eduggs Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Thank you.... Dan when we refer to a gradient up here it is usually in the context of having an intense gradient over or near us that storms run along, particularly SWFE. Don't buy into the senseless provocation that dude is bringing. I know how the term has come to be used. But it's a poorly defined concept. Used to describe almost anything between a "torch" (another poorly defined term), and an east coast trof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I'm not sure I'd show the pattern by posting d14 surface maps. But it's one heckuva weenie run on the gfs today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericnh Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 boy that was a fun run to watch! hope it continues lots of things to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I know how the term has come to be used. But it's a poorly defined concept. Used to describe almost anything between a "torch" (another poorly defined term), and an east coast trof. No it isn't....those who are using it in that manner are ill informed. What we mean by that is patterns akin to Dec 2007 and 2008....period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 Lets see if Euro also goes colder for the weekend storm with secondary off coast as it senses the block. Ryan and others mentioned that one may very well get squeezed under us next weekend I dont know if you saw the analogs I posted yesterday but to me it appears as that time frame is ripe. The Chris NJ winter time frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericnh Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I'm not sure I'd show the pattern by posting d14 surface maps. But it's one heckuva weenie run on the gfs today! yes it was very eciting i went a little overboard but hey to you blame me? lol :snowing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisM Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 All you can ask at this range is to see some semblance of a wave timed decently on xmas eve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I tried dude I clown around too, but insults in a friggin weather board are dumb. I also think people are way overreacting to this. 2011-2012 is not walking through that door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I know how the term has come to be used. But it's a poorly defined concept. Used to describe almost anything between a "torch" (another poorly defined term), and an east coast trof. not really..take a look at years like 2007-2008 and see what exactly people are talking about. a gradient pattern. This resulted in above normal snowfall for central mass northward...but below normal snowfall further south into the mid-atlantic. I'm not exactly sure what latitude the anomaly switched but I believe it was in southern SNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 yes it was very eciting i went a little overboard but hey to you blame me? lol :snowing: The end of the run featured a textbook on why the Pacific drives the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 not really..take a look at years like 2007-2008 and see what exactly people are talking about. a gradient pattern. This resulted in above normal snowfall for central mass northward...but below normal snowfall further south into the mid-atlantic. I'm not exactly sure what latitude the anomaly switched but I believe it was in southern SNE. 41N was the cutoff. A true Pike north winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Walt Drag just logged off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 I clown around too, but insults in a friggin weather board are dumb. I also think people are way overreacting to this. 2011-2012 is not walking through that door. like I said yesterday and as my youngest granddaughter says, people's are ascared Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 like I said yesterday and as my youngest granddaughter says, people's are ascared A big smiling loving gramps isn't one of the reasons....lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Jesus Christ. It's not one way. Open your eyes. Its one way in the respect that banter, trolling, and nonsense posts are rampant in this forum and that culture has to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 A big smiling loving gramps isn't one of the reasons....lol. lol hey anyone have Wills snow maps from 07/08? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 Its one way in the respect that banter, trolling, and nonsense posts are rampant in this forum and that culture has to stop. yep you should clamp down on the Red tagger who is obsessed with trolling SNE first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 lol hey anyone have Wills snow maps from 07/08? negatory...but if we don't fix the Aleutian ridging...2007-2008 isn't coming through the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 yep you should clamp down on the Red tagger who is obsessed with trolling SNE first it's more about giving kevin a taste of his own medicine than it is about giving you guys crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 negatory...but if we don't fix the Aleutian ridging...2007-2008 isn't coming through the door. except I never said it was I was looking for the maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 except I never said it was I was looking for the maps oh i know lol...just adding to the convo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cary Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 yep you should clamp down on the Red tagger who is obsessed with trolling SNE first Forky is hardly the main problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 GGEM agrees with the GFS with the Tuesday storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 it's more about giving kevin a taste of his own medicine than it is about giving you guys crap. sad behavior for a so called professional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I don't think his posts were meant as provocation, though it does seem to have flustered the board. I simply take exception to you calling him stupid ... he is a very knowledgeable poster and actually made some cogent points... the crux of his argument is that 10+ day forecasting is still a dubious proposition, despite the plethora of tools and indices at our disposal. I didn't call him stupid. I called several of his points stupid...there is a difference. He is coming in here and being provocative, it is pretty easy to tell. His points in my opinion didn't make sense and he was trying to provoke. He basically was trashing a number of people. That is his right I suppose but it doesn't help the board. If you are going to trash people then do it by making some solid points. He should just look in the mirror and take it elsewhere. Last I need to say on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 sad behavior for a so called professional. lol the guy just posts about warmth mainly..bfd. He even posts the progs to back it up. maybe if you guys got together and decided to clean up the nonsense that occurs in this forum we wouldn't have a big problem? None of this would even be an issue if forky were a snow monger...you guys would love him. Because he trolls with warm progs...he's suddenly the devil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 oh i know lol...just adding to the convo I am excited about the upcoming changes to winter conditions just in time for the Christmas season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Dear God light rain 45...........this happens every year, every single year, as soon as snow is in the forecast its serious business in here. Thats why people from all over the country stop by. There is nothing going on, the weather is beyond dismal. wha wha wha wha just have some fun and lighten up, snow on the way pattern change almost complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Understood... and any development of high latitude blocking would shift that gradient (and, more importantly, the storm track) to the south so that we would be on the happier side of things. What is grating about this board is its polarization... the forky/Blizz soap opera, the poster from the NYC forum (who I come in here to get away from) calling for endless torch without any real justification... meanwhile, the good met discussion gets quickly washed away by the tide... I think you may be misinterpreting the banner here, as many non-New Englanders so when they enter this thread. A certain amount of kidding and sarcasm are a part of the culture here and it is different than NY and the MA. Forky throws crap in here all the time...it is funny and it gets thrown back at him. I don't think that is personal or mean at all, it is hard core kidding and it is entertaining at least to me. It is part of the "culture" of this regional forum. What eduggs is doing is something very different. Usually a few come in during each winter season and do the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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