A-L-E-K Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Our quality soaking is vanishing as this storm trends slower and further northwest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 This storm looks like another Northern Michigan special, looks like a mix around here in Central MI, maybe the rain/snow line near Houghton Lake or north of that... on a not so related note, I'm gonna go see 2 of my favorite weather girls tomorrow night Live on TV (WNEM weather road show) lol. Mixing will likely be an issue for the eastern UP. I was planning on heading up to Newberry, now I'm thinking Marquette. This hinges on how the storm plays out, I might be sitting on my butt at home staring at models and dreaming of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Is the line of thinking still correct that the stronger/further NW this storm tracks the better chance that the following storm pulls a NW trend, or has that gone by the wayside due to other players on the map? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Is the line of thinking still correct that the stronger/further NW this storm tracks the better chance that the following storm pulls a NW trend, or has that gone by the wayside due to other players on the map? yeah the other storm is a non-starter for everyone...it isn't happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 rain drops here... snow eater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 We need to stop watching storms and look for a pattern... Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 We need to stop watching storms and look for a pattern... Jon pretty sure plenty have been doing that...you didn't miss the pattern change talk that was all the rage 7 days ago, and 7 days before that, and 7 days before that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 pretty sure plenty have been doing that...you didn't miss the pattern change talk that was all the rage 7 days ago, and 7 days before that, and 7 days before that.. Hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Dang - have to drive 12 hours home to Marysville for Christmas, was hoping for some snow this Christmas... I was all excited... I hate "snow eaters" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFF Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 We need to stop watching storms and look for a pattern... Jon Pattern changed at the begining of the month from dry to wetter conditions around here. All we need is for Jack frost to grow some balls and stop running back north on every low heading north. Looking at the extended this warm infiltration doesn't stop any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Pattern changed at the begining of the month from dry to wetter conditions around here. All we need is for Jack frost to grow some balls and stop running back north on every low heading north. Looking at the extended this warm infiltration doesn't stop any time soon. The steady diet of 2500 mile wide storms crashing into BC needs to end. I wouldn't be shocked if the BC ski resorts aren't dealing with TOO MUCH snow and avalanche danger is immense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 The steady diet of 2500 mile wide storms crashing into BC needs to end. I wouldn't be shocked if the BC ski resorts aren't dealing with TOO MUCH snow and avalanche danger is immense. i'm considering spring break in whistler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 i'm considering spring break in whistler If money wasn't an issue, I would pack up and move to Vancouver. Amazing snowmobiling and skiing is 100% guaranteed 2 hours away + voted the most livable city in the world. No heat in the summer, excellent for outdoors-men. Notice that western winter freaks never visit these boards, snow is always a lock in the mountains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 One good thing about this storm is a good amt of rain should fall. The Mississippi River isn't going to have barge traffic anymore if more rain doesn't fall in its basin. Wouldn't any city out west work? Seattle or Portland? If I had one city to choose to live in, it would be Portland or in that area. Mild winters, mountains, mild summer, sun, crazy variety of climate within short distance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 If money wasn't an issue, I would pack up and move to Vancouver. Amazing snowmobiling and skiing is 100% guaranteed 2 hours away + voted the most livable city in the world. No heat in the summer, excellent for outdoors-men. Notice that western winter freaks never visit these boards, snow is always a lock in the mountains. I know really, they must be content with the weather they have! I would say mountain snow is within 2-3 hours reach from any western city. Especially PacNW cities. This storm - Forecast calling for heavy rain. Drought dissipating some more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 If I had one city to choose to live in, it would be Portland or in that area...sun... If "sun" two times a year works for you, then godspeed the move to Portland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 If money wasn't an issue, I would pack up and move to Vancouver. Amazing snowmobiling and skiing is 100% guaranteed 2 hours away + voted the most livable city in the world. No heat in the summer, excellent for outdoors-men. Notice that western winter freaks never visit these boards, snow is always a lock in the mountains. But it never snows in Vancouver! I know your a big snowmobile traveler, and it would be awesome knowing feet upon feet of snow are a 2-hour drive away, but NEVER seeing snow in your backyard (at least for a person like me) would SUCK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 If "sun" two times a year works for you, then godspeed the move to Portland. I do NOT get the whole Seattle/Portland thing. Beautiful areas, but to be under a constant overcast, have it rain all the time, and hardly ever see snow...umm no thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertSul Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 But it never snows in Vancouver! I know your a big snowmobile traveler, and it would be awesome knowing feet upon feet of snow are a 2-hour drive away, but NEVER seeing snow in your backyard (at least for a person like me) would SUCK. Vancouver International Airport's snowiest year saw over 95 inches (1971). