wisconsinwx Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 If yesterday's and today's model trends hold, JB could be heading for another huge bust. His winter forecast could turn into a catastrophe for him if he hopes to keep clients. Actually, that's one of the pieces of solace I get from this bad winter so far; if it continues, JB will continue to be exposed. I used to think HM was bad and JB was relatively good at pinning down systems, but subscribing to his FB page opened my eyes to just how cold and snow biased he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share Posted January 9, 2013 Actually, that's one of the pieces of solace I get from this bad winter so far; if it continues, JB will continue to be exposed. I used to think HM was bad and JB was relatively good at pinning down systems, but subscribing to his FB page opened my eyes to just how cold and snow biased he was. JB has just as much of an agenda as Al Gore. I used to subscribe to him on both accuweather pro and (for a short while) Weatherbull. He used to be good, his three greatest calls being the 2002-2003 winter, the January 2004 severe cold and the big flip to cold in mid January 2007. Ever since he went over to Weatherbull his forecasting skills have worsened considerably, whether it's because he's denying the reality of a warming world (indices which once pointed to severe cold not delivering like they once did) or something else. I now just get his forecasts by twitter, facebook or his weekly free video. He has just tweeted that the second half of winter will more than make up for the first half in the east. I don't know. He's increasingly coming across as a used car salesman. When I was a Weatherbull subscriber, you should have seen some of the comments other subscribers posted. They were hilarious, often wondering where the cold was and even how long Weatherbull was going to survive asa company if the forecasts continued to be so awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 JB has just as much of an agenda as Al Gore. I used to subscribe to him on both accuweather pro and (for a short while) Weatherbull. He used to be good, his three greatest calls being the 2002-2003 winter, the January 2004 severe cold and the big flip to cold in mid January 2007. Ever since he went over to Weatherbull his forecasting skills have worsened considerably, whether it's because he's denying the reality of a warming world (indices which once pointed to severe cold not delivering like they once did) or something else. I now just get his forecasts by twitter, facebook or his weekly free video. He has just tweeted that the second half of winter will more than make up for the first half in the east. I don't know. He's increasingly coming across as a used car salesman. When I was a Weatherbull subscriber, you should have seen some of the comments other subscribers posted. They were hilarious, often wondering where the cold was and even how long Weatherbull was going to survive asa company if the forecasts continued to be so awful. The problem is every other post would be on how AGW proponents were wrong, and trying to prove his thoughts, rather than just predicting the weather objectively. You're right, he's the Al Gore of the conservative side of the climate debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magoos0728 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Remember that cold that was supposed to arrive-the cold that JB predicted 2 weeks ago that was supposed to have a grip on us right about now-that would make all doubters shake in their boots and prove that warming was something made up by the MSM?! Well it didn't arrive....BUT its scheduled to arrive by Inauguration Day spoiling the time for all those liberals who call for warming. Oh they'll learn....wait....hold on...ok so now JB is saying it will come after Inauguration Day? Oh hamburgers. I really love seeing him fall apart at the seams. Its been great this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdrenken Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Remember that cold that was supposed to arrive-the cold that JB predicted 2 weeks ago that was supposed to have a grip on us right about now-that would make all doubters shake in their boots and prove that warming was something made up by the MSM?! Well it didn't arrive....BUT its scheduled to arrive by Inauguration Day spoiling the time for all those liberals who call for warming. Oh they'll learn....wait....hold on...ok so now JB is saying it will come after Inauguration Day? Oh hamburgers. I really love seeing him fall apart at the seams. Its been great this year. He backed off his '85 call and going with '94 now. But hey...be careful because all of the kool-aid drinking fb groups are loving this tweet fest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 No one truly cares about JB constantly failing at his forecasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 No one truly cares about JB constantly failing at his forecasts. He's lost total credit-ability...The last 2 winters has unfortunately ruined a lot of Meteorologists reputation's. It's like watching a de-generate gambler at a casino playing B-jack chasing thousands of dollars that he just lost over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 He's lost total credit-ability...The last 2 winters has unfortunately ruined a lot of Meteorologists reputation's. It's like watch a de-generate gambler at a casino playing B-jack chasing thousands of dollars that he just lost over and over again. JB is a tool bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magoos0728 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 No one truly cares about JB constantly failing at his forecasts. You're right there, no one really cares about his work anymore....its just that in a winter as slow as this one has been...its been a slight bit of joy watching him push big events two weeks further back....over and over again. Also how he's pulled out and dismissed just about every forecast model out there. Its comical really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 Well, it looks like his call for a 1985 or 1994 style arctic outbreak is going to be an epic fail. I can only imagine what kind of comments his subscribers are posting on his blog. Seriously, that company is going to be in trouble if their