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SW/Central/SE VA Winter 2012-13 Thread


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I hope this happens but it seems overdone for RIC in my opinion. What do you guys think?

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I think that much snow could fall but just won't accumulate to those amounts due to warm temps, timing (during the day), and heavy rain before the changeover. If GFS is right cut that in half or more.

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Winter is over....but in typical fashion, I don't think we'll get very nice weather until April. 

 

I've got to move. Cold weather sucks without snow....and Richmond is the KING of 33 degree rains.

 

Wish we could just stay in the low 70's until June!

 

Rant over

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Winter is over....but in typical fashion, I don't think we'll get very nice weather until April. 

 

I've got to move. Cold weather sucks without snow....and Richmond is the KING of 33 degree rains.

 

Wish we could just stay in the low 70's until June!

 

Rant over

 

Yeah, there is definitely something going on here. Sure, a lot of it has to do with the fact that Richmond is right on the fall line, the location relative to the mountains/ocean, ect. However, the lack of a snowfall greater than 14" (outside of the western suburbs) for 30 years now is concerning. The topic of a changing climo needs to be discussed.

 

It really is funny, if you go back many years and watch videos of old storm forecasts, the same old pattern emerges. Richmond is nearly guaranteed to be in the bullseye approximately 3-4 days out only to have the low pressure slowly trend north. I know this first-hand from tracking storms in 2010 and have video evidence from 96 and 2003.

 

Long story short, it sucks to be a snow weenie in the RVA.

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typical for Richmond.....you can almost set your watch to it.

 

5 days out, RIC is bullseye.

 

Even 4 days out we get crushed. 

 

On day 3, things move north a bit, and by day 2, we're out of it.

 

It happened at least 3 times in 2010.

to further your point, I will repost by timeline of RIC winter storms.

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Only time I can recall us getting the [semi]-jackpot was January 2010. That wasn't a miller-type storm though.

 

Yep...that was a scenario where a strong over running event hit. The system came from the SW and ran into a brutally cold air mass. Ironically, that storm was supposed to crush NC and SE Va, only to trend north. 

 

And in true Va fashion, even DC cashed in on the event when they weren't supposed to see much. And for the next 2 weeks, they saw close to 40 inches of snow.

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Euro still favors the Charlottesville area. Amazing consistency....right or wrong.

RIC would also pick up a few inches, and especially if you are 20-30 miles W or NW.

The consistency of each model has been amazing over the past few days. No model wants to budge from its respective solution.

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Interestingly enough, the western portions of Henrico and Chesterfield counties are right on the 40% HPC probability line for 4" or more.

 

If 4 inches fall there, then metro RIC is going to see 2-3. Goochland courthouse would see 8.....based on the sharp cutoffs depicted on models

 

Maybe my move to east central goochland will pay off?

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HPC is after my heart :weenie:

 

THE 12Z GFS HAS MOVED THE SFC-700 MB LOW
FASTER OFFSHORE AND THIS TREND MAKES THE GFS THE FASTEST SOLUTION
OF THE SUITE OF MODELS/ENSEMBLES.
GIVEN THE BLOCKING PATTERN...A FASTER SOLUTION IS NOT
PREFERRED....WITH THE 06Z GFS/GEFS MEAN CLUSTERING BETTER TIMING
WISE WITH THE 09Z SREF MEAN/12Z UKMET/00Z-12Z ECMWF.

THE CONSENSUS PREFERENCE IS REPRESENTED BY A BLEND OF THE 00Z-12Z
ECMWF/12Z UKMET/12Z CANADIAN GLOBAL.

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HPC is after my heart :weenie:

Lol good to hear they prefer the 3 best models for our area. Should be interesting to see how the banding sets up on radar. I think we will know which solution is right later tonight or early tomorrow morning.

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Lol good to hear they prefer the 3 best models for our area. Should be interesting to see how the banding sets up on radar. I think we will know which solution is right later tonight or early tomorrow morning.

 

 

For once....I would love our forecast to BUST in a good way. We never get surprise snows....aside from that mini band that set up for a few hours in 2010.

 

Even Dec 2010 was mostly a bust for RIC.

 

Here's hoping for a surprise 6 inch snow!

 

Are you guys in our RIC WX Facebook group?

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We might get to have a below normal March though.   Seems some hints that after some moderation we'll get cold again..   Prolong warm days might have to wait till April.

 

One of the models must disagree at least, as my extended forecast is showing a lot of 60's starting to creep in starting after this storm moves out, and again after St. Pat's Day. Even saw a pop of 70 in there somewhere.

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14" is nearly a dream for this area. 

What's more concerning is the elusive official 10" storm.    Last time Richmond broke that mark was Jan 2000 in one storm.   Even in 09/10, despite numerous reports of snow totals higher than that.   The airport failed to reach the 10" mark. 

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