powderfreak Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 They are pretty close to the same at this time range. Exactly! Its just funny to throw one out completely because the solution isn't desirable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Exactly! Its just funny to throw one out completely because the solution isn't desirable. This surprises you? Euro rolling in a little weaker with the high, little weaker with the storm, similar timing. First 90 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Euro is so different out west on this run through 72 hours, I don't know where to begin. There will definitelybe some changes here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 This surprises you? Euro rolling in a little weaker with the high, little weaker with the storm, similar timing. First 90 hours. Haha no, not really. If the ECM isn't favorable, we won't toss it but we'll find some bias and say it will trend more favorable. Gonna be a long week because in another 24 hours when the CMC does its wrapped up bomb thing over Detroit we'll be tearing it a new one, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Yes the CMC is definitely a more accurate model than the GFS. It is comparable, yes. GFS huggers have no reason to turn up their noses at the CMC. Equally good (and bad) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 It is comparable, yes. GFS huggers have no reason to turn up their noses at the CMC. Equally good (and bad) Yup. Nice sum up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Haha no, not really. If the ECM isn't favorable, we won't toss it but we'll find some bias and say it will trend more favorable. Gonna be a long week because in another 24 hours when the CMC does its wrapped up bomb thing over Detroit we'll be tearing it a new one, too. BTW I was joking with the 2nd part, nobody caught that. The Euro changed appreciably too as Will noted. The first storm looks even worse, high is weaker. Down south it looks like everything is forming later. This is why you cannot get too excited at D6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 It is comparable, yes. GFS huggers have no reason to turn up their noses at the CMC. Equally good (and bad) I know since I'm from NNE you probably assume that was the point of the post... it was more that again, all solutions are on the table and the GFS would have just as good a shot as the CMC or the ECM for that matter at this point. It was not to say the GFS is the almighty but you can't toss it in favor of another if they are comparable. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Haha no, not really. If the ECM isn't favorable, we won't toss it but we'll find some bias and say it will trend more favorable. Gonna be a long week because in another 24 hours when the CMC does its wrapped up bomb thing over Detroit we'll be tearing it a new one, too. Or when it's flat and out by Bermuda. The 144 hour GGEM is 2nd only to any hour of the DGEX in delivering crippling, coast wide storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Euro makes wave 1 seperate enough from wave two that we get a long round of weenie snow all day Sunday. Wave 2 is really struggling to amplify due to not catching up with wave 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Mood flakes Sunday afternoon on the Euro. About as different as it can be though with the next system. Pretty similar in the east to the GFS at 114, but much different out west. Low is much weaker coming into BC on the Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danstorm Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Euro's coming in flatter and colder with wave #1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Euro makes wave 1 seperate enough from wave two that we get a long round of weenie snow all day Sunday. Wave 2 is really struggling to amplify due to not catching up with wave 1. Amout re round 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduggs Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Euro looks a little south of the GFS through day 4 with the primary structure over the Lakes. And consequently a little cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Euro makes wave 1 seperate enough from wave two that we get a long round of weenie snow all day Sunday. Wave 2 is really struggling to amplify due to not catching up with wave 1. ugh, Flat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Euro makes wave 1 seperate enough from wave two that we get a long round of weenie snow all day Sunday. Wave 2 is really struggling to amplify due to not catching up with wave 1. Looks to me like it gets going just a bit later, and a lot NE of the GFS to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsnowstorm628 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 LOL at the euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEaster27 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 GFS FTW on the first system? euro is now much weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 First event on the Euro is a pretty good one for SNE...its like a mood 2-4" strung out over 24 hours. Maybe some CF enhancement near Ray at some point. Storm #2 is having trouble deciding which shortwave it wants to use as the dominant one...wave #2 or wave #3 which is trying to catch wave #2 from behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Sneaky cold signal for Monday on the Euro. OES too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 LOL at the euro. Might be going bye bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Sneaky cold signal for Monday on the Euro. OES too? Yeah reasonable signal for some type of scud. By Monday night the Euro has a low pushing out south of the BM. Cold, snowy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Nice euro run today . Matches well with GGEM. Toss the GFS and we now have agreement. Long duration snow event folks. Long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduggs Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Wow, just going back over last nights Euro and it is incredible snowy over the interior through day 7 with another potential major storm right behind. The CMC was also snowy for CNE and probably northern SNE. But the ensemble spread is extremely large. At least there is a duration signal and the ensembles are suggesting roughly a 50% chance of snow for the CP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Flags thrown, weak, warm, progressive, no cold source, suppression.Still waiting for the bombs out too soon occlusion flag to be thrown. LOL, still a fantasy storm but as Ryan so often says not boring. well why do we have to dry hump the extreme solutions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctsnowstorm628 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Nice euro run today . Matches well with GGEM. Toss the GFS and we now have agreement. Long duration snow event folks. Long LOL no it's not the same as the GGEM. not even close. Totally different s/w interaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 This is going to be a bizarre evolution on the Euro. Extremely low predictability with this one haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduggs Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 First event on the Euro is a pretty good one for SNE...its like a mood 2-4" strung out over 24 hours. Maybe some CF enhancement near Ray at some point. Storm #2 is having trouble deciding which shortwave it wants to use as the dominant one...wave #2 or wave #3 which is trying to catch wave #2 from behind. Multiple wave interactions is creating significant inter and intra model discontinuity. Your point is pretty evident on the day 6 Euro 500mb chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha5 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 First event on the Euro is a pretty good one for SNE...its like a mood 2-4" strung out over 24 hours. Maybe some CF enhancement near Ray at some point. Storm #2 is having trouble deciding which shortwave it wants to use as the dominant one...wave #2 or wave #3 which is trying to catch wave #2 from behind. Yeah 1st low never really gets going, just kinda slides OTS once it reaches the LIS area. I guess its better than a bomb over NYC and rain all the way up to VT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I think wave 3 may be the one this run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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