dryslot Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 saw that but even that runs it west of us! i know its the gfs and is west bias so hopefully the 20th and 24th/25th give us 2 good storms That far out it could end up anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 If the 00z GFS verified verbatim through D16 it would be one of the more epic SNE meltdowns we've ever seen lol lol, Whoever ends up on the wrong side of the gradient are not going to be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 lol, Whoever ends up on the wrong side of the gradient are not going to be happy Hideous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Powderfreak snow angels for Christmas though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Better hope for some blocking to get some of these to cut underneath SNE, Could score big with some of these upcoming systems with a little luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Powderfreak snow angels for Christmas though. It would be wagons to Jackman for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 If the 00z GFS verified verbatim through D16 it would be one of the more epic SNE meltdowns we've ever seen lol Never fear, it's the GFS 384. It succeeds in not verifying almost 100% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 The record books would be full of KU storms if you got any of the ones the 384hr GFS has ever had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstorm Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 stupid things bolded He's actually spot on with a lot of those comments, especially about the gradient pattern... It is winter, the entire N Hem mid lays ate a massive gradient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 He's actually spot on with a lot of those comments, especially about the gradient pattern... It is winter, the entire N Hem mid lays ate a massive gradient. people in new england know that a "gradient pattern" is a specific thing. It's not just warm north cold south. The gradient tends to be enhanced relative to normal as a -PNA SW troughing does battle with a -EPO/-NAO forcing cold air into Canada and the northern tier of the US. Even HM uses the phrase "La Nina gradient pattern" come on now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Are you agreeing that patterns don't really exist? I'm not even sure what to think about that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 This board is awesome. Sultan laid it out well that many are scared (shaking) still of last year. And also there is the added layer of early december not goin the way it seemd to be lookin earlier after nov sucked us in w snow and cold, and YES it very early still even if we punt to the 20th(gasp lol) but this wouldn't be quite the scare on dec 8'th if last year didn't leave many with post traumatic stress. For some reason in this current pattern i wish the models only ran like every 3 days, playing w my emotions 2x a day is the euro/gfs ensembles, teleconnectors, sun activity, mjo charts, ahhhhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Every thread derails. If it snows AVERAGE this year 80% of the bb will b**ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhamwx205 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Another GFS run another solution....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Yea well it's not a snap shot but a seasonal mean. Tons of storms Nov 12-13, 2004 Dec 15, 2004 Dec 19-20, 2004 Dec 26-27, 2004 Jan 05-06, 2005 Jan 08, 2005 Jan 11-12, 2005 Jan 16-17, 2005 Jan 19-20, 2005 Jan 22-24, 2005 ... MAP ... Image Jan 26-27, 2005 Feb 03-04, 2005 Feb 10-11, 2005 Feb 13, 2005 Feb 21, 2005 Feb 24-25, 2005 Feb 28-Mar 01, 2005 Mar 06, 2005 Mar 08-09, 2005 Mar 11, 2005 Mar 12, 2005 Mar 23-34, 2005 omfg @ all those storms, every damn week, wow, just amazing imo. Steve or scott or anyone,do you have any info on the epo pna for dec/jan when we had + nao , also did we squeeze in a -nao for the jan o5 blizzard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 we're beginning to lose the chances of real Aleutian ridging in the next 10 days imo. The ensembles are getting a bit lackluster for that...disconcerting, I think. Why is this MJO upcoming having like no effect on the models? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dsnowx53 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 we're beginning to lose the chances of real Aleutian ridging in the next 10 days imo. The ensembles are getting a bit lackluster for that...disconcerting, I think. Why is this MJO upcoming having like no effect on the models? I think the MJO is actually fighting the Aleutian ridging, since a phase 1 MJO composite for December shows a strong Aleutian low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8611Blizz Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I can only speak for myself but I would say the service economy is going to take a very bad hit if this winter is even remotely similar to last years. It's a legit concern for those of us who depend on at least 1/4 to 1/3rd of average snowfall, now more so than ever. I lived through the 80's and the early 90's and all I'll say is, I'm not going back. I was in school for most of the 80's and I can count on two hands the total number of snowdays we had, and if I recall correctly (always a guess) Boston went four years (88-92) without cracking 10" in a single storm. So yes the meltdowns will happen but just be thankful if you still get paid no matter the weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Powderfreak snow angels for Christmas though. walk towards the glowing light. Ugly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 saw that but even that runs it west of us! i know its the gfs and is west bias so hopefully the18 and 24th/25th give us 2 good storms Huh? The GFS tends to be too suppressed, if anything....but at that range, nothing matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I can only speak for myself but I would say the service economy is going to take a very bad hit if this winter is even remotely similar to last years. It's a legit concern for those of us who depend on at least 1/4 to 1/3rd of average snowfall, now more so than ever. I lived through the 80's and the early 90's and all I'll say is, I'm not going back. I was in school for most of the 80's and I can count on two hands the total number of snowdays we had, and if I recall correctly (always a guess) Boston went four years (88-92) without cracking 10" in a single storm. So yes the meltdowns will happen but just be thankful if you still get paid no matter the weather. Yeah, but the teachers would begin summer vacation right on time (hi, Dave). Pretty wide--and seemingly random--spread of temps across SNE this morning. 37/32 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 people in new england know that a "gradient pattern" is a specific thing. It's not just warm north cold south. The gradient tends to be enhanced relative to normal as a -PNA SW troughing does battle with a -EPO/-NAO forcing cold air into Canada and the northern tier of the US. Even HM uses the phrase "La Nina gradient pattern" come on now... Thank you.... Dan when we refer to a gradient up here it is usually in the context of having an intense gradient over or near us that storms run along, particularly SWFE. Don't buy into the senseless provocation that dude is bringing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Interesting Euro run for the storm next weekend.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 That recurving Typhoon should also help get some troughiness into the east next week. Congrats Ginx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Interesting Euro run for the storm next weekend.. It looks like HPC's overnight medium range is going with the Euro and it's ensembles for the medium range pattern. No one has discussed it yet but based on the GFS discussion overnight I hope that is a good sign. What is interesting about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Next weekend looks more interesting for NNE on the ensembles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 All mighty ECMWF looks not as nice... going forward. This weekend looks messy. Then the 19th-20th storm looks good for Chicago. A good Sou'Easter to welcome the holidays... check out those southerly winds along the coast at H85. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I like the high position for next weekend..West based NAO still trying to build..We'll see I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Wow...just brutal in the long range. I really feel its time to punt december. The clock is ticking, as another week clicks by. Nothing resembles any type of gradient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Rare meltdown posts the last 2 days from Allsnow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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