IsentropicLift Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 dude its progressive, a few days of down to normal temps isnt a big deal. The overall pattern remains the same, strong -PNA lackluster blocking and low heights over AK. A giant cut off low over the mid west is not progressive. It amazes me that you're still permitted to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Im sad because of the inconsistency from run to run. So its impossible to sound credible when im watching solutions disolve in less than 24 hrs We cant get the trof axis to the east coast and the models cant handle the strength of the block. Theres nothin from this model showin a coastal tomrrw. So try sounding smart whn every operational looks different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow_Miser Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 dude its progressive, a few days of down to normal temps isnt a big deal. The overall pattern remains the same, strong -PNA lackluster blocking and low heights over AK. The ECMWF is not at all progressive. Look at how amplified that ridge is at hour 240. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 To me it looks like the Euro is showing the low coming out of Texas is reacting to the block and is going to try and redevelop east - previous to this frame the low was heading northeast and intensifying from Texas to western TN http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/euro/12zeuro850mbTSLPUS240.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 The 12z Euro actually has the potential to spawn a beast. That giant cut off low is going to feed plenty of moisture into the area. Closed lows over the TN Valley often leed to high end QPF events in the mid-atlantic and northeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 You just need the models to figure out the strength and positon of that block , if its modeled right , than this should belly under and redevelop along the coast as it comes on the heels of a cold air mass . As it is , its a blocky pattern day 7 on , ULL in the middle of the country under blocks yield great results for New England , lets see if it get the low level cold air this far south . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 The ECMWF is not at all progressive. Look at how amplified that ridge is at hour 240. Lol complete opposite of what nor'easter was saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted December 17, 2012 Author Share Posted December 17, 2012 Euro isn't that exciting to be honest...with a cutoff low you're going to lose the cold air source. Luckily its Euro at 240 and probably wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Euro isn't that exciting to be honest...with a cutoff low you're going to lose the cold air source. Luckily its Euro at 240 and probably wrong. It's not that exciting if you were hoping for snow, but it's exciting in the sense of a big storm potential. It's also ten days out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 i never said it was going OTS but nice try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Lol owned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Euro isn't that exciting to be honest...with a cutoff low you're going to lose the cold air source. Luckily its Euro at 240 and probably wrong. Cutoff happy at this range. Just remember what it did with our little rain event this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Lol owned With a side of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonli18t Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 http://www.americanw...35#entry1803363 http://www.americanw...n/#entry1801741 http://www.americanw...60#entry1821324 http://www.americanw...65#entry1809407 http://www.americanw...55#entry1808561 http://www.americanw...65#entry1803856 he already backed off in his 2nd reply saying it was a once in a 100 year storm rather than maintaining he never said it would go OTS. The only thing I can think of is that he derives some sort of sexual pleasure from a combination of being stubborn, wrong, and upsetting other posters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderbolt Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 LOL. You posted the GFS multiple times when it recurved Sandy ots and said that it was right and supported by climo Mega, mega fail for you. One of many. nice ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porsche Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 2 good-looking Euro ensemble runs in the row. Not too shabby. Colder and farther south than the Op at 216 with better confluence over southern Canada and New England. Definitely a CAD signal as well. 240 looks quite nice. Thought you guys might want to see this, but appears there is a lack of a 50/50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Thought you guys might want to see this, but appears there is a lack of a 50/50 Thats a snow changing to mix and or rain along the coast low is too close to the coast BUT it means nothing yet since its 10 days out ................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 It's really sad how anybod that posts that they dont see a huge pattern change happening gets ripped apart.. Hey maybe there wrong but guess what they just might be Wright I realize you don't want them to be Wright and either do I.. I would love the pattern to change to a cold and snowy one but unfortunately it doesn't look like that is going to happen sure some models show a change but it's omly for a couple of days and always ten days away!!!!!!!! Maybe we should look back to last years post and we would see that the same things were being said and look how that turned out not saying it's going too happen again but there is that chance so maybe we shouldn't rip everyone apart who doesn't agree with what we think!!!!! How old are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 It's really sad how anybod that posts that they dont see a huge pattern change happening gets ripped apart.. Hey maybe there wrong but guess what they just might be Wright I realize you don't want them to be Wright and either do I.. I would love the pattern to change to a cold and snowy one but unfortunately it doesn't look like that is going to happen sure some models show a change but it's omly for a couple of days and always ten days away!!!!!!!! Maybe we should look back to last years post and we would see that the same things were being said and look how that turned out not saying it's going too happen again but there is that chance so maybe we shouldn't rip everyone apart who doesn't agree with what we think!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 It's really sad how anybod that posts that they dont see a huge pattern change happening gets ripped apart.. Hey maybe there wrong but guess what they just might be Wright I realize you don't want them to be Wright and either do I.. I would love the pattern to change to a cold and snowy one but unfortunately it doesn't look like that is going to happen sure some models show a change but it's omly for a couple of days and always ten days away!!!!!!!! Maybe we should look back to last years post and we would see that the same things were being said and look how that turned out not saying it's going too happen again but there is that chance so maybe we shouldn't rip everyone apart who doesn't agree with what we think!!!!! When you learn how to spell, come back and join us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcad1 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Older then you!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Older than then you!!! Oy, it is than Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 The ECMWF is not at all progressive. Look at how amplified that ridge is at hour 240. look at the heights over AK, a few runs ago they showed strong ridging. That cutoff would only give the area a rain storm, I see the high hights to the north, that blocking is not doing anything for us wtih the lower hights over AK, the cold air source is cut off and its the same pattern we are currently in. This is the worst EURO run in a few days for the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcad1 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Sorry yanksfan typing fast on a cell with auto correct and didn't catch the mistakes before hitting send!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Sorry yanksfan typing fast on a cell with auto correct and didn't catch the mistakes before hitting send!!! So, do you think this winter will suck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 18z gfs looks colder for christmas eve/christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow_Miser Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Another JB map: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Another JB map: clown map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowshack Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Snow88 I really hope not but I don't see anything that shows this pattern changing for more then a couple of days!!! Im praying dt and others are correct but even dt said he was going against what one of the models we're showing I think it was the euro and it showed a Nice storm for the midwest around Christmas but still the same **** here and he said he thinks it's wrong so im still holding out some hope but after last year and then this month might be one of the warmest ever.. I don't have much hope but that's good cause ill be pleasantly surprised if im wrong witch is fine by me.. I dont think theres any question the pattern is changing right now and that the new pattern will last more than a couple of days. IMO the question remains will we get persistent cold with storms passing to our south or will it be cold and dry interrupted by storms passing to our west... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow_Miser Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 The 18z GFS looked half decent for the boxing day system before truncation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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