forecasts continue to be this bad. I'm so glad i don't subscribe to him anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Well, it looks like his call for a 1985 or 1994 style arctic outbreak is going to be an epic fail. I can only imagine what kind of comments his subscribers are posting on his blog. Seriously, that company is going to be in trouble if their forecasts continue to be this bad. I'm so glad i don't subscribe to him anymore. No heros in this one if it fails. Even DT was barking about the HISTORIC cold that he now sees as likely and of course he added that his rising QBO theory will make him look like the rockstar of mets. ...it's funny watching these mets all try to position themselves to be THE ONE that predicted this first. It would almost be worth it not to happen just to humble the crap out of all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 JBs latest name for this upcoming period of weather: Coldmageddon. You can't make this up. Go to the Weatherbull premium site and you can see the first sentence or two of his post without having to subscribe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 JB knows how to play the weenies like a fiddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 JBs latest name for this upcoming period of weather: Coldmageddon. You can't make this up. Go to the Weatherbull premium site and you can see the first sentence or two of his post without having to subscribe. Lol! How original. Doesn't surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Yup, since there is nothing storm wise coming, gotta pimp the cold. Right now, even a 2" clipper like the 12z Euro is showing a week out (sadly) is a storm, at least it lays down the snowcover, barely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdrenken Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 No heros in this one if it fails. Even DT was barking about the HISTORIC cold that he now sees as likely and of course he added that his rising QBO theory will make him look like the rockstar of mets. ...it's funny watching these mets all try to position themselves to be THE ONE that predicted this first. It would almost be worth it not to happen just to humble the crap out of all of them. I can't figure out why all of them wiggle out of what they said. If you are wrong, you are wrong. More credibility will come to you for owning it...as long as excuses aren't made, and we can see with all of them that's a shot in the dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I have no sympathy for JB. He is a bad human being. At the least his ethics are completely jacked up. He has fraudulently mis-represented data. So much so that a person from an organization that JB used a graph and then cut out of blocked out the part where it says SST's. and used it claiming it represented Sea Ice. Posted this on twitter, never recanted even though people all over the climate talk world pointed it out. Not that JB actually needed it to be pointed out. You see folks when you "deliberately" wrongly represent something, especially something grounded in fact like an graph pertaining observable data that has been validated millions of times. You are a scum bag, liar, scam artist, fraud, whatever. JB consciously did that to deter from the big arctic melt out of 2012. It's one thing when you say I do not believe the arctic ice is actually this low. You cross into a whole new territory when you do what he did. I realize that has nothing directly tied to his winter forecasts. But it shows the kind of person he is. JB doesn't work for the NWS. He can't even work at accuweather or the weather channel. He works for WeatherBell. Joe Bastardi work's for weather bell because he is a mercenary loon at this point who probably has at most a couple thousand fan boys who are in love with snow flakes paying for him to tell them what they want to hear. As far as Al Gore. Besides the obvious differences in "care for the public or his fellow Man". Al Gore doesn't run subscriber fee based services to predict wild forecasts that are wrong almost always. Joe Bastardi's AGW stance isn't the point. The point is that he is a snake oil lying swindler POS who plays on peoples emotion's for their $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ The wildly inaccurate global warming stuff just reaffirms the above point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I forgot to add I have sympathy for mets on here and other local blogs, who are not charging sub fee's who run blogs while working local news weather, or guys who take time after their NWS or private company job, or even mets who are retired or work in other fields who give their FREE time. And have so many weenies who do not want to hear it straight and it's hard for these guys to keep it real or not get ran with BUST BUST. Like they control the weather. The Earth's atmosphere, The Sun, everything that goes into this amazing biosphere is in infinite motion towards chaotic change. when a weather model outputs a forecast as 12:00Z, by 12:00:01Z new parameters would be set and it would come out slightly different. I think we need to give these guys a break and be 1000000% happy with their effort and pursuit to better our knowledge of and accuracy of the weather. We have come so far so fast....let's not let our expectation's get out of control because of an emotional need or desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeye Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 lol... good lord friv..... I'm no fan of JB but you practically Sanduskied the man. 10 years ago before he let the national spot light spoil him, he was an interesting, and somewhat humble, guy to read and follow. I think those appearances on Fox and his other bouts with national recognition went to his head and now all he knows is what got him there.... forecasting the extreme. He is a whore of the weather extremes, cold, snow, and hurricanes. If it's not extreme, he doesn't get the attention. He's basically pimped himself out at the expense of his professional reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 14, 2013 Author Share Posted January 14, 2013 Wow. I didn't know JB was so disliked by some! Interesting how he hasn't tweeted anything related to US weather for awhile. He's probably in shock that his outbreak of severe cold into the US isn't going to