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Moving Through December - Changing Patterns and Changing Diapers


ChrisM

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LOL, you'll make snow tomorrow.

The weather's gonna do what the weather's gonna do...I was a lot more anxious in early November, but it's not worth getting worked up over.

Gotta have a laugh at these mild ups and wait it out. Got a long way to go with four more months of legit chances to snow.

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"If you want to destroy my sweater

Hold this thread as I walk away (as I walk away)

Watch me unravel, I'll soon be naked

Lying on the floor (lying on the floor)

I've come undone"

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/btv/html/mansfield.php

47 high atop mansfield right now.

Inversion FTW or FTL? Mid 30s all day at the base until it started climbing this evening. More snow melting up top, or better preservation down low where depths are much weaker? Pros and cons, lol.

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We were on the fence on 138, pretty sure mainly rain if I remember correctly. I do remember we got hammered in celebration of the noreaster.

Huge storm period too, Bob, perfect storm in 91, Dec 92 and March 93. Not boring. Dec 92 had great pounding surf and 20 miles away 2 feet of snow. Even GON had snow cover from the ULL at the end.

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Interesting argument about warm and wet vs cold and dry. Is there anyway to find out which works out better? like take the month of December in Boston, look at all the + temp years and get monthly snow totals vs - temp years and their respective totals. If that's possible I'd like to know. Seems like cold would win with higher totals but maybe not.

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I am surprised Kevin has never made snow in his yard, I would think he would have bought a machine so in the very rare times mt tolland is not encrusted with feet of snow at least his yard would be a winter wonderland for himself and the kids. I tried it a few times, its fun making freezing rain, I might have to get an air compressor this year and make the real thing.

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Interesting argument about warm and wet vs cold and dry. Is there anyway to find out which works out better? like take the month of December in Boston, look at all the + temp years and get monthly snow totals vs - temp years and their respective totals. If that's possible I'd like to know. Seems like cold would win with higher totals but maybe not.

Cold wins...but that is because cold is often also wet. Warm is often dry.

But cold and below average precip is worse than warm and above average precip...I'm not sure about specifically December...especially in Boston where its very marginal in that month. But for the whole winter, warm/wet actually beats cold/dry in Boston.

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watch the 00z ECM come in all the way to coast - hell, it came almost half way on the 12z run...

Eh, there's possibly two wave though folks. If that lead one is even that much more potent, it will drag deeper cold in and that icens up the 2nd good and plenty - at least for t time. And if that D7-8 GL bomb bias proves forth again, we're looking like big huge putz's for caving in to drudgery - ha

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Jan '04 sucked. That month can keep its vodka cold...it was dry as hell once that cold set in. The temperatures were pretty incredible to experience that month, but I'd much rather have the snow.

I had 19 inches of snow that month with 4 events in the heart of the cold, was a sweet full on winter second half of the month.
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Some SW CT posters post in the NYC forum, some post here....we don't force people to post in a particular forum if its grey area.

If someone from MArquette MI kept posting their obs in our threads, we'd probably tell them to go to the lakes forum.

Yeah we tend to post in both. I'm at school in upstate NY right now so climatologically, im a lot closer to NNE than I am to NYC. I post in the upstate forum, but i'll also have a look around in here sometimes. When i'm back home in SW CT I'll post in both, but more in the NYC forum.

I remember back on Eastern SW CT had its own thread, this was before sub-forums though, so every region had one.

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Climowise is why they did it and it makes snese. SW Ct does not have the same climate as the rest of SNE..They have a NYC climate..We've discussed that for yrs.

Noone that lives in SW CT considers themselves a part of New England

Really? :lol: Could have fooled me--most of the folks around here consider the area New England....at least in my daily interactions with folks. Sure looks like New England too with the numerous rock walls and early colonial architecture.

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And BTW-SW CT (especially 10 miles inland) gets more snow that a good chunk of SE CT and Southern RI. Should those 2 areas also be removed from New England?

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I know a certain ski resort employee who would take their chances with 200% of normal QPF over a -6F month with 30% QPF.

Every single time we have a "wet" winter relative to normal, we will come out with a lot of snow. You forget that we can still snow a lot in a +4F month.

Of course I'd rather have cold and dry if it's going to be warm and rainy...that's not really an argument. But high moisture anomalies is very good for here in most cases.

Yeah but who cares if you get a foot of snow and ski conditions stink the next day with 45F and slush. It's probably different up there, but I think the ski resorts in the Poconos where I generally hang my hat prefer cold/dry over warm/wet, for the simple reason they lose more snow in the latter pattern. At least in cold/dry they can continually make artificial snow, and conditions will be packed powder under 20 degree sunshine, not 45F with fog and drizzle, with a recent storm's 15" snowpack turning slushy.

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The biggest dead ratter December on the CPC GEFS/GFS analogs for both D8 and D11 is 3.7" in 1988 for BOS. Even 2001 had 5.0". 1970, 2007, and 2008 are on there too...so who knows where we go from here. We simply don't have enough info yet on the pattern to really say much.

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