OKpowdah Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Two significant shortwaves are forecast to impact the southern Plains over the next 6 days. The first one opens up the Gulf, with a stream of moisture returning to the region. The second wave is even more potent than the first. One of the favorable pattern characteristics here is some degree of blocking over the Northeast ... mostly transient to start, but the first shortwave helps increase downstream blocking ahead of the second shortwave which is why it can amplify so much at a low latitude. As some of us noted a few days ago on the ECMWF, the set up is a little bit familiar from spring severe weather outbreaks ... it's just a lot colder right now ... Anyway, I think some areas could at least get beneficial rain from these two disturbances. The moisture return with the first shortwave. PWATs 3-4sd above normal in OK! The second shortwave DAY 4-8 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 0355 AM CST TUE DEC 11 2012 VALID 141200Z - 191200Z ...DISCUSSION... ALTHOUGH MODEST SPREAD PERSISTS AMONG THE VARIOUS MODEL ENSEMBLE DATA...CONFIDENCE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND TRACK OF A SIGNIFICANT SURFACE CYCLONE ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS TOWARD THE GREAT LAKES REGION THIS COMING FRIDAY/SATURDAY IS FAIRLY HIGH. HOWEVER...AT LEAST IN PART DUE TO SIGNIFICANT GULF MOISTURE ONLY BEING IN THE PROCESS OF RETURNING AS THE SYSTEM EVOLVES... JUXTAPOSITION OF THE MORE FAVORABLE FORCING FOR UPWARD VERTICAL MOTION AND WARM SECTOR BOUNDARY LAYER DESTABILIZATION REMAINS FAR FROM CERTAIN. EVEN SO...THE RISK FOR SEVERE STORMS MAY NOT BE OUT OF THE QUESTION...PARTICULARLY IN A CORRIDOR FROM WEST CENTRAL THROUGH NORTHERN TEXAS AND PARTS OF SOUTHERN OKLAHOMA LATE FRIDAY...THROUGH ARKANSAS/NORTHERN MISSISSIPPI/NORTHERN ALABAMA AND WESTERN MIDDLE TENNESSEE BY LATE SATURDAY. HOWEVER...THE MAIN IMPACT OF THIS WAVE MAY BE TO HELP ESTABLISH SUFFICIENT MOISTENING...ACROSS THE WESTERN/NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO AND GULF COAST REGION...TO CONTRIBUTE TO A MORE SIGNIFICANT SEVERE THREAT WITH THE NEXT VIGOROUS SHORT WAVE IMPULSE...WHICH MAY SUPPORT STRONG SURFACE CYCLOGENESIS ACROSS THE SOUTH CENTRAL U.S. NEXT MONDAY/TUESDAY. THE SPREAD AMONG THE MEDIUM RANGE MODELS AND ENSEMBLE DATA...THOUGH...IS STILL MUCH TOO LARGE TO CONFIDENTLY ASCERTAIN THE POTENTIAL FOR A REGION SEVERE WEATHER EVENT...AND GRAPHICALLY DELINEATE AN AREA. ..KERR.. 12/11/2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 Sam, you may want to amend the title a bit since it appears there will also be some higher elevation snow across CA, NV, AZ and NM during this progressive pattern...this is certainly much different than what we experienced last late fall/early winter across the Southern Rockies/Southern Plains. ABQ: AN UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL STRENGTHEN AS IT DIVES SOUTHWARD ALONG THE CA COASTLINE WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THE SYSTEM WILL THEN EJECT EASTWARD FROM SOUTHERN CA THURSDAY AND LIFT NORTHEASTWARD FROM W CENTRAL TO NE NM THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT WITH A CHANCE FOR PRECIPITATION AREAWIDE. THE HIGHEST PRECIPITATION PROBABILITIES WILL BE FOUND IN THE MOUNTAINS AND ALONG THE CONTINENTAL DIVIDE REGION. THE GILA WILDERNESS REGION COULD BE THE BIGGEST LIQUID WATER