happen and doesn't know what to say. His one tweet this morning wasa retweet saying "Maybe the US should withdraw from Chicago" given there have been more murders there over the past 6 months than killings in Iraq. I agree with buckeye. He used to be an interesting read, particularly between 2002-2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 In one of his latest tweets/posts, he seems confident Chicago will hit -5F with this potential arctic outbreak. How likely does that seem at this point? If this caliber of cold is still progged within 120 hours, I might totally buy into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 In one of his latest tweets/posts, he seems confident Chicago will hit -5F with this potential arctic outbreak. How likely does that seem at this point? If this caliber of cold is still progged within 120 hours, I might totally buy into it. -5 should be doable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Wow. I didn't know JB was so disliked by some! Interesting how he hasn't tweeted anything related to US weather for awhile. He's probably in shock that his outbreak of severe cold into the US isn't going to happen and doesn't know what to say. His one tweet this morning wasa retweet saying "Maybe the US should withdraw from Chicago" given there have been more murders there over the past 6 months than killings in Iraq. I agree with buckeye. He used to be an interesting read, particularly between 2002-2006. Most people think he's just too extreme on his forecasts, but the climate change crowd HATES him.... Friv being the king of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Most people think he's just too extreme on his forecasts, but the climate change crowd HATES him.... Friv being the king of them. This. Look at brett anderson, basically the opposite of JB....not as much hate for him and he is ridiculously warm biased. Any of these mets with agendas one way or the other....I do not listen to ANYTHING they say. It would be like tuning into the Weather Channel for a detailed forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 JB is over-the-top, but I certainly don't dislike him with a passion like Friv seems to. It's all just part of the culture wars which are shaking the US and, to a lesser extent, Canada. Polarization and extremes when it comes to many different issues, climate change just being one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I dont know if its his passion or yearning for subscribers, but JBs biggest problem is he wants to make EVERY big snowstorm threat and cold snap into an epic one. We are about to be hit with a cold snap featuring much below normal temps at what is already the coldest time of the entire year. Yet because JB had to compare it to one of the greatest arctic-outbreaks of all-time- which it wont live up to- we have some posters belittling this as a little cold snap (even though they dont take anything JB seriously anyway). JB is like the NAM clown map. Like our snowstorm stretch a few years ago here. Detroit was seeing an obscene number of heavy snowstorms, but because none featured the Nam-clown 18"+ totals, people were kinda disappointed rather than looking at it as what it was- a very unusual amount of heavy snow. Same with this cold coming, rather than seeing it as well below normal temps in the dead of winter, JB subscribers will be wondering where their -20 and -30 temps are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I dont know if its his passion or yearning for subscribers, but JBs biggest problem is he wants to make EVERY big snowstorm threat and cold snap into an epic one. We are about to be hit with a cold snap featuring much below normal temps at what is already the coldest time of the entire year. Yet because JB had to compare it to one of the greatest arctic-outbreaks of all-time- which it wont live up to- we have some posters belittling this as a little cold snap (even though they dont take anything JB seriously anyway). JB is like the NAM clown map. Like our snowstorm stretch a few years ago here. Detroit was seeing an obscene number of heavy snowstorms, but because none featured the Nam-clown 18"+ totals, people were kinda disappointed rather than looking at it as what it was- a very unusual amount of heavy snow. Same with this cold coming, rather than seeing it as well below normal temps in the dead of winter, JB subscribers will be wondering where their -20 and -30 temps are. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 lol Im flattered that I made your sig lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siberian Express Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I dont know if its his passion or yearning for subscribers, but JBs biggest problem is he wants to make EVERY big snowstorm threat and cold snap into an epic one. We are about to be hit with a cold snap featuring much below normal temps at what is already the coldest time of the entire year. Yet because JB had to compare it to one of the greatest arctic-outbreaks of all-time- which it wont live up to- we have some posters belittling this as a little cold snap (even though they dont take anything JB seriously anyway). JB is like the NAM clown map. Like our snowstorm stretch a few years ago here. Detroit was seeing an obscene number of heavy snowstorms, but because none featured the Nam-clown 18"+ totals, people were kinda disappointed rather than looking at it as what it was- a very unusual amount of heavy snow. Same with this cold coming, rather than seeing it as well below normal temps in the dead of winter, JB subscribers will be wondering where their -20 and -30 temps are. I love this thread! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 JB just did something that irritates me. He tweeted that the latest gFS run is too cold in calling for NYC to hit 0F three nights in a row. He says, "it's not the ice age". But what gets me is that he has been making it sound like it's the coming of the ice age with his tweets about 1985 and 1994. He always does this, making it sound like a new ice age is coming then backing off and saying something along the lines of, "I never meant to imply it was going to get THAT cold". Thing is, anyone reading his tweets or columns would swear he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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