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 But it never snows in Vancouver! I know your a big snowmobile traveler, and it would be awesome knowing feet upon feet of snow are a 2-hour drive away, but NEVER seeing snow in your backyard (at least for a person like me) would SUCK. ? Vancouver averages 19" per year. That's more than DC.. Vancouver International Airport's snowiest year saw over 95 inches (1971). This. You REALLY need to broaden your weather/climate Horizons Josh.. There's a whole world out there outside of Michigan.. I do NOT get the whole Seattle/Portland thing. Beautiful areas, but to be under a constant overcast, have it rain all the time, and hardly ever see snow...umm no thanks. Again, Record at Portland for a season is 60.9" Record 1 day snowfall at SEA: 21.4" 1950 DET 1 day record: 24.1" 4/1886 It snows in the PAC NW. Sometimes a lot. That's why there are hundreds of Western-Winter Weenies out there, some of which that make you look like Tropical in comparison.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastFromTheEast Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 If money wasn't an issue, I would pack up and move to Vancouver. Amazing snowmobiling and skiing is 100% guaranteed 2 hours away + voted the most livable city in the world. No heat in the summer, excellent for outdoors-men. Notice that western winter freaks never visit these boards, snow is always a lock in the mountains. They don't because they have their own active "Western-Centric" WX-board to post at. Checkout Geos's sig for more info.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I do NOT get the whole Seattle/Portland thing. Beautiful areas, but to be under a constant overcast, have it rain all the time, and hardly ever see snow...umm no thanks. To be fair, when you take Seattle and Portland out of the equation, Detroit is easily one of the cloudiest cities in the country (although it snows and it doesn't rain all of the time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I do NOT get the whole Seattle/Portland thing. Beautiful areas, but to be under a constant overcast, have it rain all the time, and hardly ever see snow...umm no thanks. PAC NW has the best summers! 70's/80's all the time They have a Rainy season Detroit weather overall kind of blows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 ? Vancouver averages 19" per year. That's more than DC.. This. You REALLY need to broaden your weather/climate Horizons Josh.. There's a whole world out there outside of Michigan.. Again, Record at Portland for a season is 60.9" Record 1 day snowfall at SEA: 21.4" 1950 DET 1 day record: 24.1" 4/1886 EXCUSE me? I know PLENTY about the climate in A LOT of places outside MI. I know the climate of the midwest and northeast probably better than you know the climate of your own backyard. I was not familiar with that vancouver area but I had heard from a Canadian coworker that it never snows in Vancouver, and also that they have some palm trees there with their mild climate. Right from Vancouvers wiki page "There is a general misconception among visitors and residents of other parts of Canada that Vancouver does not receive any snow at all, but in fact there has never been a winter in which traceable snow has not been observed at Vancouver International Airport". I am sorry, I was wrong on Vancouver. But what the hell does the record snowiest season in Portland and Seattle have to do with a snowlover wanting to move there? Those places (especially Portland) frequently have winters with NO measurable snowfall AT ALL. They are in a very rainy climate so when the cold air is just right they can get a major snowfall, but it is infrequent in the cities. Give me a break. Portland: Avg annual snowfall: 2.4" Days with snowcover: 1.5 Seattle: Avg annual snowfall: 5.9" Days with snowcover: 4.1 Sounds like a snowmobilers dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 PAC NW has the best summers! 70's/80's all the time They have a Rainy season Detroit weather overall kind of blows I would take a PAC NW summer in a heartbeat. The other 3 seasons Detroit hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I would take a PAC NW summer in a heartbeat. The other 3 seasons Detroit hands down. Winter: Detroit Summer: Seattle By far Spring: Detroit Fall: probably split So I guess its even Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 lol This storm system sucks so bad, like several previous systems, that the discussion degraded into a climatological debate. I'm looking forward to the rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 NAM actually gives a couple of inches of backside fluff with this thing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 EXCUSE me? I know PLENTY about the climate in A LOT of places outside MI. I know the climate of the midwest and northeast probably better than you know the climate of your own backyard. I was not familiar with that vancouver area but I had heard from a Canadian coworker that it never snows in Vancouver, and also that they have some palm trees there with their mild climate. Right from Vancouvers wiki page "There is a general misconception among visitors and residents of other parts of Canada that Vancouver does not receive any snow at all, but in fact there has never been a winter in which traceable snow has not been observed at Vancouver International Airport". I am sorry, I was wrong on Vancouver. But what the hell does the record snowiest season in Portland and Seattle have to do with a snowlover wanting to move there? Those places (especially Portland) frequently have winters with NO measurable snowfall AT ALL. They are in a very rainy climate so when the cold air is just right they can get a major snowfall, but it is infrequent in the cities. Give me a break. Portland: Avg annual snowfall: 2.4" Days with snowcover: 1.5 Seattle: Avg annual snowfall: 5.9" Days with snowcover: 4.1 Sounds like a snowmobilers dream It's not about the backyard, its what's 2 hours down the road. Be careful with the s-word, Stebo hates them. Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisale Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 I'm Canadian with many friends in Vancouver so I'll weigh in on this. It is true, it rarely snows in Vancouver proper. In fact, the average daily lows for the entire year do not get below freezing.That is not to say it never snows though. What does accumulate usually melts quite fast. BUT that's not to say there's now snow nearby. Less than an hour's drive will take you to the mountains where skiing begins in early December or even November every year. Anyway, back on topic. Looks like a rain/snow mix transitioning mostly to rain for Southern Ontario with this system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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