EQUIVALENT WINNER WITH UP TO 1 INCH POSSIBLE. THE AMOUNT OF SNOW THAT THIS PACIFIC STORM SYSTEM PRODUCES WILL DEPEND ON THE TIMING OF ARRIVAL OF A SURFACE COLD FRONT...WHICH IS CURRENTLY EXPECTED TO CROSS WESTERN AND CENTRAL AREAS DURING THE DAY FRIDAY. IT MAY NOT CROSS THE PLAINS UNTIL FRIDAY NIGHT. THE POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR SEVERAL INCHES OF SNOW ABOVE 7500 FEET OR SO...WITH A FEW INCHES AT LOWER ELEVATIONS ALONG AND WEST OF THE CONTINENTAL DIVIDE. THE LOWER CHAMA AND UPPER RIO GRANDE RIVER VALLEYS MAY ALSO BENEFIT FROM A FEW INCHES OF SNOW. IF THE UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM SLOWS DOWN AND/OR THE SURFACE COLD FRONT SPEEDS UP...ACCUMULATING SNOW MAY BECOME MORE WIDESPREAD. WILL CONTINUE THE SPS WE HAVE DISCUSSING THIS SYSTEM. THE ECMWF AND ESPECIALLY THE GFS SUGGEST AN UPPER LEVEL TROUGH WILL CROSS NORTHERN NM QUICKLY ON THE HEELS OF THE FIRST WITH A CONTINUATION OF WINTRY WEATHER ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL AND NORTHWEST AREAS. THE PRECIPITATION SHOULD NOT BE AS HEAVY AS WITH THE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT SYSTEM...BUT TEMPERATURES SHOULD BE COLD ENOUGH FOR SNOW AT ALL ELEVATIONS. AFTER A BRIEF BREAK IN THE WEATHER SUNDAY...THE GFS AND ECMWF AGREE ON ANOTHER UPPER TROUGH PASSING QUICKLY SOUTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY. THIS THIRD SYSTEM SHOULD FORM A CLOSED LOW OVER NE NM AS IT CROSSES...AND THIS COULD PROVE FRUITFUL FOR SNOW ACCUMULATIONS AND STRONG WINDS WITH A SURFACE POTENT COLD FRONT ACROSS THE NORTHEAST QUARTER OF THE STATE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 Sam, you may want to amend the title a bit since it appears there will also be some higher elevation snow across CA, NV, AZ and NM during this progressive pattern...this is certainly much different than what we experienced last late fall/early winter across the Southern Rockies/Southern Plains. ABQ: AN UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL STRENGTHEN AS IT DIVES SOUTHWARD ALONG THE CA COASTLINE WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THE SYSTEM WILL THEN EJECT EASTWARD FROM SOUTHERN CA THURSDAY AND LIFT NORTHEASTWARD FROM W CENTRAL TO NE NM THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT WITH A CHANCE FOR PRECIPITATION AREAWIDE. THE HIGHEST PRECIPITATION PROBABILITIES WILL BE FOUND IN THE MOUNTAINS AND ALONG THE CONTINENTAL DIVIDE REGION. THE GILA WILDERNESS REGION COULD BE THE BIGGEST LIQUID WATER EQUIVALENT WINNER WITH UP TO 1 INCH POSSIBLE. THE AMOUNT OF SNOW THAT THIS PACIFIC STORM SYSTEM PRODUCES WILL DEPEND ON THE TIMING OF ARRIVAL OF A SURFACE COLD FRONT...WHICH IS CURRENTLY EXPECTED TO CROSS WESTERN AND CENTRAL AREAS DURING THE DAY FRIDAY. IT MAY NOT CROSS THE PLAINS UNTIL FRIDAY NIGHT. THE POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR SEVERAL INCHES OF SNOW ABOVE 7500 FEET OR SO...WITH A FEW INCHES AT LOWER ELEVATIONS ALONG AND WEST OF THE CONTINENTAL DIVIDE. THE LOWER CHAMA AND UPPER RIO GRANDE RIVER VALLEYS MAY ALSO BENEFIT FROM A FEW INCHES OF SNOW. IF THE UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM SLOWS DOWN AND/OR THE SURFACE COLD FRONT SPEEDS UP...ACCUMULATING SNOW MAY BECOME MORE WIDESPREAD. WILL CONTINUE THE SPS WE HAVE DISCUSSING THIS SYSTEM. THE ECMWF AND ESPECIALLY THE GFS SUGGEST AN UPPER LEVEL TROUGH WILL CROSS NORTHERN NM QUICKLY ON THE HEELS