ground, I'm ready to see it either melt off or get reinforced.

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Even in less urban areas, you start to lose the snow cover fairly quickly on the south facing slopes.  I prefer a continuous white landscape.  Once it starts to get even a few patches of ground, I'm ready to see it either melt off or get reinforced.

 

Survivability is aided by being in the countryside, having the terrain wooded, and, especially, being on a north facing hill...

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famartin

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Survivability is aided by being in the countryside, having the terrain wooded, and, especially, being on a north facing hill...

 

This is true of course.  At my parents, there's a large spruce tree on a slight south slope across the street.  Once the snow started to melt off in front of that tree, I was ready for it to all go away or get reinforced.

 

Here where I live in Elko, there is a slight south hill across the street.  I know we're really starting to melt off when that goes bare. 

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Guest Pamela

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This is true of course.  At my parents, there's a large spruce tree on a slight south slope across the street.  Once the snow started to melt off in front of that tree, I was ready for it to all go away or get reinforced.

 

Here where I live in Elko, there is a slight south hill across the street.  I know we're really starting to melt off when that goes bare. 

 

Of course, the three factors I cited are at best secondary...the primary factors are consistently cold temperatures, heavy annual snowfall, and a low percentage of cold season precip that is in the form of rain.

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