weathermedic Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 2 nice lightning strikes and 2 loud thunder (rumbles) but no hail here in Boro Park Brooklyn where I am right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Just started pouring here in Ramsey. No wind and no thunder or hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Impressive structure to these storms for mid-December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWCCraig Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 KJFK reporting Thunderstorms with Small Hail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 KJFK reporting Thunderstorms with Small Hail KJFK 182100Z 29016G29KT 7SM TSGSRA BKN046CB BKN070 12/07 A2950 RMK AO2 PK WND 30029/2100 TSB2059RAB2057GRB2059E00GSB00 OCNL LTGICCG OHD TS OHD MOV E P0000 $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWCCraig Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 About time SHORT TERM FORECAST NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NEW YORK NY 401 PM EST TUE DEC 18 2012 NYZ071-073-078-080-176>179-182200- BRONX-KINGS (BROOKLYN)-NASSAU-QUEENS-SUFFOLK-EXTREME SOUTHERN WESTCHESTER- 401 PM EST TUE DEC 18 2012 .NOW... AT 401 PM EST...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR IN UPTON NY INDICATED AN AREA OF SHOWERS WITH EMBEDDED THUNDERSTORMS ALONG A LINE EXTENDING FROM KINGS POINT TO 4 MILES SOUTH OF ATLANTIC BEACH... MOVING EAST AT 30 MPH. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS SHOULD BE IN THE VICINITY OF... WEST HEMPSTEAD...SEARINGTOWN...ROSLYN HEIGHTS AROUND 410 PM... GLEN COVE...SEA CLIFF...WESTBURY AROUND 415 PM... MILL NECK...LOCUST VALLEY...BAYVILLE AROUND 420 PM... SYOSSET...SEAFORD...PLAINEDGE AROUND 425 PM... GUSTY WINDS...AND OCCASIONAL LIGHTNING STRIKES ARE EXPECTED WITH THESE SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. IN ADDITION...SMALL HAIL IS LIKELY. $$ JMC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 12z Euro ensemble mean pops a low right over NYC http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ecmwfens/12zecmwfens850mbTSLPUS216.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowanBrandon Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 GFS going to show another cutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge Weather Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 12z Euro ensemble mean pops a low right over NYC http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ecmwfens/12zecmwfens850mbTSLPUS216.gif Unfortunately, the frame before that kind of stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 12z Euro ensemble mean pops a low right over NYC http://raleighwx.ame...mbTSLPUS216.gif You know even if that happen , it would mean nothing for us in term of snow right , it would be a welcome sight for those in New England . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 You know even if that happen , it would mean nothing for us in term of snow right , it would be a welcome sight for those in New England . Been hearing new england will cash in on this pattern since late november. No one has gotten snow dude. The pattern has been trash. I actually think most of us in here have more snow on the season than new england Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmagan Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 NAM KLGA BUFKIT forecast sounding for 11Z December 21st. Look how far up the troposphere is saturated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Been hearing new england will cash in on this pattern since late november. No one has gotten snow dude. The pattern has been trash. I actually think most of us in here have more snow on the season than new england . Point was whn a coastal pops over nyc and heads NE. It favors new england. His point suggested that somehow a low over nyc was meaningful for us. U dont have to tell me the patterns bad. I b livin it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattinpa Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 The GFS was holding steady with the 0z 850 line before truncation. It wouldn't mean as much though if the ensembles didn't show redevelopment. Hope they continue to look better than the OP GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 GFS still shows snow showers this weekend. Wintry feel this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 0Z GFS OP has a CAD signature - obviously its still wrong trying to cut the LP into the block BUT it is also further east trying to cut so might be beginning to trend towards the ensembles which should be interesting later http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/gfs/00zgfspmsl10mwinds2mtemps156.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 This run came in much better than previous runs . Alot of cold air up north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm At Sea Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 00Z GFS is completely different aloft. H5 low does not close off, remains open, and then goes negatively tilted by 180 HR or so. Huge improvement for EC. 0Z GFS OP has a CAD signature - obviously its still wrong trying to cut the LP into the block BUT it is also further east trying to cut so might be beginning to trend towards the ensembles which should be interesting later http://raleighwx.ame...s2mtemps156.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 check this monster out - wow http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/gfs/00zgfs850mbTSLPp12216.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Go JMA first to the party Let's see if euro agrees with the belly under idea of the GFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 00Z GFS is completely different aloft. H5 low does not close off, remains open, and then goes negatively tilted by 180 HR or so. Huge improvement for EC. Made this up. Here's the h5 flow 06z Xmas morning (150hrs roughly) 0z gfs on the left, 18z on the right. The differences speak for themselves: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 0z GGEM pops a weak low on LI http://meteocentre.com/models/explorateur.php?lang=en&map=na&run=00&mod=gemglb&stn=PNM&comp=1&run2=00&mod2=gemglb&stn2=PNM&hh2=216&fixhh=1&hh=228 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Recap of the overnight - early A.M models - plain and simple - most shifted east more towards their ensembles (gfs -euro ) and this is still a work in progress as no one knows exactly how far east and south they will finally shift with the storm - all depends on the strength and location of the 50/50 low and high pressure building south and east out of Canada - 6z GFS even gives us some precip as early as christmas day http://wxweb.meteost...shtml?text=kewr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 6z GEFS http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/gfsensemble/06zgfsensemblep12192.gif 0z Euro ensemble mean http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ecmwfens/00zecmwfens850mbTSLPUS216.gif Both are different than the op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 6z GEFS http://raleighwx.ame...emblep12192.gif 0z Euro ensemble mean http://raleighwx.ame...mbTSLPUS216.gif Both are different than the op VERY VERY similar - plus thats a classic track with a blocking pattern similar to the one that is developing............ thats at least a SECS and maybe a MECS depending on intensity......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 VERY VERY similar - plus thats a classic track with a blocking pattern similar to the one that is developing............ thats at least a SECS and maybe a MECS depending on intensity......... Well I wouldn't say MECS because on both of those models, it was a transfer. I am liking the fact that the models are trending eastward. The models are probably finally catching on to the blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Well I wouldn't say MECS because on both of those models, it was a transfer. I am liking the fact that the models are trending eastward. The models are probably finally catching on to the blocking. That little funky lead system now showing on the GFS for Christmas that produces some light showers here/snow in upstate NY is likely aiding in the 2nd major storm being suppressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag3 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 That little funky lead system now showing on the GFS for Christmas that produces some light showers here/snow in upstate NY is likely aiding in the 2nd major storm being suppressed. GGEM picked up on this on it's 0z run but is much further south and gives DC and up to Southern Jersey a Christmas snow event. The ECMWF was also pretty close to doing the same thing. It had the system as far south as the GGEM, but a bit weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 GGEM picked up on this on it's 0z run but is much further south and gives DC and up to Southern Jersey a Christmas snow event. The ECMWF was also pretty close to doing the same thing. It had the system as far south as the GGEM, but a bit weaker. The Ukie also shows this wave. http://meteocentre.com/models/explorateur.php?lang=en&map=na&run=00&mod=ukmet&stn=PNM&comp=1&run2=00&mod2=ukmet&stn2=PNM&hh2=120&fixhh=1&hh=144 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 That little funky lead system now showing on the GFS for Christmas that produces some light showers here/snow in upstate NY is likely aiding in the 2nd major storm being suppressed. how does that weak storm on christmas eve cut?..that block will force it south along with the next storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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