OF THE FIRST WITH A CONTINUATION OF WINTRY WEATHER ACROSS NORTH CENTRAL AND NORTHWEST AREAS. THE PRECIPITATION SHOULD NOT BE AS HEAVY AS WITH THE THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT SYSTEM...BUT TEMPERATURES SHOULD BE COLD ENOUGH FOR SNOW AT ALL ELEVATIONS. AFTER A BRIEF BREAK IN THE WEATHER SUNDAY...THE GFS AND ECMWF AGREE ON ANOTHER UPPER TROUGH PASSING QUICKLY SOUTHEASTWARD ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY. THIS THIRD SYSTEM SHOULD FORM A CLOSED LOW OVER NE NM AS IT CROSSES...AND THIS COULD PROVE FRUITFUL FOR SNOW ACCUMULATIONS AND STRONG WINDS WITH A SURFACE POTENT COLD FRONT ACROSS THE NORTHEAST QUARTER OF THE STATE. Done! Looks like a very impressive pattern ahead, that promises to be active for much of the CONUS. Troughs in both the west and east, with a blocking ridge setting up over eastern Canada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye05 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 ...SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO PARTS OF THE OZARK PLATEAU... GUIDANCE REMAINS SUGGESTIVE THAT THE LACK OF BETTER PHASING BETWEEN MID/UPPER FORCING FOR UPWARD VERTICAL MOTION AND BOUNDARY LAYER DESTABILIZATION WILL HINDER THE RISK FOR SEVERE STORM DEVELOPMENT. MID/UPPER 50S DEW POINTS MAY ONLY ADVECT AS FAR NORTH AS SOUTHWESTERN OKLAHOMA/NORTHWEST TEXAS PORTIONS OF A DEVELOPING DRY LINE BY EARLY FRIDAY EVENING...WHEN 60F+ SURFACE DEW POINTS MAY BE IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING NORTHWARD INTO CENTRAL TEXAS. THIS APPEARS LIKELY TO BE GENERALLY SOUTH OF THE AXIS OF THE CYCLONIC MID-LEVEL JET STREAK AS IT NOSES INTO THE SOUTH CENTRAL PLAINS. HOWEVER...MOISTURE RETURN/DESTABILIZATION AND LIFT ABOVE A RESIDUAL COOL/STABLE NEAR SURFACE LAYER IS EXPECTED TO SUPPORT ELEVATED STORM DEVELOPMENT...WHICH COULD BE BECOME CAPABLE OF PRODUCING MARGINALLY SEVERE HAIL...GENERALLY NORTH OF THE RED RIVER...ACROSS OKLAHOMA...BEFORE SPREADING INTO ARKANSAS OVERNIGHT. FARTHER SOUTH...IT MAY NOT BE OUT OF THE QUESTION THAT CONTINUED NORTHWARD ADVECTION OF BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE...AND LIFT ASSOCIATED WITH LOW-LEVEL WARM ADVECTION...COULD SUPPORT BOUNDARY LAYER BASED OR NEAR BOUNDARY LAYER BASED STORM DEVELOPMENT ACROSS PARTS OF NORTHERN TEXAS OVERNIGHT. IF THIS OCCURS...VERTICAL SHEAR WILL BE MORE THAN SUFFICIENT FOR SUPERCELLS. ..KERR.. 12/12/2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettjrob Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Shear profiles look mighty impressive for south Texas, but the NAM has really backed off on instability over the past few runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 SHORT RANGE FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD 316 AM EST THU DEC 13 2012 VALID 12Z THU DEC 13 2012 - 12Z SAT DEC 15 2012 ...A COMPLEX STORM TO DEVELOP OVER THE SOUTHWEST... ...TEMPERATURES WILL BE 10 T0 15 DEGREES ABOVE AVERAGE FROM THE UPPER GREAT LAKES TO THE CENTRAL HIGH PLAINS... A COMPLEX STORM OVER SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WILL COME TOGETHER OVER THE SOUTHWEST AS THE SYSTEM MOVES OUT OVER THE PLAINS BY FRIDAY EVENING. THE STORM WILL PRODUCE LIGHT TO MODERATE RAIN OVER PARTS OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA THAT WILL ADVANCE EASTWARD TO PARTS OF THE SOUTHWEST AND NORTHWESTERN MEXICO BY FRIDAY MORNING. SNOW WILL ALSO DEVELOP OVER THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF CALIFORNIA AND THE GREAT BASIN THAT WILL MOVE EASTWARD TO PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN/CENTRAL ROCKIES AND THE GREAT BASIN BY FRIDAY EVENING. BY FRIDAY EVENING AS THE STORM MOVES ONTO THE PLAINS ... RAIN WILL DEVELOP OVER THE CENTRAL PLAINS INTO THE MIDDLE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL DEVELOP OVER PART OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS ON FRIDAY EVENING ALSO. MEANWHILE ... A WEAKENING FRONT WILL MOVE ONSHORE OVER THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST BY THURSDAY EVENING AND DISSIPATE BY FRIDAY AFTERNOON. THE SYSTEM WILL PRODUCE COASTAL RAIN AND SNOW AT HIGHER ELEVATIONS OVER THE NORTHWEST THURSDAY EVENING INTO FRIDAY MORNING. THE RAIN WILL END BY FRIDAY AFTERNOON WHILE THE SNOW WILL CONTINUE OVER PARTS OF THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS OF THE NORTHWEST INTO PARTS OF THE NORTHERN ROCKIES BY FRIDAY EVENING. ELSEWHERE ... A FRONT OVER THE UPPER GREAT LAKES WILL BE QUASI-STATIONARY THROUGH FRIDAY. SNOW WILL DEVELOP NEAR THE BOUNDARY THROUGH EARLY FRIDAY MORNING. MOREOVER ... SNOW WILL DEVELOP OVER PARTS OF NORTHERN MAINE BY FRIDAY EVENING. IN ADDITION ... LOW PRESSURE MOVING AWAY FROM THE SOUTHEAST COAST WILL PRODUCE LIGHT TO MODERATE RAIN ALONG THE CAROLINA COAST ENDING BY THURSDAY AFTERNOON. SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL DEVELOP OVER PARTS OF FLORIDA THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT. ZIEGENFELDER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 The 12Z GFS is suggesting a fairly good hit for the White Mountains as well as Mount Lemmon in AZ and the San Jaun/Jemez/Sangre De Cristo on down to the Sacramento Mountians into the Gila Highlands/Black Range... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick7032 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Shear profiles look mighty impressive for south Texas, but the NAM has really backed off on instability over the past few runs. I spent part of the shift modifying soundings for north central texas. At all three points that I did...San Angelo...Throckmorton (NE of Abilene)...and Wichita Falls...if you used 71/57 as inital conditions...it gave about 550-660 cape with only 26 inhibition. That would be enough for at least elevated supercells given 0-1 bulk shear of 30-40 kts. 1000-700mb RH plots show ~65% behind the initial moisture surge...so some differential heating is possible. Although I'm not "overly excited"...it certainly bears watching. As a side note I attached an interesting graphic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 SHORT RANGE FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD 335 AM EST FRI DEC 14 2012 VALID 12Z FRI DEC 14 2012 - 12Z SUN DEC 16 2012 ...A FAST-MOVING LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IN THE SOUTHWEST WILL CREATE PERIODS OF HEAVY SHOWERS AND SNOW IN HIGHER ELEVATIONS... ...SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS TO BE EXPECTED THIS WEEKEND IN THE CENTRAL PLAINS... THE MAIN STORY OF THE FORECAST IS A MATURE FRONTAL BOUNDARY SITUATED IN THE SOUTHWEST. CURRENTLY...SCATTERED TO BROKEN SHOWERS ARE FALLING ALONG AND AROUND THIS BOUNDARY. THIS ACTIVITY IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE AT LEAST THROUGH MIDDAY FRIDAY. LOCAL HEAVY RAINFALL IS POSSIBLE...AND SNOW WILL FALL IN THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS. LOCAL NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE OFFICES IN THE SOUTHWEST HAVE ISSUED WINTER WEATHER ADVISORIES AND WINTER STORM WARNINGS DUE TO THIS FRONT. ANOTHER FRONTAL BOUNDARY...THOUGH NOT AS ROBUST...WILL MAKE ITS WAY OVER LAND IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST...GENERATING SHOWERS AND ALSO SNOW IN THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS OVERNIGHT AND INTO FRIDAY AFTERNOON. ONCE THE AFOREMENTIONED SOUTHWEST SYSTEM PUSHES ITS WAY INTO THE CENTRAL PLAINS...SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WILL SPREAD ACROSS THE REGION BY SATURDAY. PRECIPITATION WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND WINTRY PRECIPITATION CAN BE EXPECTED ON THE BACK-EDGE OF THE SYSTEM. DURING SATURDAY MORNING AND INTO THE AFTERNOON...THE PRECIPITATION WILL MOVE INTO THE MIDWEST. MOST OF THE COVERAGE IN PRECIPITATION WILL DECREASE BY SATURDAY EVENING. ONCE AGAIN...ANOTHER FRONT WILL MAKE ITS WAY TOWARDS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND WILL PRODUCE AT TIMES HEAVY SNOWFALL ESPECIALLY IN THE CASCADES AND DOWN INTO THE SIERRA MOUNTAINS. SCATTERED TO BROKEN SHOWERS WILL CONCENTRATE ALONG THE OREGON AND WASHINGTON COAST. MEANWHILE...ALL REMAINS QUIET AND STABLE IN THE EAST AS HIGH PRESSURE CONTINUES TO DOMINATE OVER THE REGION. THE ONLY EXCEPTION OF THIS WILL BE ALONG THE EAST COAST OF FLORIDA AND UP INTO THE CAROLINAS...ONSHORE FLOW WILL PROMOTE SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. FANNING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnWeatherman Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Tornado Warning just east of Amarillo, TX. Funnel reported in Washburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocoAko Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 One fatality reported with trucks being blown over and there is a tornado report showing up now, as well. 77MPH wind gust west of Lubbock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettjrob Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Damage shots from a friend in Canyon (S of AMA): http://s135.beta.photobucket.com/user/not_a_leader_of_men/library/Dec%2014%202012%20Canyon%20TX%20Storm%20and%20Damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 That was a nice forced line. Several QLCS-like spin-ups as it pushed through and to the east of the AMA area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick7032 Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 It was an interesting event to watch. THE FIRST DECEMBER PANDHANDLE TORNADOES ON RECORD. I would have been up there if not having to be on shift. http://www.srh.noaa..../?n=dec14storms NWS AMA FAcebook page has some nice images: On the attached image the wind speends in the text box were off center as I bumbed the mouse...but when cursored over the area it showed 33 inbound next to 53 outbound at 614 ft. where you see the "kinks". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1130 AM CST SAT DEC 15 2012 VALID 161200Z - 171200Z ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS SOUTHEAST TX/CENTRAL GULF COAST STATES... ...SOUTHEAST TX/CENTRAL GULF COAST REGION TO TN VALLEY... BROAD CYCLONIC UPPER FLOW WILL PREVAIL OVER THE MAJORITY OF THE CONUS ON SUNDAY. SEVERAL LOW AMPLITUDE DISTURBANCES ALOFT WILL CROSS THE REGION /AND ADJACENT MIDWEST/ DURING THE PERIOD...BUT MORE SUBSTANTIAL TROUGH AMPLIFICATION IS EXPECTED TO OCCUR OVER THE PLAINS/OZARKS SUNDAY NIGHT/EARLY MONDAY. ISOLATED TO SCATTERED SHOWERS/SOME TSTMS WILL LIKELY BE ONGOING ACROSS THE REGION EARLY SUNDAY IN ASSOCIATION WITH PERSISTENT WARM ADVECTION AND A STEADY MOISTURE INFLUX AHEAD OF A FRONT. RELATIVELY WEAK LAPSE RATES ALOFT AND A LIMITED NORTHWARD MOISTURE RETURN...ALONG WITH CLOUD COVER/POSSIBLE PRECIPITATION...SHOULD LIMIT THE DEGREE OF DESTABILIZATION ACROSS THE REGION. EVEN SO...SOME OF THESE STORMS COULD BECOME SURFACE BASED AS THE BOUNDARY LAYER WARMS...WITH AT LEAST SOME ISOLATED SEVERE WIND/PERHAPS TORNADO POTENTIAL. THE MOST PROBABLE SCENARIO FOR STORM INTENSIFICATION MAY OCCUR ACROSS PARTS OF SOUTHEAST TX INTO LA/PARTS OF MS SUNDAY AFTERNOON AND SUNDAY NIGHT/EARLY MONDAY NEAR AN ADVANCING/ACCELERATING COLD FRONT. SOMEWHAT STRONGER DESTABILIZATION IS LIKELY IN THESE AREAS IN THE PRESENCE OF A HIGHER THETA-E AIRMASS...WITH THE REGION INCREASINGLY COMING UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THE AMPLIFYING UPPER TROUGH OVER THE PLAINS/OZARKS BY SUNDAY NIGHT. WHERE STORMS DO INCREASE/MATURE...VERY STRONG DEEP LAYER SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW AND ASSOCIATED VERTICAL SHEAR OF 50-80 KT /0-6 KM/ WILL SUPPORT FAST-MOVING LINE SEGMENTS/SOME SUPERCELLS WITH ASSOCIATED POTENTIAL FOR DAMAGING WIND/ISOLATED TORNADOES. ..GUYER.. 12/15/2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 No daytime heating but judging by 850 winds and temps thre's tornado outbreak potential across the southeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 GFS has significant potential around the Ozarks/Northern LA eastward to the MS River on the evening of the 19th and then eastward possibly overnight into the 20th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reimer Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 GFS has significant potential around the Ozarks/Northern LA eastward to the MS River on the evening of the 19th and then eastward possibly overnight into the 20th. Yes, it certainly does! While I would expect the timing to change a bit, hopefully a tad slower so it might be chase-worthy closer to home in D/FW, that solution would also be problematic for wind/dust/fire in much of western Oklahoma and Texas. This system now has my full attention after today's small threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Well the Euro certainly does as well, the wording for this should increase from the SPC. I'd even go as far as to throw the "o" word out there for the 96 hr prog on the Euro. CIPS analogs has some impressive company, with 11/15/05, 1/7-8/08 and 11/15-16/89 showing up among them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Severe Thunderstorm Watch issued for portions of Central/SE/E Texas/Louisiana until 1:00 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disc Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Just now showing up in the range of the 12z NAM. It looks a little more aggressive with it than the GFS. 12z GFS continues to look nice through Northern LA, Arkansas, and S MO. Instability looks kinda "meh". SPC does have a D4-D5 discussion out for the SE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Looking ahead to mid week, the 12Z Op GFS suggest a 1052mb Arctic High developing across Canada as heights build in Alaska suggesting a very strong blocking signal and a bit of a cross Polar flow. The model will likely not handle these features well as a potent Winter Storm ejects from the 4 Corners Region and taps into the very chilly air across Western Canada. Stiff N/NW winds behind that Winter Storm should be enough to dislodge a piece of the very cold air over the Yukon Territory bringing it S into the Plains near Christmas. EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD 1059 AM EST SUN DEC 16 2012 VALID 12Z WED DEC 19 2012 - 12Z SUN DEC 23 2012 ...A STORMY WINTER PATTERN FOR THE MIDWEST...GREAT LAKES AND NORTHEAST... THE 15-12Z AND 16-00Z GEFS/ECMWF ENSEMBLE MEANS REMAIN IN VERY GOOD LONGWAVE MEDIUM RANGE AGREEMENT THROUGH DAY 5-6 ACROSS THE CONUS. AN ENERGETIC PACIFIC SYSTEM EJECTS EAST-NORTHEASTWARD THROUGH THE CENTRAL PLAINS...AND DEEPENS AS IT MIGRATES NORTHEASTWARD THROUGH THE MIDWEST...GREAT LAKES AND THE NORTHEAST. THIS SYSTEM (WHAT AMOUNTS TO A BROAD OCCLUSION ON THE SURFACE GRAPHICS BY DAY 6) OPENS THE DOOR FOR AN APPRECIABLY COLD AND BLUSTERY NORTHWEST FLOW PATTERN AND HIGH SURFACE PRESSURE TO SURGE THROUGH THE SOUTHEAST AND THROUGH THE ENTIRE GULF COAST AND FLORIDA. THIS SYSTEM SETTLES IN CENTRAL QUEBEC BY DAY 6...WITH SEVERAL EMBEDDED MID-LEVEL WAVES (POSSIBLY AN ALBERTA CLIPPER-TYPE SYSTEM) TO REINFORCE AND CONTINUE TO GRADUALLY CARVE OUT THE UPPER TROUGH ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES AND NORTHEAST. THIS PATTERN WILL YIELD A GENERALLY COLDER AIRMASS IN PLACE EAST OF 95W...INCLUDING THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE MS VALLEY...THE GREAT LAKES...NORTHEAST...THE OHIO VALLEY...AND PARTS OF THE NORTHERN MID ATLANTIC STATES. THE DAY 6-7 FLOW PATTERN CONTINUES WITH A TROUGH IN THE NORTHEAST QUARTER OF THE NATION AND A STAGNANT...SLOW-MOVING TROUGH ALONG THE WEST COAST. A RIDGE DOMINATES THE CENTRAL PORTION OF THE CONTINENT. THE ECMWF/GEFS MEANS AND THEIR DETERMINISTIC RUNS ARE PERHAPS A BIT QUICK IN ALLOWING THE BULK OF THIS PACIFIC TROUGH TO MIGRATE INLAND GIVEN THE CUTOFF NATURE OF THE SURFACE WAVE AND THE BLOCKY PATTERN DEVELOPING IN THE CANADIAN MARITIMES. BOTH MEANS ESSENTIALLY KEEP THE CYCLONIC FLOW MAINLY OVER OPEN WATER AND MAINTAIN A SPLIT-FLOW PATTERN ALOFT ALONG THE WEST COAST. THIS WOULD GENERALLY KEEP THE SURFACE WAVE MIGRATING SOUTHWARD ALONG THE CALIFORNIA COAST THEN ATTEMPTING TO COME ASHORE BENEATH THE SOUTHERN STREAM IN A SPLIT-FLOW SCENARIO. VOJTESAK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srain Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Fairly significant signal via the 12Z GFES of a rather potent storm ejecting from California across the Four Corners and on out into the Plains. Higher elevation snow including the front range are looking a bit better with a severe weather episode across the warm sector for portions of E Texas/Arkansas and Northern Louisiana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baroclinic_instability Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Anyone going to start a thread for the leeside cyclone midweek? First legit CO low of the winter...although is isn't 100% classical. This is a central plains to high plains event...including the Front Range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Done Baro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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